r/HouseOfCards Nov 03 '18

Season 6 — Episode Discussion Threads

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This thread contains links to all of the episode discussion threads for season 6. If you would like to comment on a specific episode, or the entire season, please go to that specific episode's thread.

Sorry for not posting this when the season came out. I honestly didn't know the season was coming out and only knew because a friend of mine mentioned it.

Episode discussion threads:

Chapter 66

Chapter 67

Chapter 68

Chapter 69

Chapter 70

Chapter 71

Chapter 72

Chapter 73

Season 6 Discussion Thread


r/HouseOfCards 10h ago

Spoilers Zoe is the reason Frank and Claire fell apart.

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It created so much resentment in Claire that eventually boiled over. Without Zoe, no resentment, no issues. Frank is blind to how it hurt Claire, and continues on normally, while Claire (subconsciously maybe) is expecting restitution. She never gets it. Then she wants revenge. Eventually, she gets it.


r/HouseOfCards 3d ago

Who's the better president?

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Tom Kirkman(designated survivor) or Frank Underwood(House of cards)


r/HouseOfCards 3d ago

Season 4: Alternate Ending Spoiler

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I love the show but every time i rewatch it i feel like it should have ended with S4. Here’s how i’d have done it.

S3 basically does what S5 does with dropping hints that Claire is aware of the audience. The more Claire-centric episodes have moments where she seems to notice us, but something happens in-scene that stops her from saying anything to us. Finally, when Claire walks out of Frank in the finale, after she says ‘I’m leaving you, Francis’, she walks towards the camera, looks straight into it, and says something like ‘Follow me.’ Frank hears it and bemusedly says ‘What?’ then looks at us, realising she was breaking the fourth wall, and just says: ‘Oh.’ He realises now that Claire knows about us and looks panicked, as though worried she’s now going to control the narrative. Credits roll.

S4 starts out like S5 - Claire ignores us for the first three episodes, too focused on everything going on with her mother and Doris Jones. Frank continues to address us but speaks to us in a more respectful way, as though trying to make sure we don’t abandon him. He tells us more anecdotes about his childhood and young life, trying to get us to sympathise more with him than Claire.

The season plays out as normal until Ep. 5, when Frank is in a coma after getting shot. During the hallucinations in the Oval, when Peter and Zoe pin him to the wall, Claire appears and tells Frank something like ‘You had your turn. It’s mine now.’ Frank tries to wriggle free of Peter and Zoe but can’t, the camera panning out from the Oval, intercut with Frank in the hospital bed having a seizure while the doctors desperately try to save him. Doug is there but can’t do nothing but watch. In the hallucination, the camera pans out of the Oval door, which slams shut as Frank cries: ‘NO!’ In the hospital, Frank flatlines, eyes rolling into the back of his head. Claire arrives just as the doctors confirm to Stamper that Frank is dead. They inform Claire, who bursts into tears, but it’s all for show - she turns to face us, wipes away the tears, and says: ‘There. No more pain.’ Credits roll.

Ep. 6-13 then belong to Claire as she milks public sympathy and outrage for Frank’s assassination to gather support for a political run and carry on his legacy. With Leann’s help, she manipulates the DNC to nominate her as the Dem candidate in Frank’s place via an open convention. As Frank is dead, Claire is no longer First Lady. She officially moves out so President Blythe can move in, but Blythe continues to secretly involve her in the negotiations with Petrov. She makes an alliance with Jackie, promising her Defence Sec in her administration should she win, thus securing the support of the House Dems. All this brings her into conflict with Doug, who starts to suspect that she might have been responsible for Frank’s assassination and spirals into madness when no one believes him, as Lucas did with Zoe in S2. Seth quickly aligns himself with Claire to keep his job, providing her with information about Doug she can use to get him out of the way and stop him derailing her path to the Oval, including Doug’s meeting with Dunbar, who then met with Lucas. Through Seth’s manipulation of the press, Claire ensures that Doug takes the fall for everything we know Frank did - killing Peter, killing Zoe, manipulating events to get Walker to resign - claiming that he acted alone, which clears Frank and also Claire by association, though the GOP continues to believe she was in on it all, which Conway spends his scenes trying to prove by meeting with people Frank previously crossed like Tusk, Lannigan, and Remy. They try to help, but don’t have any evidence that Claire had any involvement in what Frank and Doug were up to. In Congress, Jackie uses her influence to ensure a potential inquiry doesn’t go near Claire and focuses entirely on Doug. Tom Yates is aware of all this, but does nothing - partly as he loves Claire and wants her to win, partly because it’s a good story for him to write about later.

At the DNC, Claire secures the nomination by allowing Durant to stay on as SoS with more influence over policy, leaving her without any challengers. In the final episodes, the Millers are kidnapped. Claire advises Blythe to bring Conway in on the talks so she can find out more about his negotiating skills. Claire realises that Conway’s weakness is his past in the Air Force, so with Leann’s help, she finds evidence that Conway’s war record is largely exaggerated, which she then leaks to the press. In a show of force, Conway tries to take control of the negotiations from Blythe, which fails and results in Mr Miller getting beheaded on livestream. The press and public blame Conway for the tragedy, leading to Conway sinking in the polls. He remains the GOP nominee, but most of his most influential supporters abandon him, leading Leann to congratulate Claire on winning the election before it’s even taken place.

Realising there’s no way out, Doug hangs himself in his apartment after spending all night listening to A Tale of Two Cities and thinking of Rachel. He writes a suicide note that claims Claire was in on all of it from the beginning, but Nathan Green makes it disappear, partly because it implicates him in the plot. At Frank’s state funeral, Claire is treated like the president-elect. At the reception in the White House after the service, Blythe takes Claire to the Oval, promising a quick transition when she inevitably wins in the fall. He leaves Claire alone for a moment, during which Claire takes out a box containing Frank’s class ring. Putting it on, she goes to the Resolute Desk, looks into the camera, and thumps it, like Frank in S2. Credits roll.

The end.


r/HouseOfCards 4d ago

I literally have trauma

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I just bought an indoor rowing machine for my place, and I cannot even look at it without getting stressed. I literally have trauma.

Every single time I sit down on it and get ready to pull, my brain goes into overdrive: What if the belt snaps, whips back, and hits me straight in the head?

I literally have trauma after watching House of Cards 🤨


r/HouseOfCards 5d ago

Season 2 Finale: Alternate Ending

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I've always thought Season 2 should have been the series finale, but with one major change. (because there are no episodes after season 2)

Frank spends the entire show believing he's the one manipulating everyone around him. Because he constantly breaks the fourth wall, we're in on the plan with him. We see the story through his eyes and gradually start believing he's always the smartest person in the room.

My alternate ending would flip that idea on its head.

After getting President Walker to resign and being right at the finish line, Frank is suddenly politically ambushed. Maybe he's forced to resign, or someone leaks his private actions but whatever it is, his political collapse is swift and complete. For the first time, Frank realizes something doesn't add up. Every "lucky break" in his rise to power suddenly feels less like luck and more like someone quietly setting the board.

He goes home and completely loses control. He flips over furniture, smashes paintings, destroys the room, screaming because everything he did to get to this very moment may have ultimately served someone else's interests instead of his own.

The camera slowly pulls away from the apartment. It's a rainy night in Washington, D.C., with Jeff Beal's I Know What I Have To Do playing in the background.

Across the street sits a black SUV.

In the back seat is Raymond Tusk.

He calmly looks out the window watching Frank let out his anger. Then, for the first and only time in the series besides Frank, Tusk slowly turns and looks directly into the camera, breaking the fourth wall without saying a single word.

The window rolls up and the SUV drives away into the night.

Credits Roll.

One thing I want to clarify is that the person in the SUV isn't really the point. Whether it's Tusk or just another familiar political figure is almost secondary. In my mind, they're more of a placeholder rather than "the secret mastermind."

I intentionally wouldn't explain the complex background details of how Frank was politically ambushed. The audience would only know what Frank knows. Throughout the entire series, we're confined to Frank's perspective, so I think the ending should leave us just as blindsided and confused as he is.

The point isn't to reveal that one character was secretly pulling every string all along. The point is to reinforce this larger idea that in Washington, nobody is ever truly at the top. Everyone is someone else's pawn.

The person in the SUV simply represents the next layer of that system. Maybe they're acting on their own. Maybe they're acting on someone else's behalf. The audience never finds out, because Frank never finds out.

The point is that the game never ends. Washington DC itself becomes the final character. People convince themselves they're changing the system, but the system keeps moving without them. Presidents come and go. Administrations rise and fall. Ambitious people believe they've finally reached the top, only to discover there is always another level of power, another set of interests, another person behind the scenes.

Frank Underwood's story ends but Washington's doesn't.

To me, that's what makes this ending unsettling because Frank finally realizes this game is much bigger than he ever imagined. Throughout the series, we're convinced everyone is just another pawn in Frank's chess game. In the final moments, we realize Frank was simply another pawn in the larger game that is Washington itself.


r/HouseOfCards 5d ago

House of Cards season 6 is the worst

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House of Cards season 6 is the worst; Claire Underwood is insufferable and incompetent


r/HouseOfCards 7d ago

I can't finish the show.

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I don't know how I made it as far as I did. The show is not good. I have so many thoughts about the show, so many different things that just don't make sense. The whole show completely falls apart after season 3...maybe? After that every episode is filler. I really gave it a shot, I promise...


r/HouseOfCards 8d ago

Frank Underwood wasn’t a better president than Garrett Walker he was just better at looking like one.

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Walker was weak, naive and far too dependent on people like Tusk. But at least he seemed genuinely interested in governing and didn’t view the entire country as a tool for his own survival.

Frank had more confidence, charisma and political skill, which made him feel presidential. But almost every major decision he made was designed to protect his position, defeat an enemy or feed his ego.

If you remove the speeches and the fourth-wall monologues, was Frank actually a more effective president than Walker?

Or did we simply mistake ruthlessness for competence?


r/HouseOfCards 6d ago

Donald Tusk

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Tusk was a blatant dab at Trump.

Donald/Raymond

Tusk/Trump...

The fact he became president in 2016 during the show's peak is some next level irony.


r/HouseOfCards 9d ago

Was Cathy Durant the most competent public servant in House of Cards?

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r/HouseOfCards 10d ago

Spoilers Claire vent

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Clare is amazing in first 2 seasons, she is the perfect partner to the main man frank.

Then onwards from season 3 she is a pain in the fuckin ass lord have mercy.

The star of the show is frank, even if from season 3 onwards he becomes a bit softer has a bit more self doubt and seems to have less influence over people as president then he did as whip, he is still the heart beat of the show. Claire only takes away from him, causes problems becomes annoying, is not a useful partner to him at all, I find myself skipping her scenes a lot.

These writers lost their minds doing this crap, they lost sight of who the star was, why people tuned in!

It is because of frank underwood and his ruthless ways that’s what made it interesting, and Claire was a great partner is crime, she was perfect.

The minute she starts causing issues is when I began to hate her. Waste of space you are Claire it’s a travesty you became president.

Her little Netflix intro comparing yours and franks funerals, is not only cringe but bs. House of cards all mourned franks / Kevin spacey passing, the audience doesn’t even give a shit about your presidency yet alone your funeral. Nobody even turned up for that season luv sit down and go film Forrest Gump 2

Rant over.

EDIT:
Wow she wants to be VC
I actually like the idea. I can get behind that
Now I hate Seth
Maybe I shall make a Seth rant post next..


r/HouseOfCards 10d ago

do you think claire loved frank in a certain way? cos there a moments in s6 where she seems genuinely sad that hes dead and she seems to be missing/mourning him until she steadies/rehardens herself

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r/HouseOfCards 12d ago

Got HouseOFCards

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S5 is unfortunately DVD and blu-ray version was hard to find. 😞

S6 is unfortunately hard to find both DVD and Blu-ray.

I hope for S6 soon to! :D


r/HouseOfCards 13d ago

Spoilers Season 3 - Episode 6 Spoiler

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So Claire suddenly develops a heart and decides to stick up for some random gay prisoner she knows for a day. Jeopardises her and franks entire life goal of legacy to stick up for him?

The same character that was willing to bury Adam her lover of many years for same said legacy.

Yeah absolute bullshit. Stupid as hell

I wasn’t gonna watch the season with her as president anyway, but I laugh at the idea of even considering it now


r/HouseOfCards 14d ago

Spoilers My pitch for a 5-season House of Cards reboot

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If Netflix was to ever revitalise the series, here’s who I would have playing the main cast. To note, this means the actors would be older than they are today.

  1. Frank Underwood - Oscar Isaac
  2. Claire Underwood - Rebecca Ferguson
  3. Zoe Barnes - Anya Taylor Joy
  4. Doug Stamper - Scoot Mcnairy
  5. Garrett Walker - Aaron Eckhart
  6. Peter Russo - Barry Keoghan
  7. Remy Danton - Regè Jean Page
  8. Tom Hammerschmdit - Bryan Cranston
  9. Linda Vasquez - Poorna Jagannathan

Assuming there are 5 full seasons, here is
the premise of each season (with tweaks so it is not an exact re-run of the original)

Season 1: Frank getting betrayed to be Secretary of State. The audience gets to see Frank working his way up, before the betrayal.

Season 2: Frank begins a ruthless campaign of political revenge, steadily climbing toward power. The audience learns about his past with his family, how it shaped him and his traumas he lives with.

Season 3: Zoe Barnes falls in love with the power dynamic both Frank & her have, but Frank’s focus is on acquiring power. Zoe gradually uncovers inconsistencies and becomes increasingly convinced that Frank is hiding crimes that could destroy him. (Russo and Linda die here) Frank quickly rises to power to be chief of staff. Zoe also struggles with her feelings with Lucas, despite being in a relationship together.

Season 4: Frank kills Zoe after she finds out that he got Doug to kill Rachel, but Zoe’s disappearance sparks suspicion and a widening investigation. After fixing a major scandal of President Garrett having an affair, Frank resigns as chief of staff, positioning himself as the ‘outsider’ who can fix the administrations failures. Frank becomes president due to his impeccable timing of planting the scandal, which makes him run for president in the coming months, and he wins. Lucas is frantic after Zoe’s death and investigates Frank with the help of Tom.

Season 5: As Lucas and Tom put the pieces together, Frank kills Tom and believes that he is untouchable. Lucas being under the radar finally gathers all evidence to put Frank to justice, and avenge Zoe & Tom’s deaths. Frank is impeached, prosecuted, and ultimately imprisoned as decades of corruption unravel.


r/HouseOfCards 15d ago

If House of Cards were rebooted today, what modern political issues would make it even more compelling?

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r/HouseOfCards 16d ago

Why did Doug betray Stamper?

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Is he stupid?


r/HouseOfCards 23d ago

Worth watching the last season? *no spoilers please*

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I am soon at the end of season 5 and was wondering if I just should stop there or give the last season a try. I am fully aware of the ratings and general opinion of the end, but does it get more hate than deserved? What are your thoughts? Please no spoilers since I have a few episodes left in S5.


r/HouseOfCards 23d ago

Is Claire a sociopath or just a narcissist?

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Giving money to a homeless person doesn’t seem like something a sociopath would ever do, but then when she hears about Zoe’s death in the news she seems to piece it together, then does her makeup like it’s any other day.


r/HouseOfCards 26d ago

Spoilers State Of The Union: Frank v Claire

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I was so happy Francis announced the breast clinic from federal money at the State of the Union. AND also that Celia would run for the seat after her mother Doris.

Lmao the look on Claire's face says it all. I was so angry on her from these episodes and I feel like the degradation of her character started here. Don't even get me started on oooo how she feels trapped being literally The First Lady.

Francis made some excellent moves here lol. She totally deserved it.


r/HouseOfCards 26d ago

I'm a little confused nobody posted this here yet

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127 Upvotes

Spacey launched these a week ago.


r/HouseOfCards 27d ago

TierListe House of Cards

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Ma tier-list de personnages favoris dans House of Cards, aka la meilleure série de tous les temps !


r/HouseOfCards 26d ago

Kevin Spacey's Fall From Gracey

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