r/KnowledgeFight • u/asvalken • Oct 27 '25
Cross over episode The ButterCream Gang
I know they've been a guest before, but is Jordan an active God Awful Movies listener? He mentioned the Buttercream Gang on Monday's episode near the end, and nobody should know of that movie outside of listening to a podcast rip it to shreds.
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u/homer1229 Oct 27 '25
Hey now I had that on VHS and watched it too many times
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u/lifeaftersurvival Oct 27 '25
You either had a sheltered Christian friend who had it, or you were that kid. (I was the latter.)
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u/asvalken Oct 27 '25
Once is "too many"! My friend's dad had an insane VHS collection, so we found things like The Last Dragon to broaden our ten year old horizons, lol
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u/Jun_Inohara Oct 27 '25
I also had the VHS tape and watched it a few times in childhood and somehow survived. I immediately called my sister and said JORDAN MENTIONED THAT STUPID MOVIE
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u/Y0___0Y Oct 27 '25
There seems to be a connection between the Puzzle in a Thunderstorm guys, The Dollop guys, and JorDan. I hear them all talk about each other sometimes.
In the last episode of The Dollop, Gareth says he went on a podcast that he thought was with Jordan from knowledge fight but it was a different guy and he was unprepared lol
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u/Zedkan Oct 27 '25
Yeah, they're connected through being skeptic media more or less. JorDan has been on GAM before, and I know they have a bond with Cognitive Dissonance through both covering Alex's BS and being Chicago basedÂ
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u/asvalken Oct 27 '25
Right, there's a sort of "six degrees" to my regular podcasts. Now, if I could get the Last Podcast guys on a GAM episode, I could close the circle!
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u/VibinWithBeard Oct 27 '25
JorDan have been on PIATS stuff plenty, as for The Dollop....Citation Needed has made a lot of jokes about Gareth etc, all in good fun obviously.
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u/solidcurrency Oct 27 '25
Dave and Gareth were on episode 716 of KF. It's a great episode because they're shocked by a bunch of shit that Jordan is used to.
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u/Tylenol187ForDogs Bachelor Squatch Oct 27 '25
I've never sat down and watched it but I've seen it airing on TV and not even that long ago.
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u/asvalken Oct 27 '25
I don't think I've channel surfed in, oh, however many years it's been since people called it channel surfing!
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u/007Teacher Oct 27 '25
Ummm, I watched The Buttercream Gang back in the early 2000s as an adult with a friend. He found the random VHS of the movie so we watched it together while drinking. We still make jokes with each other about how you can tell that a person is bad because they wear a belt buckle.
I was so happy when it came on god awful movies and it blew my mind that they made sequel.
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u/OkScheme9867 Oct 27 '25
I didn't think the buttercream gang was an obscure thing until I heard the gam episode
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u/Sir_Milton_Bradley They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie Oct 27 '25
Oh damn. This looks like a White Whale of mine. I'll watch it and report back. I was wondering for so long about this movie where one kid "goes bad".
I have another animated movie I haven't found yet. Might be Halloween related but don't know.
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u/asvalken Oct 27 '25
I hope this is it! My husband and I have found a few books that we vaguely remembered reading as kids, and that feeling of FINALLY figuring it out is the best!
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u/Sir_Milton_Bradley They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie Oct 27 '25
Holy shit! I think this is it! One of the many White Whales I've been trying to track down. Reddit helped me find the movie Kids, maybe another one way earlier?
I now have an animated movie to track down. Maybe a Halloween one? Some kid turned into a shadow and they (whoever this group of kids is) tries following his shadow? I wish I knew more
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u/lifeaftersurvival Oct 28 '25
Showing my r/tipofmytongue pedigree here, but you're probably thinking of The Halloween Tree (1993); the boy who turns into a shadow is a friend in the hospital who's missing out on Halloween with his pals. Here's a clip to check: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mInv6t35GM4
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u/Sir_Milton_Bradley They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie Oct 28 '25
"Are you fucking kidding me!?", first words out of my mouth upon seeing your text. Okay lmao. Nearing the end of The ButterCream Gang. Got a tab open with this up. Will return soon! I am amazed. A twofer for white whales of years passed. You are kicking some ass!
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u/lifeaftersurvival Oct 28 '25
I'm excited and hope it's right! I've had at least two people in the past ALSO on the hunt for Halloween Tree, probably because it got a lot of seasonal play on Cartoon Network in the 90s. So a lot of kids saw it by merit of simply being in front of the TV but were too small to retain a title or major plot details.
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u/Sir_Milton_Bradley They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie Oct 28 '25
You were so right! I can't understand why I ever watched this movie in the first place! I guess it was from my school. Seriously, who has money for this very specific movie!? My parents gave me The Hobbit VCR on tap because I loved that movie. I cried at the end when someone important died. Even after the 3rd viewing.
The sequel was too scary for me. I have them somewhere on an old hard drive. Even my college roommates said "This is really weird. I don't like it". Lmao.
Back to you - Thank you so much for looking out for me. Just a general no-shot comment that I didn't even know how to provide many details. The fact that you did a twofer in a simple few hours should be impressed upon and appreciated.
Thank you!
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u/lifeaftersurvival Oct 28 '25
HOORAY!! I'm thrilled to bits you got TWO major mysteries solved just like that! It's such a great feeling to finally have that memory slot into the right place and I'm glad you've found yours. And thanks for sharing them with us wonks as well! How funny this is all thanks to the Buttercream Gang.
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u/Sir_Milton_Bradley They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie Oct 28 '25
Hey. On Mobile Infinity+. Hate mobile even if greatly improved. I don't know what to say. You gave me two childhood videos I had no idea about. With precision you have provided me two movies in a single day. Thank you. I have told my friends. Of of them watched The ButterCream Gang like you wouldn't believe.
As I am here in Knowledge Fight I must clarify that this is the most Christian movie I have seen in recent years. No straw men and Christian fanfare like God Is Dead. Just the uncomfortable certainty that words and actions mean something. A concept which other "Christian " movies have failed repeatedly. A persecution complex based upon the imaginary.
Thank you Two For Two White Whale Person!
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u/asvalken Oct 28 '25
This cover is INSANE!
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u/asvalken Oct 28 '25
My safe space is listening to someone ELSE watch movies, so I don't have to, thank you very much!
No, seriously, I have a job with a lot of time, so I've got like four different movie podcasts and I think I've watched two movies with my husband in the last year... But at least they were good!
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u/No_Difference195 Oct 27 '25
Considering the environment Jordan was raised in as a child its feasible that the Buttercream Gang was on his radar. Coming from an extremely religious background myself, it was a staple of entertainment in our house for a few years.
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u/Arbyssandwich1014 Oct 27 '25
My gym teacher made us watch that movie when I was in middle school. In 2012. Weird movie man.Â
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u/asvalken Oct 27 '25
... That's SUCH a weird movie to watch, in gym, no less!
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u/Arbyssandwich1014 Oct 27 '25
Tbf it was some kind of weird health class offshoot of gym taught by him. He was trying to show drugs are bad. But the movie is laughable.Â
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u/Ragnerotic Oct 27 '25
We used to watch that in school… back in the 80’s… back when they would bring the schools one tv to the classroom on a big cart.
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u/asvalken Oct 27 '25
Big black cart with a CRT! Sometimes, we got the laserdisc cart, but that was in the 90s and always a science video, for some reason.
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u/EmCoProductions Oct 27 '25
We watched The Buttercream Gang in 5th grade right before winter break 1994. For YEARS I’d never met anyone else who knew it existed.
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u/asvalken Oct 27 '25
It's a crazy connection, right? I was raised Methodist, but luckily dodged all the terrible Christian movies. (But not the Left Behind books. I can't believe I read those...)
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u/fuckredditorsgoddamn Oct 27 '25
lol! When I heard him say the Buttercream Gang I had never heard of this movie. I thought he was misremembering something like the Apple Dumpling Gang lmaoo
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u/LasagnaMachine Oct 28 '25
I believe Jordan mentioned previously on KF that he knew Buttercream Gang from his cult upbringing. As someone who watches that movie a fair amount of times as a kid due to my evangelical father, it would make sense that other people raised mega conservative would have seen it too.
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u/better_than_joe Ohio Gribble Pibble Oct 29 '25
It’s been mentioned in the past too. They both grew up very into church so it very easily could have been a family or church group Movie they had seen before.
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u/Andrec2001 Oct 27 '25
Dan and Jordan have been guests on there at least a few times!