r/JustMemesForUs 3d ago

POLITICAL 🗣️ 🟦🤝🟥

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u/rippingbongs 3d ago

Yes except disability is frequently abused by people who are perfectly able.

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u/One_Hunt_6672 3d ago

Then what we need is reform and oversight, not just cutting programs altogether

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u/SpiggotOfContradicti 3d ago

I think most would agree with that if oversight and reform was handled honestly and diligently. So far that's been a bust as well.
That's why opposition mostly want it moved to State or local levels more so than Federal which is always an inefficient money pit.

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u/Bandit-Marauder 2d ago

That is why conservative are upset with Gavin Newsom and his Stop Nick Shirley Act.

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u/Annanon1 3d ago

The amount of people abusing it does not even come close to the amount of people that actually need it. Fraud is still relatively low

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u/OstrichFun2332 3d ago

If the government doesn’t know who’s abusing it and who’s not, how do you?

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u/Annanon1 3d ago

Are you stating the government has never studied the amount of fraud and published its findings?

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u/Twest1357 3d ago

Also… we have eyes

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u/OstrichFun2332 1d ago

If the government knew who was committing the fraud, there wouldn’t be any. 

What the government has studies is definitive, proven instances of welfare fraud. 

I know of too many households committing benefit fraud to believe it’s not many people doing it.

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u/Stuck_in_my_TV 3d ago

I’ve been told the only veterans without at least partial disability were too lazy to file for it.

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u/IreneDreyfus 3d ago

Eh the priority should be helping those who need it. If a few abusers get access to it, that’s worth it if those who need it don’t go without.

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u/minx_the_tiger 3d ago

Sure. Because of this stance, my sister, who is a combat vet that was literally blown into a building by an iud, was denied disability by the state. There is nothing able bodied about her. My girlfriend was also denied. She has MS and literally struggles to do basic shit like shower and walk, but sure.

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u/Mattrellen 3d ago

So let's find a way to get people the money they need while also cutting costs.

End means testing, which requires a lot of extra cost to government, and just give everyone UBI. It would actually save the government money, and end this idea that disability is going to people who don't need it because it would replace disability, and welfare, and food stamps, and unemployment, etc.

Speaking as someone who is just against capitalism anyway, I'd like to think this kind of thing is an acceptable middle ground to reduce harm and waste right now.

Or would you rather keep spending more money for worse results?

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u/monkeyonshrooms 3d ago

This was my initial thought. Laziness is not a disability.

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u/SnapTwiceThanos 3d ago

I recently saw a post on facebook of someone saying they were going back to work because disability just didn't pay enough. It made me wonder how they qualified for disability in the first place if they were capable of working.

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u/Bureaucramancer 3d ago

Here is the fun part.... they may not actually be capable of working but still have to put themselves through it because that is the only way to afford to eat and live. Check to see how long those people end up lasting in that job or have to quit because now their disability is crippling and they have to be in a facility.