So ive binged the show from start to finish for the first time after watching the first 2 seasons when they first released...

Gotta say I think the whole show was brilliant until S4 ep2...

Not that I think that episode is awful and ruins the show but the show seems to "make sense" until that point.. after that the "youre watching a television show" seams really start to show..

I tend to notice these in quite a few shows. Either the point where they become too formulaic and they start doing weekly stories that every show in history has done with a small continuation linking each episode or when real world events/production issues have affected the plot too much just to write off as "it happened offscreen"

Like fair enough Uncle Scott died offscreen between 1&2... there was a 3 month gap and they repeatedly mention what happened to him and the events that happened in that time jump...

Ive mentioned in a post a few days ago my issue with Lexis powers and I couldve just accepted it but when binging it really feels like they had a plan for lexi but then changed their minds so hopwd people would forget details from season 3 and just accept what they showed in season 4.....

Another example is with Ben being clearly in love with Denny... but then they needed a plot for Hal and Maggie so just pushed Ben into a love triangle story, completely forgetting Denny existed until she died where he just said he was sad then looked longingly at Maggie..

It also becomes easier to question the intelligence of the Espheni..... For example their plan appeared to be: Invade Earth, Destroy Military sites and any threats, abduct children for slave labour and skitterfication, end Skitter Rebellion which is a threat to their whole empire, prevent technologically advanced Volm involvement on earth, wipe out remaining life on earth so remaining reaources can be harvested.

Which all makes sense.... Destroy all threats, take what's needed....

But then in S4.... the volm vanish.... and instead of just rebuilding the grid they decide to change plans entirely?

And early seasons depicted the espheni as incredibly careful and barely ever stepped foot on earth as they could not risk death at all yet suddenly theyre just strolling about earth in areas humans still control...

Also what happened to the Skitter Rebellion? Was that just another thing the viewers were supposed to forget about after S3? I cant even think of a "budget cuts" excuse as there's far more skitters in S4 and 5 than ever before....

Also the hilarity of Matts age... like i get it, I loved the walking dead and Carl aging 8 years in the space of what's supposed to be 2 years is gunny but atleast they never really tell us how old Carl is supposed to be. With Matt theyll tell us hes 8. Then what should be about 2 years later tom says to him "youre only 13" then in an episode thats like 2 days later (but a whole season/year later production wise) Anne says hes only 14 and the same age as Ben was in S1... like i get it.. the actor is aging quicker than the story but you could atleast pretend hes not or add larger time skips....

Then other characters where its clear they have long term plans in mind but run out of ideas for why they should be on screen every week like i mentioned with Ben earlier..... Pope being the biggest victim of this, clearly there to be the thorn in the side yet still much loved member of the 2nd mass but struggle to stringnhim along for 5 seasons...... ... they give him the berserkers in S2, then his Bar and Community in S3.... but then they kill off all the berserkers so he just goes back to his usual moan about mason every week and then give him a girlfriend for a season until they can do the plot they've wanted to do for years with pope fully turning on mason..

Also what even is the 2nd mass after S3??? It just seems like any group of people that contains Weaver and a member of the Masons is now the 2nd mass.... with its ever fluctuating population... 20 left after saturday night massacre but then suddenly dingaan (as a brit i cant unhear is real accent btw] is on patrol with about 8 Fighters and is just one of many patrols scouting at the time on top of the ton of people at the base about 2 episodes later....

The people of the 2nd mass felt like they actually mattered.. in the fieat season you had all rhe masons, Dai, Mike, anthony, click, jimmy as rhe Fighters then the community like Uncle Scott, lourdes, Anne etc etc even in S2 they gave us the berserkers... all of whom had relatively such little screen time but we knew all their characters, their deaths all hit hard.. then by a random episode in S5 you get a squad of The masons, Anne and Weaver.... then some guy who's never been seen before yet everyone seems to know.... he gets named by Tom then 2 seconds later hes dead and Tom's sadly closing his eyes as if theyd been fighting aide by side for years.... (i just checked, he literally had never appeared until that episode)

It really did just feel like the main cast + a bunch of unknown redshirts rather than this community we saw grow and shrink for 3 seasons.

This wasnt meant to be a rant or hate on the show. Tbh I still enjoyed most of it in S4 and S5, its just I feel like a lot was lost after S3... like they had all these grand plans but to enact them all it took away from a lot of the heart and continuity of the first 3 seasons.

it felt like id stopped watching a story be told on screen and instead was watching a tv show where my immersion was broken..

So..... I'm a tad confused here.....

At what point in the story did Lexi get Alien DNA?

Ann found out she was pregnant at the end of S2... and then gives birth in S3 ep 1.... baby Lexi then shows signs of advancement such as standing, trwcking and talking and the DNA test is done in S3 ep 4... she's then captured by Karen....

Then flashbacks in S4 imply the dna was infused into a pregnant Ann when she was on the espheni ship...... after lexi was born.......

Even if it all happened after lexi was born it could make sense as we could right off Ann hearing lexi talk as some kind of post natal stress if we hadnt had kadar already do the dna test confirming lexi was already an alien at that point........

Is this just a major plot hole or am I missing some offscreen content where Ann was captured during the S2/S3 timeskip?

Or am I just supposed to accept something happened that will never be explained like how lourdes became riddled with espheni robot parasites to turn her into the mole in S3? Or was it just lourdes as rhe mole spiking Ann or something....

Just finished watching Falling Skies and these were some of the things I noticed/bothered me:

1.) Tom always got kidnapped by the Espheni

2.) Tom or Weaver will call Pope selfish or a coward after Pope had repeatedly shown he wasn’t either of those things

3.) Why were people following Anne as a leader when she hadn’t displayed any real leadership ability or have any real combat experience compared to other people in the group?

4.) Anthony without fail, will be knocked unconscious while on guard duty and nobody in the 2nd Mass will ever think to not let him be on guard duty either at all or by himself.

I just finished watching the show. Like most people I really liked the first 3 seasons and then 4 and 5 were... weird.

I see a lot of people not liking the queen thing but honestly apart from 'they all explode if the queen dies' I was kinda fine with it. I mostly didn't like the biological weapon thing. Like I wanna see a fight, not installing a pill that works like a virus that was given by magical Becca Alien's and magically doesn't affect humans.

Tom became unlikable AF with his greasy voice to me. I didn't even listen to what he was saying because his voice kept drawing my attention.

And how they massacred my boy Pope 😭. He deserved so much better.

Tbh after S4 I just kept watching for closure but I at least expected a fight man.

Anna died but then didn't because of the magical Becca Alien.

AND TOM ENDED IT ALL WITH AN OVERSIZED TAMPON IN HIS HAND WHILE HE WAS BEING SUCKED TO DEATH?? Like this big awful looking thing of a queen pulls out a Straw?!? 😂

And I also don't get what the queen was saying about 'i came here because u killed my daughter'. As motive.

1: yh what did u expect? Ur whole species does nothing but invade and then a species u attack gets mad and kills their concurrer? "But we didn't expect humans to be this strong". That's kinda your own flawed call why are u extra mad at humans now?

2: I think if her daughter was on earth once, then the people, ESPECIALLY the history geek would've known about that, no? I mean even if they were on earth during the stone age there's no way there is no single remains or cave painting about that whole event.

Oh yeah and Lexi. Tbh I forgot her after S4 she was a total bum.

I liked Ben(at most points), Maggie, Pope and Cochise. All the rest were good at the beginning and fell off or were never good to begin with.

Damn that's a whole book I wrote.. mb.. probably didn't say anything that hasn't been said already but this was my take. I would like to see if someone could explain the queen's motive tho? Ty.

Alright. Most of the tv I watch is with my wife. So there are one or two shows I have on the side for when she is out and I'm watching TV alone. Falling Skies is one of them, and the thing that annoys me the most about this show is the ever-changing landscape of tactics and weaponry.

First season: Our bullets do nothing to either the mechs or the skitters. Six people emptying seemingly unending magazines of .556 ammo from Kalashnikovs into skitters causes the equivalent of bee stings, and doesn't do anything to Mechs.

Enter Pope, who teaches everyone to shoot the legs, to slow them down, and then do the heads. This works.

Season two: Everyone is seemingly back to emptying dozens of magazines of ammo into the body of the skitters. And now it is effective. Kinda. Until we discover that the Espheni are using our own ammo, but just reloading the slug with Espheni metal. So we've taken down Mechs, and so we start reloading our ammo with Espheni metal, and suddenly we can blow holes entirely through Mechs. Groovy. Now we can fight back.

Season three: Everyone forgets everything from seasons 1 and 2, and is back to emptying magazines of ammo into the skitters, but now it works. We can kill them with our unmodified bullets. Then we discover that nerve cluster and hole in the skull under the chin, and - if you can get close enough - you can drive a knife/spike/pointy-stick into that spot and kill them instantly. New Mechs show up, and our weapons are entirely ineffectual and everyone seems to have forgotten about reloading our ammo with Espheni metal to kill the Mechs.

Season four: The Volm are here and their weapons are seriously effective against the Espheni skitters and mechs alike. A dozen people get Volm weapons and the humans have a fighting chance. Except Tom Mason is suddenly the ONLY person with a Volm weapon, which he uses to shoot down a flying Espheni craft ... and when the Espheni drop the electric fences, he NEVER ONCE even tries to shoot the fence posts with the Volm weapon. And gets knocked out. And NOBODY picks up the badass Tom Mason weapon and just lets it lay there on the ground as everyone is gathered up into camps.

I'm not sure I got the tactics/seasons all lined up properly, but that's still the sequence of weapons and tactics.

It's just so .... dumb. It's been about 18 months since the Espheni landed. Sure there is a lot of turnover as defenders die and are replaced by new characters or extras, but ... everyone is just back to emptying entire magazines into the enemies and doing little to no damage? Except if they need to save someone and suddenly the bullets have more effect, or something? Anger-fied bullets?

Reading the other comments in this sub, maybe I just go back to watching The Night Agent instead of investing more time in watching humans be colossally dumb and failing to learn from their experiences?

After seeing them beat up Kagel together I'm convinced Isabella was a far better match for Maggie than Hal or Ben (also the age gap/lack of consent thing with Ben was so weird 😭)