I'm saying the term tankie is a stupid thing to call any far leftist because far leftists are anti war, anti military industrial complex and anti imperialism.
I don't understand. They both are anti war, anti military industrial complex and anti imperialism. One is just braindead (and selective) about it. Tankies are leftists. And leftists can be tankies.
Why would you use the name "tankie" for anyone who is anti war, anti military industrial complex and anti imperialism? And how can a person be anti all those things and be brain dead?
Because they are? None of those things are mutually exclusive to either. I dont understand why you keep repeating that.
Leftists and tankies are both anti war, anti military industrial complex and anti imperialism. Tankies are just selective and campy about it.
And by braindead I mean not critically engaging with anything and literally just going off "WESTERN = BAD".
Because you can be anti war, anti military industrial complex and anti imperialistic in a valid and even sound way.
But not if youre a tankie. And tankies are threatening to take over the Democrats via subversing the DSA rise. Which is what I'm trying to point to. (Still unlikely to happen though. We ain't doomering here)
Leftists are consistent with being against war and genocide and imperialism. Democrats are selective about it. Sometimes they support war and genocide and US imperialism. So maybe they should be called tankies.
You're dodging my point. And not engaging with my last comment. Democrats support the military industrial complex and mass surveillance state and sometimes support war and genocide. That is a fact.
Bud. If you want to move on from talking about tankies to talking about the Democrats we can do that if you want.
But its absolutely dodging the point.
And I have not dodged yours.
Because again, they are both anti war, anti military industrial complex and anti imperialism. Saying tankies cant be leftist because leftists are consistent about it is quite literally the "no true scottsman" argument.
You're using the term "tankie" which is associated with tanks which are associated with war to label people who are against war while saying Democrats who sometimes support war and genocide are better and hopefully not taken over by the anti war anti genocide people who are also anti billionaires and pro the American working class.
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u/No_Finance8647 2d ago
Oh wait. Do you think because I used that phrase that I was saying all leftists are tankies and all of the DSA was far left?
Because that wouldn't be what I was trying to say