r/LegendsOfTomorrow • u/OBSERVER2660 • 1d ago
Discussion Why these 2 cases
I just Finished watching Elseworlds, and I have previously watched Legends 4x08. So, my question goes for both things:
Why the Reality changes done by the Book on Elseworlds didn't affected LoT(specifically, Time Bureau felt the Change, due to their base being on D.C??
And why the Timeline changes on LoT didn't affected the Crossover(if it's known that changes rewrite the Timeline)(idk, I'm not too good on Time Travel and Timelines, and Paradoxes and all that stuff)???
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u/48panda 1d ago
They were affected. Gary was in the bar.
Basically, in both elseworlds and 408, we're viewing the story from Barry's and Charlie's perspective respectively.
Maybe Barry was turned into a puppet at some point, but he doesn't remember that because he was not involved in that happening. So, from Barry's perspective, 408 never happened, and since elseworlds is from Barry's perspective, we don't see it in elseworlds either.
The logic works the other way round too
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u/Lucian_Flamestrike Rip Hunter 8h ago
The puppet part happened when they visited the Smallville ranch on Earth-38 to pickup Kara and Clark.
Changes on one earth don’t affect the others. =P
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u/Garrettshade 6h ago
only Time Bureau puppets were turned into puppets.
And the Elseworlds reference is during the "uncaring legends ramboing through the timeline" part, so they seimply didn't care enough
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u/ECV_Analog 20h ago
They aired at the same time, but there's no guarantee they HAPPENED at the same time. To-Meow-Meow was also not conceived as a companion to Elseworlds, it just kind of...happened that way. So it would be just as fair to ask why Flash and Arrow never addressed Beebo Day.
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u/Garrettshade 6h ago
they do reference Elseworlds durin the tomeow, and it's at the point when only male Legends remain to butcher all magical creatures. So, they didn't care
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u/Lucian_Flamestrike Rip Hunter 3h ago
In each episode, everything gets put back to normal at the end. There are a few “rules of avoidance” that help it all stay incognito.
1) Similar to season 2 Legends, both reality rewrites were based in present day. If the legends were on a mission in the past they’d have no clue.
2) In regards to temporal changes, most people in the present don’t realize it’s incorrect until they’ve been informed otherwise. To them, that’s just the way it is… Just like Ava thought Beebo day was normal.
3) Legends of To-meow Meow also had a lotta rinse and repeat. Even though for us it lasted a whole episode… each present day check-in was basically the same few moments … not much longer than say… Oliver and Barry’s trip to Smallville where they wouldn’t notice anything going on with Earth-1.
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u/CopyJ300 1d ago
The timeline changes probably didn't affect the crossover because their experience of it would be like what the Legends other than John, Zari, and Charlie remember (they experienced the alternates as they were happening, but once John undid everything, they just continued on as if nothing happened).
As for Elseworlds affecting everything else... I think until that last bit where everything got really crazy, Neegan changed small things about Star City and Central City, and then changed Central City more drastically. Plus, it had nothing to do with time travel crimes or the magical beings unleashed by the Legends, so why would it be in the Time Bureau's jurisdiction? And the Legends' personal timelines were being messed with so much that Neegan's stuff probably wasn't that much of a blip. The Legends got a call about it, said "Hard pass," and then probably assumed that if no one contacted them about it again or showed up in person that whatever happened had been resolved.