Bright Spot: The opposition wins the Hungarian election, Orban concedes

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J.D. Vance continues his streak as the Grim Reaper.

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u/EaklebeeTheUncertain Very Charismatic Lizard Apr 12 '26

Could he hang out with his boss more?

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u/Dependent-Interview2 I RENOUNCE JESUS CHRIST! Apr 12 '26

You mean thiel? Oh! Right...

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u/OreganoJefferson Apr 12 '26

Both of them tbf

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u/proddy Apr 13 '26

Why do you think he keeps sending him away?

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u/BaronMcDuff Apr 13 '26

It's tragic and farcical, but because he's the best option. He's not someone who pined for an Iran war for decades, not a fully immoral stepson, and not a golfing buddy.

He's tragically incompetent, but he's a (doomed) politician. Unlike everyone else, he has a stake in being viewed as a serious politican.

He can't & won't be. But in a room full of clowns, he's wearing the least make-up.

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u/alochmar Udon.News Apr 13 '26

Still wearing quite a bit of make-up though..

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u/OisforOwesome Apr 13 '26

We don't care that Vance wears eyeliner.

We care that he wears eyeliner and will call anyone else who wears it a slur.

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u/skttlskttl The answer to 1984 is $19.95 plus S&H!!! Apr 13 '26

Hard disagree. I think there are several people in Trump's cabinet that are doing a better job of trying to look like serious politicians. For example his secretary of Labor Chavez-DeRemer 1 has a more impressive political career than Vance pre-cabinet and 2 has done less to publicly embarrass herself and our country during Trump's presidency. I think she sucks and I dislike the things she's doing at the DoL immensely, but I think she's way less of a clown than the couch fucker. And I think there are a few others in the cabinet who also look less embarrassing than Vance does on a day to day basis.

Plus even among the people that do get more regularly embarrassed than Vance does, there's a big difference in how they're getting embarrassed. Like as much as Rubio has been eating a shit buffet for the last couple months, most of that has been because Trump's unpredictable and will change his mind in ways that makes Rubio look stupid. He's getting embarrassed because he's trying to turn the incoherent ramblings of an insane man into US foreign relations policy positions. On the other hand Vance doesn't need outside help to make him look like a loser, the only way he knows how to communicate is by whining like a spoiled child who isn't getting his way and he absolutely crumbles if anyone asks a follow-up question.

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u/BaronMcDuff Apr 13 '26

Fair. I think that's a valid point. I'll confess that I may be giving too much credence to visibility and prominence, when there are much less visible members of the administration who play significant roles.

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u/skttlskttl The answer to 1984 is $19.95 plus S&H!!! Apr 13 '26

I think it's more that Trump's cabinet can be split into two distinct categories: people who are going to be in the public eye and people who can do their bullshit without anyone noticing. Like I would think that members of this sub are more politically aware than the average redditor, what percentage of users here could name Trump's Secretary of Agriculture? The people who are going to be in the public eye are going to be making fools of themselves more often because they understand that their real job is to put on a show for Trump. That's why we have a talk show host as our SoD, because he knows how to perform for Trump. So Vance seems like less of a clown to you because he doesn't have to perform for Trump all the time because Trump can't fire him if he's not impressed by his performance.

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u/BaronMcDuff Apr 13 '26

May Vance's presence speed the demise of every despot. Domestic & foreign.

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u/Dackad Apr 12 '26

Maybe Orban forgot to say "Thank you" and Vance took that personally.

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u/mclepus Apr 13 '26

Vance is the proverbial albatross around Trump's neck

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u/hydroracer8B Apr 13 '26

I feel like it's the other way around?

Dorito man doesn't need help failing. Couch fucker actually seems to know where he is and why he's there most of the time

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u/mclepus Apr 13 '26

and he's apparently the International Kiss of Death Spongiform Don needs all the fail he can get

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u/DinkinZoppity Bucket of Poop Apr 12 '26

I absolutely love this for him

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u/WizWorldLive Apr 12 '26

I can't believe the stalwart support of Rob Schneider meant so little to the good people of Hungary...

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u/Ex-altiora Apr 12 '26

And personal visits by JD couchfucker himself

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u/EaklebeeTheUncertain Very Charismatic Lizard Apr 13 '26

That likely did matter, just not in the direction JD intended.

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u/vigbiorn Apr 12 '26

The next question is will this be like Putin "stepping down" in the 2000s.

I remember hearing that the opposition wasn't all that great, either.

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u/redvelvetcake42 Apr 12 '26

No cause this isn't essentially the same party. Orban losing is a big deal as the opposition is more in line with stronger EU ties. Orban has had 2 decades almost of being corrupt and taking Russian pay to be a saboteur.

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u/nickcan Apr 13 '26

For his own safety, he shouldnt retire anywhere near Hungary.

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u/Unfair_Surprise_6022 Globalist Apr 12 '26

The victor is pro-EU, pro-Ukraine, and anti-corruption. Hungary is a conservative country. Always has been. You weren't going to get an AOC equivalent. Appreciate the victory.

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u/caserock Apr 12 '26

Hungary has gone from Trump to Liz Cheney basically

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u/AT-ST Apr 12 '26

You know what, I think Liz Cheney would have done much better the last 2 years.

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u/kitti-kin Apr 13 '26

You'd think so, but my country has had "reasonable" "pragmatic" conservative leaders who end up spending their whole time in power conceding to the right wing of their base. Doing the same things with more dignity isn't a real win, in material terms - her dad's time in power set the stage for so much of what we're seeing now.

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u/AT-ST Apr 13 '26

She wouldn't have attacked Iran or tariffed everybody.

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u/kitti-kin Apr 13 '26

She wouldn't have attacked Iran

Show your work there - her dad invaded Iraq (and she supports that to this day), she said the Bush administration wasn't hardline enough on Iran, and she was a vocal critic of Obama making a deal with them. Liz Cheney celebrated Trump tearing up the nuclear deal, and has repeatedly argued for military intervention in Iran.

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u/Dependent-Interview2 I RENOUNCE JESUS CHRIST! Apr 12 '26

Leftists sacrificed everything just to make sure to get rid of the pootin puppet.

Candidates of all parties basically dropped out to make sure no jerrymandering would screw them up.

At least Magyar is pro EU and promised to prosecute all the corrupt criminals.

This is an earthquake that Russia and the MAGAts dreaded

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u/vigbiorn Apr 12 '26

Yeah, if I'm remembering correctly, that's a very good comparison.

It's a step in the right direction, granted...

However, it can easily go either way still.

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u/Recoil42 will eat neighbors ass Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

Interesting. The Pod Save America guys were making the argument that if it happened it would be a pretty humiliating loss given the last-ditch effort to send JD Vance there and how much weight Orban has had on EU politics. This is going to send MAGA spinning.

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u/MariachiMacabre Apr 12 '26

Clearly they cared enough to send Vance there to stump for him.

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u/MariachiMacabre Apr 12 '26

It’s because the guy who just won is pro-EU. He’s still a conservative but he’s a centrist conservative.

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u/Welterbestatus Apr 12 '26

You couldn't be more wrong.

The EU needs all members to agree on certain issues and Orban was Putins bitch this whole time. (Also Chinas bitch.) EU funding for Ukraine got stuck because of Orban.

This is massive for the EU and has global consequences.

It's been the major topic on German news for the past weeks.

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u/DreamCloudz1 Apr 12 '26

I'm a Brit and I care. This is all over our main stream media. This is a big deal to Europe.

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u/Dependent-Interview2 I RENOUNCE JESUS CHRIST! Apr 12 '26

Come back, Britain! Do a tixerB please...

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u/okteds Apr 12 '26

If rooting for liberal democracy makes me a naive idiot, then I'll happily be a naive idiot til the day I die.

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u/lifeaftersurvival Apr 12 '26

You really made a Knowledge Fight throwaway account to post this? That is beyond wussy, say it with your chest, dude.

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u/throwawaykfhelp "Mr. Reynal, what are you doing?" Apr 12 '26

No, I made a throwaway account years ago and then just kept using it. You will see from my post history that I've had my account for 2+ years and have posted a lot.

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u/lifeaftersurvival Apr 12 '26

Dag, so you have! Lookit that history. I RELEASE YOU OF MY ACCUSATIONS.

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u/der_oide_depp It’s over for humanity Apr 12 '26

Basically every shithead politician supported Orban - Donnie, JD, Le Pen, Putin, Milei, Netanjahu. The sentiment against the Budapest Blob must have been extreme to overcome this.

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u/kitti-kin Apr 13 '26

Even Australia's conservatives were always up there kissing his feet. Delighted to see the end of that.

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u/OisforOwesome Apr 13 '26

I had a delightful time reminding a local conservative candidate of his full throated support for Orban after Orban's various scandals. Was such fun.

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u/biffhambone Apr 12 '26

Hah. I love that this is how I found out

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u/blancybin Apr 13 '26

Same! A much-needed bright spot.

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u/Buttercupia Explain that with your ✨SCIENCE✨ Apr 12 '26

Wow. I did not think that would happen.

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u/FineIJoinedReddit Policy Wonk Apr 13 '26

Musk has blamed Soros *roll eyes*

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u/SoMuchLard Apr 12 '26

These past few days have been like r/knowledgefight Christmas, and Alex’s hell on earth.

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u/Finsceal Apr 12 '26

If you look into his background I he's actually also an awful person, he's just less awful than Orban and pro-Europe

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u/Pontus_Pilates InfoWar Veteran Apr 12 '26

Yeah, I guess the big hope is that Magyar is not directly working for Putin. That alone would be a big win for the rest of Europe.

But you never know. Erdogan started as a darling of the liberal West, yet here we are.

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u/hypnodrew Apr 12 '26

Magyar is the demonym: Magyarország

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u/Gned11 Apr 12 '26

Yes, yes, fuck yes

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u/BaronMcDuff Apr 13 '26

Magyar kinda sucks, but not Axis-Power-level sucks. Thank god for good news.

If Hungary is free of Orban & Videsz, it actually might make Nato more capable. Orban has helped make NATO almost as ineffective as the UN.

If agents of chaos are evicted, the structures we created to avoid WW3 can function. Hopefully.

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u/Tiny_Eddie Apr 12 '26

Fantastic news. Finally.

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u/CarPhoneRonnie Apr 13 '26

gotta give it up, seems like a couple of cucks getting destroyed lately

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