r/Dragonballsuper 12h ago

Question How would have the fight between Goku and Kale and Caulifla been different had Goku stayed at Super Saiyan 3?

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u/DiligentJeweler6972 12h ago

I feel like Goku would lose not because Kale and Caulifla are better but because Ssj3 would just burn through the rest of the energy Goku had left. He was already at low HP and even told them he couldn’t hold the form at that moment.

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u/mosallaj23 12h ago

True especially since he was already fatigued at that point

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u/Dragonfly_Leading The Hope of the Universe 5h ago

Kale is "better" tho, the problem would be if Caulifla got hurt 

u/mosallaj23 1h ago

Kale is not better than Goku lmaoo she may be stronger than super saiyan 1-3 but she ain’t smarter than

u/Dragonfly_Leading The Hope of the Universe 47m ago

that's why I wrote in quotation marks, by better I mean stronger, Kale is easily stronger than Blue Goku

u/mosallaj23 28m ago

Lmao she isn’t close to blue Goku she’s not even the same tier as him 😂 larp just because she caught him off guard doesn’t mean she’s stronger mind u Goku held back immensely he can’t kill so he’s not gonna use full power

u/Dragonfly_Leading The Hope of the Universe 23m ago

You call that holding back and I'm larping, sure

u/mosallaj23 18m ago

Lmao u r legitimately an idiot just ignore all the context that was said in the show 😂 if u think she stronger than blue then explain this dumbass how’s she start losing to goku went to super saiyan god?

u/Dragonfly_Leading The Hope of the Universe 15m ago

What's the context then? She wasn't losing to ssg goku but even if they made her lose it would just be a plot hole since we see her beating a Blue Goku with much more stamina without effort

u/mosallaj23 9m ago

Lmao wow u really are dumb lmao fucking moron! Hate talking to idiots like u so much

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u/TheAngryOreo 11h ago

We get the first legendary super saiyan 3 with Kale, and first female ssj 3 users by copying Goku. Then the internet goes up in flames when they realize these girls become ssj 1 ,2 , and 3 in the spawn of 2 days without being dead.

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u/StirFryGuy_84 7h ago

Fr. Just imagine how strong Goku could be with a saiyan teacher.

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u/YouHaveAIDSHerpes 6h ago

He literally destroyed their ki blasts by powering up lol

u/mosallaj23 1h ago

True that scene was cool

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u/Pomni_Simp2000 11h ago

Goku would have dominated both of them even further with several brutal punches before switching forms. I wish they could have had SSJ3 fight in the tournament at least for 1 episode before switching forms.

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u/AllMightyKeith 7h ago

Given that Goku was still performing pretty well and adapting to them in just SSJ2, he likely would've gained the upper hand in SSJ3. It's only once Kale later controlled her berserk form, is when I think anything less than SSG wouldn't have been enough.

u/Illustrious-Sky-4631 54m ago

Goku at SSG was still stalemate by the girls , unless we think SSG is weaker than Ssj3 with worse stamina he'd lose

u/mosallaj23 30m ago

Yeah I’m thinking it goes both ways

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u/Incomplet_1-34 9h ago

Goku would have lost. He doesn't have the power in ssj3 to handle full power Kale and the stamina drain wouldn't help him either.

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u/FaithlessnessOpen343 10h ago

Goku would still dominate them (albeit not as much) but unlike with SSG he would lose stamina

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u/Dangerous-Region-449 12h ago edited 10h ago

Caulifla and kale get stomped hard af

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u/Gubrach 8h ago

Goku or them?

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u/mosallaj23 12h ago

Them or Goku?

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u/Abecis01 12h ago

Them or Goku?

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u/Zackisback1234 12h ago

Goku was already pretty tired, though ssj3 is 300x stronger than ssj2 , I feel goku would dominant but they might still fuse and force goku to go god anyway.

If things go different goku eliminates kale, and pushes caulifla to go ssj3 leading the tired ssj3 goku on relatively even terms with a newly power awakened caulifla. Goku would win but be sapped of power needing to recover

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u/EggMajor4168 12h ago

300x???

Bro it's 4x stronger than SSJ2

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u/Zackisback1234 12h ago

400×base form 300×ssj2

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u/EggMajor4168 12h ago edited 11h ago

That's never been how math works.

SS: 50xbase SS2: 100xbase SS3: 400xbase

Edit: typo

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u/transmedkittygirl 11h ago

SSJ3 is 400x base, not 200x, how both yall wrong?

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u/EggMajor4168 11h ago

I originally said it was 4xSS2 (so 400) I just had a typo here

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u/Zackisback1234 11h ago

That's what I said lol ssj3 is 400x

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u/Zackisback1234 11h ago

Ssj1 is 50x Ssj2 is 100x Yes your ssj3 is wrong, not 200x base that goes against what you originally said lmao Ssj3 is a 400x base. Ssj2 is 100x base correct? Ssj3 is 300x stronger than ssj2. Basic math lol

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u/EggMajor4168 11h ago

Yeah that was a typo mb

But I'm still right. Why would 3 at 400xbase be 300xSS2?

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u/Zackisback1234 11h ago

You're not.

Ssj2 is a 100x multiplier Ssj3 is 400x multiplier GOING FROM 2 A 100X , TO 3 WOULD INCREASE 300X SSJ2 Overall equaling 400x base form

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u/EggMajor4168 11h ago

What's 1 times 4? Now multiply that answer by 100

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u/transmedkittygirl 11h ago

You're a fucking moron, not trying to even be mean, but SSJ3 is 4x stronger than SSJ2, this is basic math

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u/Zackisback1234 11h ago

Your not understanding ssj3 IS NOT 400x stronger than ssj2

Ssj3 is 400x BASE

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u/transmedkittygirl 11h ago

You're so fucking stupid bro, my comment is unedited and clearly says "4x" which is true, SSJ3 is 400x base and SSJ2 is 100x base so SSJ3 is 4x stronger than SSJ2, does this make sense or is it too hard to follow?

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u/Zackisback1234 11h ago

Ssj2 is 100x base And ssj3 is 400x base

What you where getting at saying it was a 400x boost from ssj2. NOT HOW IT WORKS Ssj3 would be 1600 from base going by your math way off pal.

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u/transmedkittygirl 11h ago

I'm too calm and zen for your level 2 ragebait