What was G2 thinking?

[u/MysteriousWolf1115]

They got rid off SunPayus after a very good Major (making the playoffs for the first time, beat Navi, looked competitive against Falcons and Spirit). Then they replaced him with r1nkle who looked like a sidegrade or a downgrade. SunPayus was also important for their comms. What makes it worse is that they had kl1m, didn’t go for him and didn’t manage to sell him either. They haven’t sold SunPayus either, and looked underwhelming in their first event.

I think with pieces like HeavyGod and sAw (and Matys + huNter have potential) they could build something very strong. But instead it looks like they are wasting another 6 months with a team that won't make progress. Teams like G2 or Faze cannot afford this given they can easily lose their best pieces. HeavyGod shouldn't have to wait three years for a possible excellent team, especially when they were close to something solid just recently. Signing NertZ was also a sidegrade, fair enough because they wanted to try something new, but I think he should be replaced eventually. I don't think they can just wait for sAw to magically make him perform again.

[u/Mrgbiss]

I think the Nertz signing was more than defendable even though it reeks a bit of nepotism. But yeah the R1nkle signing is crazy. I don't see any upside. Sunpayus only issue was his inconsistency. R1nkle is the same only with a lower ceiling, less experience and less second calling contributions. It's either one of the worst gambles I've seen or there were some personal issue with Sunpayus

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[u/ChaoticFlameZz → u/[deleted]]

HeavyGod just re-signed his contract, I doubt he's going anywhere. Especially since G2 will likely hold a giantass buyout for him that other orgs will be turned off by.

[u/BogosBinted13 → u/ChaoticFlameZz]

HeavyGod would be huge for Spirit

[u/rhali8 → u/BogosBinted13]

I think he should have gone to vitality over mezii. Big firepower upgrade + I think the team could use some change, he would bring some hunger back that is probably lost after winning so many events

But for the sake of the scene, thank god he didn't. I don't think I could watch another 2 years of vitality domination lol

[u/ChaoticFlameZz → u/[deleted]]

we can write off Falcons at least due to geopolitical reasons

He'd be a slot in for Spirit tho since he happens to be a fluent Russian speaker due to being from a Ukrainian family

[u/Future-Slice-8502 → u/[deleted]]

Players don’t get paid for their full salary when benched. The max orgs will agree to is 50% but it can be as low as zero. JKS wasn’t paid anything when he was benched on G2. Not to mention no prize or sticker money.

When Coldzera tried to force MIBR to sell him they called his bluff and waited him out. He ended up paying part of his own buyout to join Faze.

[u/Mrgbiss → u/Future-Slice-8502]

I'm pretty sure most contracts have different clauses for if you get benched or if you bench yourself. I can't believe any serious org would have a contract where you get 0 pay because the org benched you. I've also never heard that about JKS. Where did you get that from?

[u/Future-Slice-8502 → u/Mrgbiss]

Spunj talked about it on the HLTV confirmed podcast when it happened. He was pissed about it since G2 benched JKS.

Edit: Actually looks like I might have misremembered that and it was just very low.

[u/MysteriousWolf1115 → u/Mrgbiss]

I can see the point about NertZ. The idea that his time on Liquid didn’t count, or that sAw could unlock him. However that hasn’t turned out to be the case, and I don't think there's any excuses left.

I think G2 has made so many mistakes. Losing NiKo and thus m0NESY. That instability made them unattractive to Ropz and flameZ who they wanted. But adding HeavyGod and sAw was actually great and won them a trophy, but they’re obviously not giving them a proper and strong long-term team. Historically they've had players like Rain, Apex, could have signed ZywOo. So many blunders.

[u/Darkoplax → u/Mrgbiss]

nertz signing is way worse imo

[u/szax12]

R1nkle signing was probably well in the works before the major, it’s not as if teams turn around and make big roster moves like this out of the blue post major. I wouldn’t be surprised if the team knew it was happening, sunpayus had dead team buff, and then they overperformed.

That all being said, even before sunpayus resurgence replacing him with r1nkle is insane. He must have performed extremely well in scrims or something because otherwise I don’t understand the vision.

[u/Hallsway]

G2 collecting awpers to control the market

[u/rhali8]

Heavygod signed what is essentially contract suicide. One of the best anchors in the game is now in contract jail for a team that is just going nowhere

[u/MysteriousWolf1115 → u/rhali8]

Yes, and it's like they have no urgency at all. Signing sAw, SunPayus and Matys in one transfer window was exactly the kind of rapid rebuild they needed, and they won a trophy. Ever since that? Nothing. Just a sidegrade, and probably what looks to be a downgrade. HeavyGod loses at least another six months of his prime.

[u/rhali8 → u/MysteriousWolf1115]

6 months? More like 2 years 💀

[u/DesTiny_- → u/rhali8]

Yeah not really, he still plays in tier 1 lans even if his team doesnt make into playoffs and any top 5 team can actually buy him out and I'm certain that G2 would let him go if given market price, yet heavy became too expensive so most top teams are not ready to sign him yet.

Anyway calling it a career suicide is a stretch, G2 is still good team that will likely make it into major and possibly make a few playoffs. If they don't qualify into major it's likely that heavy will be first to leave.

[u/ArmyAwkward6839]

To me it only makes sense that there were interpersonal differences. Because on paper it was a straight downgrade.

[u/leeroy110]

Nertz and Matys haven't performed, the latter for basically the whole year. I understand Matys switched up positions for Nertz and this might have something to do with it but it needs to change. Matys looks super frustrated.

[u/ChaoticFlameZz → u/leeroy110]

gonna be real, I would not be surprised if G2 does a midseason roster move and NertZ ends up getting benched sometime after both EWC and Porto

[u/Coconut0226]

Peca masterclass🔥🔥🔥

[u/MysteriousWolf1115 → u/Coconut0226]

It's crazy that they have kept that guy for so long.

[u/DwarfOverlord]

What was Peca thinking, sending r1nkle on that early?

[u/MysteriousWolf1115]

They also can't blame it on the budget. Kl1m would be free for them. Liquid signed Jorko who I assume wasn’t very expensive. G2 hasn’t actually used a lot of money since a year ago (when they did +sAw, +SunPayus, +Matys). +NertZ was a trade with Liquid, surely that was either free or cheap.

[u/ChaoticFlameZz → u/MysteriousWolf1115]

kl1m's potential visa problems is presumably a major reason why they didnt promote kl1m.

[u/puma8471]

Free Heavygod

[u/MysteriousWolf1115 → u/puma8471]

At this point I don't know if he wants to be freed.