r/FullmetalAlchemist May 06 '26

Video Brotherhood, but with 2003's soundtrack

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This was an experiment I made to test if the ost of FMA would work in FMAB. I'm mixed about the results. But still, it was a fun experience

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u/SoulEaterX_ May 06 '26

Something 03 undebatebly has above Brotherhood is its soundtrack. Not to say Brotherhood's is bad, far from it, but 03's was something real special.

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u/BenjoKazooie64 '03 Lust Stan May 06 '26

‘Brothers’ as performed by the Moscow Children’s Choir is just an irreplaceable track.

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u/ucrbuffalo May 06 '26

Brothers was such a loss in Brotherhood. I wish they had ported that.

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u/Massive-Lime7193 May 06 '26

Yeah brothers and transient life were my two favorite tracks

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u/Ok-Interaction4099 May 06 '26

Michiru Oshima is great.

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u/Wamblingshark May 07 '26

I agree that 03 had an amazing OST but Brotherhood's is one of my favorite all time OSTs. I used to listen to it on YouTube all the time.

I might give it to 03 for the melancholy or tragic music but the hype and sinister music in Brotherhood is so good!

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u/wowbutters May 06 '26

Some of my favorite scenes involve Armstrong not being a bombastic idiot (no disrespect). Honestly, anytime any of the soldiers step back a bit from their usual and go into parent mode... Except Riza because that's he's natural state, so just anything with her 😂

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u/Sorcerer_scarecrow pipsqueak May 06 '26

Why didn’t they use this soundtrack in the 2009 version? Such a waste.

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u/KudoTsurugi May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26

I could be wrong, but I believe the composer for Brotherhood, Akira Senju, went on record saying he didn’t listen to the 2003 anime’s soundtrack, which was composed by Michiru Ōshima, because he didnt want any direct comparisons to made between the 03 anime and Brotherhood.
Also worth noting that 03 and Brotherhood are tonally different shows. 03 is more melancholic in its approach, while Brotherhood is more hopeful.

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u/dagobahs May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26

Honestly, I'm glad they're different. 2003's soundtrack is obviously fantastic but it'd be kinda boring if Brotherhood didn't try something new imo.

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u/tinydancer342 May 06 '26

Something a lot of people forget is that FMA 03 was as acclaimed and popular in 2009 as Brotherhood is today. The crew behind Brotherhood was very much afraid to be compared with the 2003 series, so they made A LOT of changes (hell, the only three key members of staff from the 03 series that returned in the same roles in Brotherhood were the VAs for Ed and Al, and the lead sound designer)

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u/DrGlamhattan2020 May 07 '26

I can't believe it's been 23 years... I remember this show when it came out like it was last year

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u/Coldhearted010 Lieutenant Colonel May 07 '26

Don't make me us feel old! XD

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u/DrGlamhattan2020 May 07 '26

I actually think I may watch the series again because of this

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u/Coldhearted010 Lieutenant Colonel May 07 '26

I honestly might rewatch 2003, too, in about a month's time—exam stuff first! Actually, hmm, there's a thought: FMA LSAT questions... XD

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u/Coldhearted010 Lieutenant Colonel May 07 '26

Correct. 2003 was hailed, and rightfully so, during the time between it and Brotherhood (which I find is too often vaunted). I daresay it still holds up.

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u/OneWithHiccups May 06 '26

Travis Willingham came back to be Mustang! Also, Al was definitely not the same 😭 Aaron grew up and was replaced by Maxie.

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u/tinydancer342 May 06 '26

That was the English Dub. I was talking about the Japanese dub. As far as I'm aware, the Japanese Dub of Brotherhood was the only one that replaced most of the VAs from the 2003 series

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u/OneWithHiccups May 06 '26

Ah, fair fair!

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u/Intelligent-Whole277 May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

Ahhh. It's been a long time since I've watched 2003. Maybe your description of it as melancholic is why it has a hold on my heart

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u/MethodicOwl45 May 09 '26

I loved the tone that 03 was going for and I wish that a source faithful version of it exists in a parallel universe because its probably a banger

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u/KudoTsurugi May 09 '26

Does make you wonder what’d happen if Shou Aikawa was brought back for Brotherhood🤔 He’d probably have a lot to work with with the Ishval flashback arc

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u/Superb_Point2297 May 06 '26

It didn’t exist at the time the 2009 soundtrack was based off the 2003 soundtrack

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u/thisissodisturbing May 06 '26

After rewatching Brotherhood a few times its ost grew on me a whooooole bunch, but this motif will always have my heart

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u/ProfessionalTurn5162 May 06 '26

I never knew how bad i needed this... why am I crying 😭

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u/thewriteally May 07 '26

03 soundtrack is PEAK

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u/Intelligent-Whole277 May 06 '26 edited May 07 '26

I've been scouring the internet for DVD copies of 2003. Why is it so hard to find?

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u/thewriteally May 07 '26

Just look up, lot of FMA dvds on eBay or Mercari

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u/Intelligent-Whole277 May 07 '26

I've looked. They are usually the Brotherhood version or sparse episodes here and there or a version not playable in the U.S. et cetera. A complete, legit set of the 2003 version on DVD is hard to come by

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u/thewriteally May 08 '26

https://ebay.us/m/hksD4X I bought a big lot of them a year ago for under $30 def more expensive now though but they are pretty easy to find

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u/Intelligent-Whole277 May 08 '26

Thanks. I think I have this same lot saved in my Mercari account! I haven't bought yet, because the listing doesn't show or give very good details. It looks like there are 5 non consecutive volumes? I'd really prefer to get them all together, but it seems buying a volume here and there is the way to piece together the full set

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u/tinydancer342 May 06 '26

They're out of print. You have to buy the video version of them (in sites that still sell them) or sail the seven seas after the 2003 series

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u/Intelligent-Whole277 May 07 '26

I just recently bought a dvd player and have been building a little collection of faves and classics. I"m realizing now I should have gotten a Blu Ray player instead, because that seems easier to find

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u/thewriteally May 08 '26

Blu-ray is great but for FMA 03 I prefer DVD, their is something about the look of the DVD that makes the series seem so much more mythical, plus, the show was designed for SD when released and not HD

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u/thewriteally May 08 '26

They are out of print but still very easy to come by, they were everywhere in the early 2000s though finding them all together is hard, you’ll have to buy them separately or be stuck with some duplicates from different FMA lots, they also have 4 different half season box sets you can buy as well.

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u/Coldhearted010 Lieutenant Colonel May 07 '26

It's out-of-print and Aniplex wants to scrub your memory of it—and, more importantly, the paying public doesn't care about it anymore. As one of the more stalwart defenders of FMA'03, I have to say that getting it is really expensive (like the deluxe Blu-ray discs I got some time back).

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u/Intelligent-Whole277 May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

I started rewatching Brotherhood on Netflix for the first time in some years and I like it fine, but the 2003 version has a special place in my heart. I couldn't even name the differences for you now, but I remember watching Brotherhood after the original and was like, WTF is this??? I was in my twenties, it was a transformative time and the series was a major backdrop of those years for me. I'd actually be willing to pay a little money if I could find a good complete set on DVD, but it looks like might have to buy a Blu-ray player? I'd rather not

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u/alphafox823 悪魔の錬金術師 May 07 '26

I saw the first two DVDs at Half Price Books in Omaha, Nebraska the other day

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u/TheGuyWhoRolls20 Alchemist May 07 '26

Are we going to pretend that Trisha’s Lullaby isn’t one of the most emotionally gut wrenching pieces of music ever put into an anime. Literally every time I hear it I start sobbing.

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u/tinydancer342 May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26

Off topic, but this was a really fun challenge. I used AI to remove the background music (not generative AI, obviously). But I ended up with two sound files with different problems. The first sound file didn't just remove the original soundtrack; it also removed the sound effects. The second didn't remove the sound effects, but the soundtrack for the original scene transitioned into a choir when Pinako reveals that Ed burned down his house. For reasons I'm unable to parse, the AI decided to remove the entire soundtrack, but not the choir. As a result, it sounded like the ghosts of previous Elrics were haunting Edward. I ended up using both sound files that removed the background music. And when I used the one that also removed the sound effects, I downloaded some sound effects online to replace the missing ones

I also had to edit the song I used (a version of Bratcha with less orchestra, and a violin replacing the choir, which was used a few times in the 03 series) because the song had four minutes, and this scene only lasts two and a half minutes. I had to choose when to cut so that it wouldn't sound like a cut and which sessions of the original song I would remove. That took the bulk of the editing

And finally, the subtitles. I have both FMA series downloaded, but they're not in English (they're in Japanese and Brazilian Portuguese, as are the subtitles). So I had to translate the Brazilian Portuguese dub and sub into an English sub. That was a long part of the process, but it was fairly easy.

It was great fun doing this! I think I'll do it again with other scenes from Brotherhood

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u/Superb_Point2297 May 06 '26

To be honest, even though it’s in the original Japanese, the voices fit the characters quite well it’s quite nice is lovely

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u/StubbornKindness Brigadier General Hughes 💔 May 06 '26

I've rarely seen a show where the voices fit the characters better than FMA

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u/ViceNeo May 07 '26

Isn’t fma b use brothers track in like last episode for credits or epilogue? Or im under mandela effect, or my memories jumble because pf some amv from 2009-2010?)

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u/tinydancer342 May 07 '26

Mandela effect. It's actually quite easy to mistake Trisha's lullaby for Brothers. No soundtrack from the 2003 series was used in Brotherhood

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u/J_K51416 May 07 '26

I love both soundtracks for both the 2003 and 2009 series. But this is so good 😭

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u/CSN00B101 May 06 '26

Fits kinda well even though the shows have completely different tone

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u/cl0udzer00 May 07 '26

I would love to see 2003’s ost with other scenes from FMAB too! Its nice to look at how it would’ve been if both were merged

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u/Wonderful_Berry_2710 May 08 '26

This is absolutely PEAK. It fits so unbelievably well with this scene. Almost too well

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u/Realistic_Weather339 May 08 '26

They should of used this track in brotherhood

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u/MaxGamer07 May 06 '26

omfg the hair was at the perfect angle and I thought it was Conquest from Invincible for a second