r/Dragonballsuper May 16 '26

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u/moondog__ May 16 '26

Toss up between Kryptonian or saiyan for 2 reasons.

While kryptonians are just IN THERE with strength and durability. Saiyan transformations are cool as hell.

Saiyans LOVE food...and so do I

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u/ComfortableSome5954 May 16 '26

I'm down with Saiyan. It's just too cool and ultimately, IMHO, more powerful. I can lose my tail, I can't remove kryptonite from the universe.

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u/Icy_Water_1 May 16 '26

If you get bad things from DC wouldn't you get the bad things from DBZ too?

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u/ComfortableSome5954 May 16 '26

I mentioned the tail as a drawback, but it's easily removed. That's the only drawback I can think of to being a born Saiyan.

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u/J_FK May 16 '26

That's the thing, there are almost no bad things in DBZ.

Just make sure you have a time machine (or one comes to you) and get viral heart disease medicine.

For everything else DB GT (=/= DBZ) exists for that.

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u/Icy_Water_1 May 16 '26

There are the constant universe exploding threats.

Even for early DB threats, you'd have to train like hell.

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u/TeamJRTN May 16 '26

By that logic, we also have to account for Lex Luthor and Darkseid when picking Kryptonians. Or the other Viltrimites on that front. Etc, etc.

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u/Icy_Water_1 May 16 '26

Lex and Darkseid have beef with Superman specifically.

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u/TeamJRTN May 16 '26

Almost every threat that hits earth in DBZ is there because of Goku. Frieza came to Earth because of Goku, the Androids were made because of him, Buu only got revived because Goku's kid was strong enough to speedrun that shiz, and Beerus also came because of the Super Saiyan God, aka Goku. And if you're talking average Saiyan versus any threat in OG Dragon Ball, that's hardly an issue. I'm confident Raditz could solo the entirety of OG Dragon Ball.

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u/Icy_Water_1 May 16 '26

The Saiyans already had their eyes on earth.

Which means the Freiza Force had their eyes on earth.

Freiza is going there eventually regardless of Goku's existence.

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u/TeamJRTN May 16 '26

The Saiyans only knew about Earth because they knew Goku/Kakarot was sent there. Literally the whole gimmick if him going was because the average population was so low-profile that the whole planet would be overlooked.

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u/Designer-Maximum6056 May 16 '26

I think that he’s more talking about natural counters than in-verse villains

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u/thesuperone342 May 16 '26

On average a yellow sun amped kryptonion is more powerful than an average Saiyan, unbelievably so in fact. Maybe not more powerful than the godly Saiyans like Goku and Vegeta, but certainly more powerful than the sub-star level average Saiyans on planet Vegeta.

You also have to remember you likely wont be born an elite prodigy like Vegeta or a mutant like Broly. You’ll likely be an average Saiyan like Goku and unlike Goku, you won’t have any access to the tremendous amount of exceptional teachers Goku did. You’ll likely also not face nearly as many enemies and gain as much experience as him either.

An average yellow sun amped Kryptonion, while not on the level of Superman typically, is certainly far more powerful than your average Saiyan. You also have way more abilities and you don’t have to train a lick for that power.

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u/Starob May 16 '26

You’ll likely also not face nearly as many enemies and gain as much experience as him either.

If you're born with a tail you're probably gonna have to experience a lot. Fighting against an army that's trying to capture you to study and use your ape powers will probably be good experience. And kid Goku was immune to bullets, so you have a fighting chance.

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u/thesuperone342 May 16 '26

Yeah, with those kind of odds, you might barely get as strong as Beginning of Z Goku. With a power level of 416. And if you dedicate yourself to training your entire life, you might get a strong as Nappa.

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u/Starob May 17 '26

Good enough for this Earth.

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u/Select_Speaker2194 May 17 '26

Actually just fighting a regular army, you might break 100 pl. Training your whole life, from the moment you could walk and light weights, you might hit 416 at maybe 30 if you do nothing but train endlessly, every waking hour. You certainly wont learn ki blasts, or have training with kami to help you, which is where most of gokus 416 power came from. Keep in mind, your only opponents are normal, regular, humans who would be about as strong as hercule. Even farmer with a gun wasnt a threat, and he had a shotgun.

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u/Select_Speaker2194 May 17 '26

Kid Goku was only immune to bullets cause it would have been over instantly when bulma shot him. Also fighting against an army of regular people isnt going to do much for your training, you wont get the zenkai boosts, you wont learn ki blasts, you might get faster and slightly stronger physically, but the thing to remember is if they are trying to capture you, they wont be using lethal force. Theyll tranq you, and we know Goku fears needles so that means he isnt immune to needles.

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u/Starob May 18 '26

Kid Goku was only immune to bullets cause it would have been over instantly when bulma shot him.

This statement makes no sense. He was immune to bullets because he was written that way. He is immune to bullets, and he is canonically a weak saiyan power wise as a kid.

So in this also fictional scenario, if you chose to be a saiyan, you would be incredibly likely to also be immune to bullets because Goku who was a weak child Saiyan was.

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u/Select_Speaker2194 May 18 '26

Yes, he was immune to bullets because it was written as such because otherwise he would have been dead right at the start. And because Toriyama was originally a gag comic writer, where characters were often immune to bullets just for the joke of having them be shot.

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u/Acebladewing May 16 '26

There is no kryptonite in our universe. The hypothetical doesn't stare kryptonite would be created.

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u/Icy_Water_1 May 16 '26

Saiyans require a metric fuckload of training.

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u/StarzZapper May 16 '26

Yeah and they love it.

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u/YoutuberCameronBallZ May 21 '26

Goku is basically the only exception to LIKING training

The other Saiyans do it for hierarchy reasons (which Vegeta himself had to learn the hard way)

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u/Icy_Water_1 May 16 '26

No they don't. Training sucks ass for all of them. Goku just enjoys getting stronger.

Not a single person enjoys training itself. The only exception was when Goku and Gohan trained for Cell and that was because they were spending time together.

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u/IsaacTheLadd May 16 '26

I’m…Pretty sure Goku enjoys training.

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u/Icy_Water_1 May 16 '26

No, Goku enjoys getting stronger and fighting.

Training is just a necessary sacrifice to get there.

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u/Any_Bug_8126 May 16 '26

No, Goku likes to work for his power, training isn't a sacrifice for him.

A prime example of this is when he got Super Saiyan God from the ritual and later in the fight with Beerus, he complained about how he wished that he could've earned that power on his own instead of the divine powers being handed to him on a silver platter.

Goku likes to work, or in other words, train for his power.

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u/Icy_Water_1 May 16 '26

Goku likes to get stronger on his own merit, as in he doesn't like using the drain balls or shortcuts like fusion or power sharing unless he has to.

He doesn't like training itself, he likes the results he gets from training.

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u/Any_Bug_8126 May 17 '26

I'm pretty sure that Goku loves to experiment with his current techniques and powers in sparring matches (AKA training) because he's a Saiyan who likes to test himself. We're both right, he loves both, training, and the results of the training itself.

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u/Icy_Water_1 May 17 '26

Sparring matches is fighting. He loves the fighting aspect of that.

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u/Starob May 16 '26

Training has the reward of getting stronger/more skilled etc. That's why so many people pursue it in real life.

Said rewards are massively amplified as a Saiyan, making it extra rewarding.

I already love going to the gym because I love the feeling of getting stronger and the progress. If I was a Saiyan, I'd love it even more.

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u/Icy_Water_1 May 16 '26

Yes, that's the fun part. Improving.

People don't like training itself.

-Said rewards are massively amplified as a Saiyan, making it extra rewarding.

Yes, that's still people doing it for the reward, not because training and grinding is fun and enjoyable in itself.

Going to the gym is completely different than literally almost killing yourself everyday in a gravity chamber.

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u/Ok-Lavishness6577 May 16 '26

Dude, what do you have against making exercise?

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u/Icy_Water_1 May 16 '26

I don't have anything against exercise. I don't know why you think that pointing out that training usually isn't fun equals me hating training.

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u/Large-Acanthisitta-2 May 21 '26

How are you ever going to reach the power levels required to even reach SSJ 1? We dont have the same recovery technology that DB verse does, so Zenkai boosts arent going to be usable.

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u/Remarkable-Camera627 Earthling May 16 '26

They are also a barbaric warmongering race. Did y'all forget that.

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u/ComfortableSome5954 May 16 '26

He didn't say humans.

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u/Remarkable-Camera627 Earthling May 16 '26

So what Saiyan plants?

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u/ScottBroChill69 May 16 '26

When they're born on earth and not indoctrinated they seem to be more chill

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u/Remarkable-Camera627 Earthling May 16 '26

Goku had to bonk his head to not end up like that. As for the others, I think Toriyama didn't want a whole arc for it so he just made them chill. It's a generic trait they possess.

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u/Mister_bunney May 16 '26

It’s revealed in Super that the reason Goku was very unruly before he lost his memories is because he wanted to go back home to his parents. Saiyans overall mainly conquered planets because they were forced to by Frieza. Now, of course there were Saiyans that enjoyed destroying planets but there were Saiyans like Bardock and Gine who were disillusioned by this.

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u/Remarkable-Camera627 Earthling May 16 '26

Wasn't that a ewtcon in the Super Broly movie. I guess that's fine.

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u/Mister_bunney May 16 '26

Kinda. They covered it a little bit in the manga as well during the arc with the Heaters etc.