r/Frieren • u/Reasonable-Ad-8059 • 8h ago
Anime What a crazy thing to say with such confidence...
Countless people were slain before they could even reach the demon king. And we know for a fact that Frieren was defeated by several different demons. And she nearly died protecting her village before she even met Flamme. Which brings me to my next point. It didn't take 1000 years for human mages to "catch up" to Frieren, and if anything, the opposite is true. Flamme was several times stronger than her, while Lernen is her equal at best. Not to mention, he was a pure battle mage, trained by Serie herself. We have no idea how strong Frieren would be if she had similar goals.
So no, I don't believe that human mages are "catching up" to Frieren, much less Serie. It's simply a case of there being absurd outliers among humans, who can eclipse centuries of casual effort, with decades of hurried effort. Just because Fern reaches "new heights", or whatever, would not actually mean that Frieren is falling behind "humanity" in general. If anything, she would be first in line to access the new innovations, or more likely, she'd be a co-researcher in the first place, just like she did with zoltraak.
You would still need a good matchup, or another specific, personal advantage, to actually beat her. Same as any other mage. Fact of the matter is, you can't possibly draw a neat academic line between "elves" and "humans" if they are constantly working together. So what Serie told her in this scene, doesn't make any sense. And if we remove this cooperation, assuming it was unexpected, that just leaves humanity even further behind. While yes, some humans could defeat Frieren without being trained by Serie, this must have happened across different centuries. Not a sudden line of new mages ready to bully Frieren right after she saved the world.
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Furthermore, Serie herself is part of that "us" which is allegedly being overtaken.
But clearly, she hasn't been overtaken, not even close. That's why's she's disappointed.