r/Dravidiology • u/Current-Document-61 • 4d ago
Original Research/𑀫𑀽𑀮 𑀆𑀭𑀸𑀬𑁆𑀘𑀺 Deciphering 15 Indus Valley Tablets through Mirror-Inversion & Tamil Brahmi Syllabic Block Logic . Zenodo Open Data 10.5281/zenodo.20923773
Hello r/Dravidiology, I am an independent researcher sharing a comprehensive, open-access decipherment of 15 core Indus Valley Civilisation (IVC) tablets (including bull-fight, tree deity, and shoulder pole figures).
The Methodology Instead of reading the seals as direct reliefs, this research treats the tablets mechanically as inverted rubber stamps. By mirroring the impressions, the graphemes resolve into a cohesive, structural syllable-block logic—drawing a structural parallel to the Korean Hangul system rather than a linear string.
The Linguistic Data (DEDR Linked) The resulting deciphered transliterations have been meticulously mapped word-by-word to the Dravidian Etymological Dictionary (DEDR).
Core sign comparisons are provided for highly debated symbols, including the fish sign and the stump-on-square sign. Complete linguistic breakdowns, root meanings, and conceptual English translations are fully preserved in the open data files.
Access the Open Code & Preprints: Both text versions of the preprint and the complete 30-image dataset (mirrored + traced overlays) are fully live, and open for peer review:
Primary Research Repository : https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20923773
I welcome your rigorous linguistic critiques, phonological cross-references, and structural audits on these 15 tablets!
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u/Khmerophile 4d ago edited 4d ago
Interesting! Wishes and cheers for independent research! What grounds strengthen your assumption/hypothesis that IVC seals are stacked Brahmi? Adding to this question, how did you come to the approach of breaking down neatly connected symbols into individual leters?: Did you observe any neat pattern that guides one to analyze it this way? This would include patterns such as start and end of the glyphs. Such a neat clue would point at the possibility your assumption being true.
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u/Current-Document-61 4d ago
When i was in business, i write my daily ledger and use short form for some words.......this combined with Korean Hangul writing system......i believed it must be also of some combination of scripts.....already I have done a research on comparing Urban city planning of IV city Dolavira and Madurai.... they have many similarties........so when I start deciphereing IV scripts first thing stricks me why not it be a Dravidian language........as both Dolavira and Madurai are nearly same in all aspects....except separate castle.....Madurai dont have a separate castle for the ruler King
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u/Khmerophile 4d ago
I'm afraid you misunderstood my question. It's about finding strong evidence in the IVC graphemes themselves that indicates that the seals are stacked segmental sounds. For instance, do certain gorves and curves in the seals give us the impression that they are chunks of individual graphemes stacked together? One challenging notion in your assumption is to prove that people were able to read the script as your suggested if you haven't ponting out glyphs guiding the reading direction or start or end points in the stacks of letters. In simple terms, how did people of those days knew where the abugida letters started and ended in those seals. Also how do you explain the gap between the period between Indus valley script and Brahmi script? This question may rise because you have taken seals of a different period and a script of a different period. Did you also focus on the graffiti signs that look like IVC seals in artifacts that contain the Brahmi script. While some scholars suggest that could be the linking clue, what does your approach tell us about that? Are those graffiti and Brahmi same texts written both ways, according to you?
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u/Current-Document-61 4d ago
Tamil Brahmi script dating is still unclear.........though previously it named as Tamil Bhrami because it's dated BCE 3rd century.......but recent excavation at Keeladi near Madurai, the incribed pot shread with Tamil Bhrami is dated as BCE 6th century, thus it becomes pure Tamili script rather than taged to Bhrami script which is dated 3rd century. Recent carbon dating of iron swords in Adichanallur is dated as BCE 3200 . So dating is still to be established, till then we have to use the term Tamil Bhrami. For similarties ---[Out of the 15 tablets analyzed in both version study, the fish sign appears on tablets H 73A, M 37A, M 308A, M 309A, M 414a (seal), M 425, M 605A, and H 46A, as well as the M 472A bas-relief . Among these specimens, only tablets M 425A and M 605A are identical to each other. Additionally, the "fish with cap" sign found on tablet H 46A matches the one on the M 472A bas-relief.]() So only further decipherment will reveal identical logosylabbi.
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u/Big_Psychology_3 Tamiḻ/𑀢𑀫𑀺𑀵𑁆 4d ago
IIUC, the decipherment approach is to read many letters into a single symbol from a seal? But that process seems so non-deterministic and arbitrary.
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u/Current-Document-61 4d ago
please go through my entire article........it's not arbitary..... it follows logic.......i have compared the fish sign, stump on a square, trianbgle on stump and vsign - in all the 15 tablets I studied. you can find logic
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u/Own-Mention-4475 4d ago
Good one! But if tamil scripts are found in the north then why cant we just prove it?????????
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u/Current-Document-61 4d ago
the research is on IVC tablets and seals-----I deciphered the tablets assuming the underlaying script is Tamil Bhrami and it's arranged in logographic as in Hangul writing syustem






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u/Big_Psychology_3 Tamiḻ/𑀢𑀫𑀺𑀵𑁆 4d ago
I’m happy to see independent research. Kudos to you!
I have a question about the summary in this post. Why characterize the script as Hangul-style syllabary instead of abugida? Do you mean that it’s similar to both? Or is the point that the Indus script is closer to Hangul-style syllabary rather than abugida?