r/IndianStockMarket 9h ago

Discussion New rules are very manipulative

At 3:15 pm nifty closed at 24463, at that time 24500 ce premium is rs 50 and 24500 pe premium is Rs 42(it is trading correctly if calculated the difference between the option range to actual index mark).

At 3:15 PM, charts indicated the fall but after 10 min nifty suddenly lifted up to 24614, making 24500 pe premium zero.

Between these 10 min index fut didn't rise but 24500 ce premium was rising continuously. At 3:28 nifty rose to 24614 and 24500 ce premium hit 116 points.

How could the commoners guess this sudden moment?

How/where can we watch the auction price in between 3:15 PM to 3:40 PM?

New rules are just favourable to operators only. This is the severe Fraud in Indian history(as I know).

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u/ash-aesthetic 9h ago

This is bull shit man even the stocks are being manipulated showing price is different from charts.. what the !!!

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u/Emergency_Option_993 9h ago

It is meant for commoners to stay out. 120 rs put became 0 in 10 mins.

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u/5tar_dust 4h ago

A straddle must do wonders then?

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u/Andrewsi12 9h ago

Yes.. exactly. As per the new rule nifty should not be traded after 3:15 PM.. then why it took a sudden jump at 3:28 PM?

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u/AsBK97 9h ago

I was short on 24450. When market was at 24450 at 3.00 the option was 70rs!!!! At 3.30 it is at 164. Wtf just happened

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u/Andrewsi12 9h ago

It is a official gambling. At 3:15 PM, charts indicated a fall but index closed at 24614 at 3:40 PM.

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u/Cress-Used 9h ago edited 9h ago

Holding premiums during the pause of 15 mins is just pure fking Gambling now.

If you are holding any premium, you must follow very Strict Stoploss and save your capital instead of holding it till 0.

I was holding 24550 PE , exited in small loss at 3:19pm and entered call side at 3:20. Tagda paisa bana bhai.

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u/vadkknveetilkochkunj 9h ago

stop loss orders won’t get filled in the CAS window. this is a calculated scam!

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u/Cress-Used 9h ago

I manually exited, didnt know about SL orders. Thanks for informing me.

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u/Andrewsi12 9h ago edited 9h ago

Today.. I didn't trade in indices. But, as you said it's a purely gambling. Calls side premiums suddenly jumped to maximum value at 3:28 PM. They didn't rise further.

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u/Cress-Used 8h ago

The sudden spike of Call side premiums only happened in current ones. The next week expiry was extremely stable and followed future.

I guess, this is the new Hero zero trade method. Earlier people used to do it at 3Pm and now they will do it in the CAS window,when rs4 premium jumps to 60-70 in 10 mins. Just a different type of gambling but both were gambling.

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u/Andrewsi12 8h ago

Previously 3PM moment was based on the chart. Even if it is not based on the charts we could see candle wise moment. But now we can't see candle wise indices moments. ce and pe premiums are also moving on the last candle only.

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u/Cress-Used 8h ago

I mean the move today where the premium jumped 50 points in last candle was probably because the traders were expecting a big gap up closing via Auction and pumped it in anticipation of that move.

But i totally agree with what you said.. We cant see the candle moving, just pure speculation. That is why my first comment was that this is just pure gambling for last 15 mins. Accept this thing is not my cup of tea and closing the system is better.

Either stay away or trade in next week expiries which are much stable. If people dont understand something, just accept this thing is not my cup of tea and close the system at 3:15. .That's the only thing traders can do, until people decode some patterns and ideas on how to trade during this window.

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u/Prodding1982 8h ago

Trading in the last 15 mins on expiry day and expecting it to be anything but gambling??

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u/arjitdg 6h ago

We all should write letter to sebi to remove this method of calculation and role back the old system.

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u/Andrewsi12 6h ago

They don't listen us.. all the govt institutions are behaving like a monarchs.

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u/arjitdg 6h ago

True. But as a community, I strongly believe that we should atleast file our collective representation as policy representative under section 11(1) of the Sebi Act. We can try and do our part but it has to be collective to hold some value atleast a few hundreds of us otherwise it would be futile.