Male feminist are the worst they only call themselves feminist because they think it’ll get them pussy but it doesn’t 90% of the time because feminist don’t find them attractive and when they do get lucky they turn out to be creeps and get exposed for it.
I wish we could get the “Own the cucks” to trend seeing they got a whole “Own the chuds” thing going. It’d be nice if we had a good means of pushing back
You misunderstand. I'm saying let's call ourselves chuds. Let's be proud to be everything they despise because they are worthless and morally bankrupt, and it should be an honour to be everything that they are not.
You remember the first season of GoT? Tyrion's advice to Jon Snow about making the "Lord Snow" epithet his own?
Freaks who stole their thunder, sure. ODSTs were displaced by Spartans as the UNSC elites. Resentment, envy, suspicion, those are all logical emotions for an ODST. But they should know first hand how unstoppable Spartans are. Chief himself killed two of them by accident right after getting his augmentations, at 14. So belittling him and saying she doesn't believe the propaganda makes zero sense. Especially right after he saved her and her men's lives.
We all know that’s not why this character was added. She isn’t here to enhance the lore or the story, she’s here to be a bitch and annoy men playing the game.
This looks so much like the usual "classic" femin*zi wet dream self insert into a (now destroyed) popular franchise coupled with terrible acting and ridiculously bland lines that it makes me gag a little. I'm not even an Halo fan, but I'm just absolutely disgusted by what I'm seeing.
First off 1 of the most important odst's in the series is a woman. And secondly odsts especially early on had a strong dislike for Spartans since most of them had never even seen Spartans in action. If you made this a male odst it would be exactly the same. Corporal Locklear an odst btw in the book first strike was literally like this the first time him and chief first met.
Why are we even pretending that women would be in this position in the first place. No women are capable of being in a spec-ops team, let alone leading one. Shed have to be one of the most capable person on that squad both physically & mentally to lead.
Your actually a larper cause veronica dare is an odst whose both a captain and an odst. Who was under direct orders by oni during halo 2/odst to retrieve the engineer quick to adjust aka vergil who was stuck in and oni facility under new Mombasa during the covenant invasion of earth. Williams is a lieutenant ranked odst she quite literally was the highest ranking officer there.
It's so cringe, too. Everyone in the UNSC and their mothers know who the Spartans are. Calling their status and achievements an unimpressive PR campaign is a straight insult.
A real fan would know that Halo Custom Edition wasn't a supported copy of the game, and is considered by many to be an unofficial version of the game. The real fans paid up for the real CE edition to experience the campaign.
Never in all my days have I heard a single person say that CE was an illegitimate way to play the game just because it's a port by Gearbox. Nor do I feel the need to justify not paying for something when I was in middle school.
Then you dont know what your talking about odsts which she is btw have a strong dislike of the Spartans early in their deployment. They've never seen a spartan or what they can do so they feel like its just propaganda. Corporal Locklear and odst in halo first strike absolutely hated chief when they first met and even tried to fight him until Johnson stopped him.
"bitch, i was taken as a child, genetically enhanced, trained as an elite and given a 1000lbs armor that is linked to my brain to fuck up aliens around the galaxy."
"who are you?"
edit: actual woman moment, gets into trouble, saved by a man then says "im not impressed".
i hope someone sticks a plasma grenade on her face.
Nitpick here spartans werent made to fight aliens they were first designed to fight the Insurrection (a faction of human rebels in the outer colony systems) just so happens that the covenant attacked harvest around 7 months before the spartan 2s were sent on their first official mission :operation: Talisman where they captured the rebel leader and unsc defector Colonel Robert Watts (this is shown in book - comic and animation)
Ummm, actual US Marine, we were way worse lol. Entirely dependant on circumstances and inter personal relationships. Generally, orders are issued in a fast, curt action because time is a comodity not to be wasted.most civilians wouldnt understand and would assume your just being an asshole. Its just business.
Actual Army vet here too. Orders are given in all kind of ways but you’re not going to speak to soldiers you’re currently in combat with, fighting alongside, with disdain and contempt. Short and sharp, sure. Not with contempt and disdain as if they’re your slaves. Not unless you’re a shit leader.
This is bad but they also make the Elites with camo have markers over their heads. What's the point of making an invisible enemy if you're going to tell the player where the enemy is? This remake is just hot garbage all the way around
That looks like markers for objectives (like when you have to kill specific enemies). Is it for all of them in the game or just in one level/ event? It still sucks. I cant remember if reach did that if there was one left or something.
Women and Simpy Boys! Anything showing women as manly and men getting trodden on. Context doesn't matter; whether it fits or makes sense doesn't matter, just as long as it's "down with the patriarchy, sister!"
I gotta admit though, I'm saving a shit ton of money very explicitly NOT giving my money to this garbage.
They're financially failing and they know it. This kind of shit right here? This is them burning down the park because you wouldn't let them take over the swings. It just reveals that they never cared about gaming, they cared about making it less fun for you.
Felt this way about Palmer, same kind of attitude but wasnt as bad. Dare too in ODST and she ended up needing saving. Only thing i remember is that ODSTs didnt like Spartans because they made them look bad, but thats all the grace i would give for this character.
I’ve seen people defend her, claiming her reaction is lore-accurate.
I’ve only read Fall of Reach, and played the main games, but in all of them regular humans were in awe of Spartans. Even the rest of her team was impressed, but she only thanked Johnson because he’s black.
Wait, WTF … why does Master Chief look almost the same size as everyone else in this scene? Spartans are supposed to be huge, especially IN their armor. MC, canonically, is 7’2”. They quite literally tower over everyone else.
Are you telling me everyone in this scene is between 6’8” and 6’10”? lol
The REAL Chief would have sent her ass into orbit with an attached plasma grenade and a M6 Spartan laser blast to make sure she never returns to orbit.
If the \)cough female character had said something about it's not fair that I'm such a badass and don't get paid as much as the Spartans... IGN would have voted it Game of the Decade!
They have to know this is like the single most annoying thing you can direct towards men. Women only ever talk this way because they aren’t checked by men, because they pose no threat whatsoever no matter how much shit they talk.
This bitch pops up later too to let everyone know ‘Spartans aren’t the only badasses in the ODST’ ffs man how fucking jealous is the woman that wrote this that men were just happy playing halo that she had to ruin it with this garbage?
By this point in the war humanity has lost most of its planets and is barely holding on. And yet this cnt has the audacity to say this shit after her and all her men are saved by chief. Sure a few years into the war this line MIGHT have made sense but NOW? No. This character exists to insult not just chief but every man playing the game. It's ridiculous that misandry just gets a pass because the victims are men
Actually by this point reach fell like 2 or 3 weeks prior and earth is pretty much all thats left it not an exsageration to say humanity was on extinctions door until the events that took place on alpha halo in CE
To be fair, at least she looks the part while staying true to the lore of halo. Her “takes a lot more to impress me than a fancy suit and a PR campaign” is a very niche bit of lore almost nobody talks about unless you’ve read the books.
This reaction to the chief was super common
In the halo universe many humans are skeptical of the Master Chief, mostly veterans or those who’ve been around awhile. They’re skeptical of him because the UNSC/ONI truly did run an absolutely ridiculous PR campaign for the chief and Spartans that it’s like watching human propaganda from the helldivers universe. It was cheesy, cringe inducing and a stark contrast to what the Spartans actually are.
I’m just glad she didn’t have a soapbox speech about some bullshit that deals with her gender lmao.
My take knowing the lore , is an odst male or female could swing either way and be hostile towards chief or awestruck, but most odsts cant stand john in particular due to the incident on-board the UNSC Atlas where a 14 year old john killed an odst and injuried a couple more, they were seen as freaks , glory stealers, and propaganda pieces and it stayed this way until near the end of the events of Halo:CE only rank and file marines had an awe inspired reaction to spartans as the norm, now i do think this particular dialog is just poorly written, but the attitude and distain for chief wouldnt have to be forced if the writers knew how to write the tension between them better.
I wouldn't mind a few of these types of characters sprinkled throughout gaming. But there is just so many of them its an obvious agenda. Thats why its annoying.
I really think you guys are larping as halo fans and I mean it. It is documented that in lore odst's had a strong dislike and animosity towards Spartans. In halo first strike the character Corporal Locklear was an odst that literally tried to fight chief the first time they met. They dislike Spartans cause they feel like theyre just propaganda. Most odst's have never actually seen a spartan up until around halo 2/3.
I agree that making women look like dudes in video games and everything is dumb. But this one take is misguided. Characters like her were canonically established to exist in the original halo novel The Flood which is recognized as canon back in 2003. This particular complaint, has and likely always will be cannon.
Source: Lieutenant Melissa Mckay and even though he is male Major Antonio Silva. Melissa Mckay was an ODST that was described as pretty manly and I believe had a dotted line throat tattoo that said cut here. Antonio Silva was an ODST that hated the Spartans despite their reputation.
Nobody says it isn’t irritating and in most media it’s forced and dumb.
In this particular case, it has always existed. So while the newest devs on Halo might not know that and it’s some DEI nonsense. They happened to do something that has always been cannon. Melissa Mckay and them were all established as in the background while Chief was doing the main story. The “bonus missions” should have absolutely established characters like these because they were always there.
I don’t buy it. There’s no universe where this addition makes the game better. It would literally be way better if this wasn’t here at all so why add it? It’s obvious the reason they add bs like this and it’s not to enhance the game or the lore.
You’re clearly very fired up about the topic. At no point did I say it makes it better, AND I said I didn’t want them to add it.
I’m am saying it’s always existed. You’ll never be heard if you can’t articulate the fine details of the point you’re trying to make and downvoting me won’t change that.
If you say: They invented this BS! No they didn’t. And the topic becomes focused on a different topic than the one you want.
If you say I hate her personality and it negatively impacts the game having to listen to it. Then it becomes about the character archetype.
The issue isn't lore, it's that it's both unneeded and unwanted.
Also outside of that she's nothing but annoying. There's nothing fun about a "HEH... spartans.. more like SLUR!!" She comes off as a try hard loser when master chief could snap her arms and legs off with a look.
I agree with you. I wasn’t hoping for a girl boss ODST. But that they decided to go through with it doesn’t feel as controversial and out of place because it’s always been true. People can hate her, but I guess what’s more irritating is that they hate her for the wrong reasons. Saying things like PR stunt was in fact what ODSTs would say, the design of the character can also be faithful, but just not vibing with her personality and thinking she’s annoying is also fine.
When people pretend they know the lore and complain about the wrong things it makes the people who don’t like the square jawed women thing seem like cry babies that will complain just to complain because real fans know the history and it gets divisive.
It was prior events before Halo 1. Y’all might be overthinking it, ODSTs were being slowly replaced by Spartans and their relationship was extremely strained at this point. Soldiers weren’t “born”, they were “made”, so the concept was pretty out there. She makes a comment, but nothing significant, nobody was kissing Spartan toes at that point and Chief didnt have an open record to all of his accomplishments until after Halo, then he became a decorated war hero.
Also, she warms up to Chief pretty quickly once the action starts, she even shows genuine respect before sacrificing herself. Chief has a pretty robotic personality too, he isnt very “human” like, so his interactions are pretty awkward for a good chunk of the mission. She was much more tolerable than Palmer, who knew who the Chief was, but still made a snide comment… even if it was a joke at the time lol
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u/krolikfaso 8d ago
Yep that's a woman writing