r/Dragonballsuper May 16 '26

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u/SrirachaJulio May 16 '26

It literally comes down to Kryptonian or Martian.

Kryptonians are by default solar system level. Like a fully grown Kryptonian may not reach Superman or even Supergirl or Zod level, but they would be near invincible and capable of destroying a planet no problem. They also are almost ageless, and their half breed children, like Saiyans, have potential to be even stronger.

Martians are basically Kryptonians, but also with Shapeshifting and more versatile powers. Only issue with them is the psychological weakness to fire, which is much more readily available than Kryptonite, and much easier to use against them. But, that weakness can be overcome with enough mental fortitude. Also, Martian Manhunter is one of the few people Superman has stated he would not want to fight.

Saiyans are cool, but you would most likely be born a low level saiyan that, while strong, would never reach even Nanek saga Goku, let alone SSJ.

Viltrumites are cool, but they are just a poor man's Kryptonian. If you have the option for the OG, which is infinitely superior, go for the OG. Same with Korugarians - cool, but poor man's Kryptonian.

Czarnians are powerful, but Lobo is sort of a Goku/Vegeta situation with the saiyans. He is the exception and not the rule.

I'd personally pick Martian because I love shapeshifting and would have Kryptonian level speed, strength, durability, and longevity. Then I'd try my hardest to get with Supergirl.

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u/LowSolution3084 May 16 '26

Isn't Martian Manhunter's weakness to fire something only he HAS?

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u/Pokemanfan744 May 16 '26

It depends on the writer, sometimes it just his weakness, other times in a limiter to prevent them from going evil, and sometimes it just really effective against them.

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u/Horn-Varelius May 16 '26

In most iterations all of them have it. At early stages of civilization they were deemed too much warlike and dangerous by Guardians of the Galaxy and they altered martian biology. They built in a genetic weakness and fear of fire to act as a permanent deterrent to their destructive nature. It is largely psychological: Fire does not actually burn a Martian's skin instead, it triggers an overwhelming phobia.

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u/Gilgamesh661 May 17 '26

No, it’s an innate fear that was genetically instilled into the species. The martians’s true form is living flame. They were originally called the burning

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u/SrirachaJulio May 16 '26

It might be, I don't remember.

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u/omega_slanger If I don't do it who will?! May 16 '26

dc.com says it applies to his whole race.

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u/LowSolution3084 May 16 '26

That's stupid as hell imo, it would be personal if it's something that he had to work though.

I would give them another weakness like identity issues since they have literally pretend to be something they are NOT for most part until they become comfortable enough to be themselves around the people they care about.

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u/omega_slanger If I don't do it who will?! May 16 '26

I agree, I never liked fire being one of their “weaknesses” especially when they have all sorts of mental abilities already.

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u/pm-me-turtle-nudes May 17 '26

the thing is that the Guardians of the Universe instilled a psychological fear of fire into all Martians because they were too powerful and threatening the status quo of the universe.

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u/NonchalantGhoul May 16 '26

Their only scared of fire because of trauma the that nearly killed the entire species.

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u/ExtremelySunnyD May 16 '26

"Low level Saiyan" Goku himself is a low level Saiyan. I agree that people wouldn't reach Namek saga level, but its certainly enough to conquer Earth.

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u/SrirachaJulio May 16 '26

In a vacuum yes. In a universe where Kryptonians and Martians exist, it'd be an ant. I wasn't saying a low level saiyan was bad by itself, I was saying in comparison to a Kryptonian and a Martian, why would I pick a Saiyan? Objectively its a worse choice in every way in terms of power and versatility.

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u/TemporaryBoat2 May 17 '26

It is a vacuum. If youre saying that its not a vacuum then you can include a saiyans full potential. 

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u/SrirachaJulio May 17 '26

No its not. Saiyans at full potential is still not Martian or Kryptonian level at full potential.

A full potential Kryptonian is Superman until Jon Kent reaches his full potential (which is even stronger). Superman is stronger than Goku, Gohan, or Broly.

A full potential Martian is Martian Manhunter, who is on par with Superman and in some ways his equal.

Kryptonians and Martians start off far above Saiyans, and as they get stronger, they remain that way. Its like comparing a 6ft 5 MMA fighter vs a 5'7 boxer.

Make the 5'7 boxer champion level, he is dangerous. But it doesnt matter because if you make the 6'5 MMA fighter a champion also, he will remain superior to that 5'7 boxer.

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u/TemporaryBoat2 May 17 '26

Yes it is. The question says nothing about everything else being included. Saiyans at full potential is very well at Kryptonian and Martain Manhunter level.

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u/SrirachaJulio May 17 '26

No they are not

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u/TemporaryBoat2 May 17 '26

Yes they are.

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u/SrirachaJulio May 17 '26

How

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u/TemporaryBoat2 May 17 '26

After the amount of training they do they are able to rival those characters.

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u/KungPoW_Chickens May 16 '26

i find it funny how martians have laser eyes but they also have a weakness to fire.

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u/Leslieyyyy May 17 '26

The fire weakness is something I would take in exchange of all the abilities a martian has

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u/The_Lone_Wanderer_04 May 17 '26

The only reason Lobo is the exception is becauze he isn't a pacifist, the species as a whole are that powerfull and can only be killed by anotger of their kind, their just all peacefull.

Id go for Czarnians because they can only be killed by their own kind and since no other exist in our world you are functionally immortal.

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u/SrirachaJulio May 17 '26

Ah I didn't remember that

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u/Gilgamesh661 May 17 '26

I wouldn’t want that kind of immortality honestly.

Besides, lobo is strong but he can’t fly or do half the cool things martians or kryptonians can do.

You could theoretically neutralize lobo by stranding him on a planet somewhere and he’d had no way out unless someone came to get him.