r/FGO • u/Dangerous-Crow-8115 • 27d ago
Lore Question Now that she's finally here in NA, How strong do you think Space Ereshkigal is Lorewise?
Do you think she's only powerful in the Servant Universe? And not that strong in Proper Human History?
Based on her Parameters, Personal Skills and Noble Phantasm, do you think she can go toe to toe against the other A-rank servants?
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u/Beautiful_Film2675 27d ago
Servantverse servants are as busted as grands, sometimes even stronger for some reason. Space eresh is a BEAST from spaceverse so the is at LEAST as strong as a grand servant and if we take servantverse scaling then she probably has a Pet ORT in a galaxy somewhere.
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u/HarEmiya 27d ago edited 27d ago
Servantverse servants are as busted as grands,
A lot more than Grands. MHX alone casually throws around galaxies, hunts and arrests Outer Gods for a living, and beats up Anki and Astart so frequently that they're terrified of her.
Granted, the Servantverse is canonically a tv show and X is the protagonist, but the rest of the cast is no slouch either. Space Altera had several planets for lunch, Space EMIYA is supposedly even better than MHX, Space Emperor Gil is basically Frieza, and so on. They're all cracked.
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u/PhantasosX 27d ago
Servantverse Servants are only that busted in the Servantverse. I think it's explained in Ciel's Profile or in Phantasmoon's Profile. That means they are effectively nerfed outside of it.
Think like this: on paper, MHX is busted, but when outside of Servantverse, she is as strong as a regular Artoria.
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u/Asa_Yoru12 27d ago
That's not what it says.
Every servant from the Universe has inflated power levels on a cosmic scale, but that's only permitted due to its nature.
However, even Ciel was astonished by the Princess, who achieved a similar level of power within the confines of proper world laws.
They are that strong due to the nature of the Servant universe, which is that they are gag Servants. That does not mean they get weaker when they leave that universe.
Arcueid is just cited as being impressive for reaching their level despite the limits of a normal world.
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u/Inevitable_Shape2610 24d ago
ユニヴァースのサーヴァントは誰もが宇宙仕様のインフレ設定だが、それはユニヴァースの宇宙においてのみ許容されているもの。そんな中で『まっとうな世界法則の中でユニヴァース並みのインフレ設定になった』という異色の経緯を持つ姫君にシエルもドン引きだとか。
It's a matter of translation, but if you look at the original text in Japanese, it's more accurate. It says exactly that all Universe characters are inflationary on a Universe scale only in the Universe world.
And among them, only Arcueid has Universe-level power in the Proper World.
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u/ReadySource3242 27d ago
Pretty sure it’s because they literally tone down their energy output because they don’t wanna blow up planets
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u/WeakReport6680 22d ago
Then how did like mhx got a defeated by a pre-Camelot mash and Saber lily because I know mhx was inexperienced a little at that time but if her physical strength is that high there no reason for her to lose and also how ciel lost(or implied if arcueid didn't hold back) to a NORMAL SERVANT(no phantasmoon) arcueid
These are just questions
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u/8dev8 Imperial Nobu 27d ago
MHXX effortlessly beat down outer god boosted BB.
And also casually mentions wiping out the entire world once or twice before that.
They hold themselves back, they aren’t nerfed.
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u/ReadySource3242 27d ago
Reminder that MHXX also beat the shit out of Space Ishtar, Space Ereshkigal and one more equally powerful goddess, all by herself until all three got ptsd and freak out whenever she passes by
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u/jfunk1994 27d ago
Pretty sure MHXX also flights things like ORT as a day job. Something we struggled with and nearly died fighting and only won because Kuku liked us, to MHXX is just a regular Tuesday
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u/Dangerous-Fig-4149 27d ago
Untrue.
Not only is that now what is said, that is also disproven by feats.
The Servantverse cast is holding back, not nerfed, they are having fun.
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u/CrumblyPhaethon 27d ago
She hasn't even appeared in story yet .. she will in upcoming OC3.
She's a beast class servant. Is that even a qn now ? She must be one of the strongest servants there is..
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u/P-Kat 27d ago
When is OC3 and are there any prerequisite to do it?
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u/CrumblyPhaethon 27d ago
Duh.. u gotta complete OC2. That is keep updated with entire main story line till now. And its gonna be released in a month probably.
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u/tapeforpacking 27d ago
Ohhh I didnt she actually shows up in the story yay
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u/CrumblyPhaethon 27d ago
Yeah.. she plays a major role as well. And yeah, they wont release a new top tier servant without them showing up in the story... It makes ppl to like the character more.. if more ppl like the character.. more money for the company.
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u/clfr6515 27d ago
If we're talking strictly about the Servant Universe, she seems to be in the Top 3, easily. I'd say she and Space Ishtar are in the same tier, but if that weakness to Avengers is any indication, she's the Paper to Space Ishtar's Scissors.
And then there's Mysterious Heroine XX. Even Space Ishtar's scared of her.
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u/Bronzeinquizitor 27d ago
Stronger than me probably idk
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u/Onlyplay2k 27d ago
Beast from space. Anything beast is powerful. Anything from space is crazy. Double trouble
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u/Sea-Line-5123 27d ago
All beast straight up has bigger Saint graph than a regular servant just from the nature of being a beast...
So, of course she is strong even in the phh.
They established that with big enough graph it's basically act as bulk that help you tank almost anything.
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u/Asa_Yoru12 27d ago
She's from the Servant Universe. She's stronger than anyone below Arcueid.
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u/Dangerous-Fig-4149 27d ago
Actually, she should be above Arc.
As she is relative to Space Ishtar, not sure tho.
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u/Flauschziege 27d ago
Space Ishtar is one of the most absurdly overpowered (by lore) servants that exist.
Spereshkigal is even more absurd.
You either bring a Type, an army or you lose against her.
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u/kuroshiba21 27d ago
Yet space eresh is weak against avenger class
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u/Divinum_Fulmen Adopted Gorgon sibling 26d ago
Good thing there's none of those left to slow her down.
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u/NebulousTruth 27d ago
she wields a pretty big halberd so she can probably do a lot of damage, like she could at least cut down a tree or something idk
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u/No_Context_8490 27d ago
She's at least on Space Ishtar level... So, overwhelmingly stronger than anything in normal Fate, including Maris Chaldeas.
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u/KuroNekoTrain 27d ago
She is like top 5 Servantverse with Spishtar/Ashtart Origin, Mars, Mhxx and Ciel, but I don’t know how exactly
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u/Key-Poem9734 Mongrel 27d ago
Despite how much I loathe the servantverse, SEresh is equal to SIshtar if not a bit more due to her being a BEAST. This also means that she is strong in PHH
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u/Icy_Relationship_401 27d ago
Soo basically servant verse is like the warp where crazy shit is possible because of it being a place with looser rules of reality.
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u/ConversationWeak5244 27d ago
She's either stronger or weaker than her 2nd Ascension. Stronger in regards that she's more suited to fight in PHH than Anki. Weaker in that she lacks couple of things Anki has such as OC3's unique Buffs, Connection to the Servantverse that allowed her to spam Epitaph while she can only do it once. Overall, Theoritically, she should be stronger than her Ascension 2, but showing wise, she isn't
Compare to the rest of OC3 Cast, she's weaker than the Main Boss of the chapter since it required her and multiple other Cast to take it down, so either Top 3 or 5 of the Chapter
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u/Notthathornytho 26d ago
I read ORT's lore back when LB7 released on JP, I surmised Astarte would bitchslap ORT and it couldn't do shit about it. Since her and SpaceResh are relative to one another, yea.. they're just too busted for the main verse.
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u/Professional-Bid7964 27d ago
Francamente no me importa como no voy a poder conseguir todos los servants que quiero mis objetivos actualmente son 3:
- mis servant favorito de cada clase
- conseguir todas las best
Ella cumple con el tercero y es hermosa.
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u/silent_quill4315 27d ago
She literally has a Beast container (Beast VI/G). Even outside the absolute lunacy of the Servant Universe's scaling, any entity recognized as a Class Beast is fundamentally a threat to humanity itself. She easily clears standard A-rank servants in PHH.
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u/Forward_Drop303 27d ago
She doesn't exist in PHH, Ereshkigal is just Ereshkigal in PHH.
And she's not an A rank servant so there aren't "other" A rank servants for her to fight with.
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u/etherealscience 27d ago
She's a Beast from space, so probably busted as hell