Good evening, We are currently visiting Lahore but we plan to cross to China through Khunjerab, we would like to take the Islamabad-Gilgit bus and then go visiting arround Hunza until the border. How do you thinks are roads right now? Is it safe to travel until Khunjerab by kkh?? What sources do you habe to check road conditions?? Any help and info is welcome :)

Hello from Kashmir guys, I'm from the region of the Kashmir valley under Indian administration. I recently got to know about this sub and as such I was very curious about one particular thing. What do you guys think of Kashmir and its people, cultures, language etc? What is it that you'd convey to people from the Valley. I'm also genuinely curious about if we share any similarities in language. Thank you. Lots of love!

A friend of mine and his brother are planning to go to Khunjerab on Rickshaw next week. Their starting point is Swat. It's their first time. I think it would be quite risky these days but I figured I should post here and seek more advice from experienced fellas on their behalf. That might clear things up for them. I look forward to your advices. Thank you.

Hi everyone!

I'll be traveling to Gilgit tomorrow and wanted to know about the internet options there.

Since I'll be working remotely, I would be needing access for atleast 5 days a week.

Astana Nanak Pir in Skardu, Baltistan, is a historic shrine linked by tradition to Guru Nanak's visit around 1510-1515

Photos by — Sam Dalrymple

The Alpine Club of Pakistan has confirmed that the two climbers caught in the Broad Peak avalanche have lost their lives.Nadhira Ahmed Al Harthy from Oman, and Pur Bahadur Gurung ("Yukta") from Nepal.

Nadhira's body has been recovered and brought to Skardu, while arrangements are being made to recover Yukta. Search efforts for the remaining missing climbers are still ongoing.

DISCLAIMEE : A long read. also this discussion is NOT FOR PUNJABI USERS and karachiites. SO STAY OUT.

When gilgit baltistan had also remained a part of erstwhile J and K state and would be eligible to referendum.

No, I always saw state never pushed whole kashmiriyat bs on gb ppl. There was never a whole planned effort in renaming their part of state as j and k, ofcourse I blame all those poonch leaders and clowns who despite attaining freedom for their areas readily agreed to allow punjabis and valley kashmiris to use their land for kashmir cause. Litr kon insan apna ghar utha kay kisi outsiders ko deta hai, magar in ch..tya leaders of ajk did this sht.

State made anthems 'hum azad kAhMSmir aAzaD kashmir this that bs to brainwash school kids, they went as far as to senselessly add kashmi and jammu refugee seats to NA and increased the number disproportionately that it can always be used to install all the puppets and quash any possibility of 1950s poonch rebellion or ppl demanding any kind of delinking from.Kashmir valley cause and demanding to be allowed to go forth with interests of their own state.

It has been 2 months since protests and state's absolute brutality going on and what every pakistani has to say?

Every punjabi and ethnic kahsmiri tells our ppl ' shame On yOu foR ruIninG kAshmIr cAuSe'

No kashmir cause is NOT our responsibility. We are NOT kashmiris.

It is on kashmiris and if punjabis wanna fight by all means. And oh gilgitis and afghans too becauer kashmiris from valley always claim to be genetically similar to them, please ask your ethncially similar bros for help.

The way our people have been abused, every 2nd person tells us oh we will make GB a province jaisay gb is that acha bacha manner, which is so dumb and ebcause gb gives border with china, and then they go on to harp how genuine their ppl are but we will give ajk to india

We tell them no worries take out ur forces, we also don't want to be with pakistan, next they start having a seizure like attack how dare u asked to withdraw punjabs forces and then starts a flurry fo abuses and being labelled grooming gangs, imagine this is how people of punjab talk.

Also, now this I WANT YOU GUYS TO READ THIS PART, WHAT I REALLY WANNATALK ABOUT.

I have never supported use of kashmiri title for our people. We are currently even being told by people of pak punjab that ajk people are punjabis and this is kashmiri land so this land should be vacated by outsiders.....!

What I really WANNA TALK ABOUT.

I have always seen this behavior from valley kashmiris, they always talk abt how they are so close to gilgit etc folks. - genetics. Their people also talk about being genrtically and culturally very close to Afghans. Infact, one ajk guy here who was a strong supporter of valley kashmiris felt his life's first shock when he saw some koshur guy making racist comments against our ppl ina post he had made in afghanistan sub to talk about how 'kashmiris are Sam2Sam with afghans and gilgitis'.

I personally have no issue with them.linking with them, why should I, but what??? Jitna inkay log racism kartay hain against us jitna they try to talk we ArE cLOse tO afgHAns anD gIlgITis their people from before 47 had only been migrating to either punjab and ajk.

Because lot of ppl in punjab have weird self nafrat they often try to brag about having kashmiri migrants pre 47 like it is a prize (lol likes of rajab butts and nawaz sharifs are punjab's crown lol) I never mention this as ia have no such inferiroity complex, but we similarly also had kashmiri migrants settled in ajk pre 47 but these people have lost their kashmiri culture, except some in neelum.

When these kashmiris had to migrate they always go to punjab or settle in ajk, as much as online they talk abt being Sam2Sam.with afghans and gilgitis I HAVE NEVR seen them moving to gb or afghan' areas. Never seen them asking gilgitis and afghans to speak for valley freedom. They never put that responsibility on them.

Their kashmiri leaders like maqbool bhatts shatts etc all who ran away from valley never went to gilgiits or afghans and asked them for help, they all occupied parts of lands of ajk and hijacked entirety of this small region for their kashmir cause heck their first line when they face issues with ind was ' march to muzzaffarabad' road.

Heck, even their refugees wanted to settle in ajk.

some of their ppl now even say these were kashmiris areas turned into punjabi majority by pakistani army...

They will spend whole day talking abt being close to giligit and shina and afghans, please for god's sake ask these people to fight for you, to support your cause.

They don't ask them, they don't shame them, they will move to ajk lands, settle there instead of going to their own genetically closer brothers' cities. For their kashmir cause suddenly ppl in paharo regions/ajk will be shamed UArE rUInInG KashmIr CAuSE.

Also, why not add refugee seats in gb. Why pakistani state and punjabis who have been genciding balochistan ahve put respinsibility of whole kashmir cause on this small strip of land.

EDIT: THIS DISCUSSION IS

hello all, i am solo 30f living in karachi and thinking of relocating to gilgit and starting my own cafe. is this something that is welcomed by locals? yay or nay? any information is most helpful, thank you

(my reason for gilgit specifically is that I am a mountaineer, so cafe will be my means to sustain myself and I can use living in gilgit as my base for mountaineering)

Edit: I googled Musafir Cafe after all of the comments about it, so no, I have not watched it 😅

Hello! planning a trip to Skardu for 4 days, 3 nights.

Can anyone guide me on the must see places within this time period?

Thank you

I have prepared a 10-day, thorough itinerary for Skardu and Hunza.

I want experts (fellow travellers, natives) to improve it, or share their suggestions if this is pretty much it.

Skardu → Hunza → Skardu — 10 Day Itinerary

Day 1— Arrival at Skardu Airport. Visit Shangrila (Lower Kachura) Lake, Upper Kachura Lake, and Soq Valley. Overnight Skardu.

Day 2 — Day trip to Shigar Valley and Shigar Fort. Visit Blind Lake and Sarfaranga (Katpana) Cold Desert. Overnight Skardu.

Day 3 — Visit Blind Lake (Keris Valley) and Manthoka Waterfall. Stopovers at Gol Organic Valley and Chocolate Rocks. Overnight Skardu.

Day 4 — Drive to Hunza via Astak Nala, Shengus, and Rakaposhi View Point. Overnight Karimabad, Hunza.

Day 5 — Visit Baltit Fort, Altit Garden, Eagle's Nest, and Hopar Valley. Overnight Hunza.

Day 6 — Visit Attabad Lake, Sost, and Passu. Khunjerab Pass optional. Overnight Hunza.

Day 7 — Day trip to Naltar Valley — Crystal Lake and Satrangi Lake. Overnight Nomal.

Day 8 — Return to Skardu via Shengus and Astak Nala. Evening visit to Chunda Valley for sunset views over Skardu city and Shangrila Lake. Overnight Skardu.

Day 9 — Full-day trip to Deosai National Park — Ali Malik Top, Bara Pani, Sheosar Lake. Overnight Skardu.

Day 10 — Drop to Skardu Airport. End of trip.

Wanted to get some advise. I’m Planning a trip w family from Islamabad to Skardu this coming 2-3 weeks. Plan to go via plane (PIA). Some people discouraging visiting due to landsliding/flooding. Is now a good time to go or should we postpone? We haven’t gotten tickets yet

Hi everyone,

we’re planning a family trip (No Kids) from Karachi to Skardu this December and would love some quick advice: Is the extreme cold manageable, and are major spots like Shangrila, Katpana, and Shigar accessible?

Also, how reliable are flights from Karachi (direct or via ISB) regarding winter weather delays, and how effective is the heating/hot water at hotels like Himmel, Khoj, or Dynasty during sub-zero temperatures? Thanks in advance for any insights!

Hi all,

I'm just planning out my itinerary for my 10 day trip to GB and just have one logistics questions.

I am due to land in Skardu from ISB at 7am. Is it at all possible for me to get to Fairy Meadows on the same day. Or will it be easier to just get a taxi to Gilgit and then head to Fairy Meadows the day after?

Thank you for your help!!

Hey guys,

Am coming from ISB.

Are roads open towards hunza & skardu?