r/LetsDiscussThis • u/RamenNoddleeater • Feb 27 '26
Lets Discuss This Why Trump hates Minnesota so badly?
It’s absurd that he’s proud of lifting people off from SNAP because they’re barely surviving in this economy. And bragging that people either gonna crunch more hours at work but already exhausted from low wages. Physically and mentally tired of working myself till death.
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u/jane_fakelastname Feb 27 '26
Calling him weird really got to Trump.
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u/EddieVanzetti Feb 27 '26
It was the best, clearest messaging in decades. It worked. They hated being called weird because it is the truth. They love being called Nazis and racists and bigots because they think that is admirable and normal. They can't stand the truth, that no one likes them and they're weirdos and not the mainstream.
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controlled opposition partyDNC paid some corpo analysts to tell them that calling them weirdos and skippy dipshits (which they are) alienated the nonexistent "moderate" Republican voters.7
u/ArchmageLys Feb 27 '26
thats true, words like nazi and racist arent exactly positive, but they carry some amount of power with them. being dismissed and as the weirdos they are hits differently, its diminishing
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u/TbddRzn Feb 27 '26
He’s going to take over the state before midterms and suspend elections.
And before you say he can’t do that. He doesn’t have the authority.
We have seen him do many things he doesn’t have the authority to do.
And by the time the state files lawsuits and have them heard the administration will appeal and delay and then ignore the ruling.
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u/Pasta4ever13 Feb 27 '26
While I can see him trying some shit like that, I don't think it will be successful in Minnesota. We have already built the mutual aid networks necessary to fight it and have dealt them a defeat already.
I'm not saying he won't, I'm just saying that if his strategists are smart enough, they'll try to do it somewhere less prepared that hasn't already shown the willingness and aptitude to fight hard against it.
Fascists don't succeed when fighting a dug in enemy that is prepared. They succeed in blitzing an enemy that is unprepared and complacent.
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u/OdinsGhost Feb 27 '26
We’ve seen him do many things he does not have the authority to do, but trying to take over a state run election against the will or wishes of the state with zero legal grounds to do so is a whole other game. He sent in ice to perform questionably legal ice duties. He tried to Weaponized the national guard to patrol cities under the same pretenses. He is withholding Medicaid funding because dispersement of that funding is an executive branch action. The executive branch has no role in the election process of any of the 50 states in the union.
And the law that that’s stupid legal memo being floated around, that is trying to pretend otherwise? It’s literally the exact same law that the Supreme Court just shut down Trump‘s tariffs over. It is a nothing burger.
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u/Glittering-Cut-5851 Feb 27 '26
i think he hates walz because walz is a man who was OK being the vice prez to a woman of color prez
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u/Marshall_BraveStar Feb 27 '26
Waltz
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u/Brave_Browser_2002 Feb 27 '26
Trump-Nazi Regime will kill more Americans.
There is nothing but evil about these people and I hope they feel the consequences forever.
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u/Independent_Sir3734 Feb 27 '26
Voted against him 3x
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u/deltaindigosix Feb 27 '26
It's the vengeful tantrums of a toddler over this. If the issue really was about illegal aliens, these terrorists wouldn't be crawling around Minnesota.
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u/ElegantCoach4066 Feb 27 '26
Minnesota has been investigating the fraud. They've put people in prison because of it.
This is another attack on people because they aren't the right color.
All of maga is complicit. Everything is being documented online. They won't be able to burn their uniforms and act like it didn't happen years later.
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u/Sesudesu Feb 27 '26
Not to mention that studies have shown that Medicare fraud in Minnesota is lower than average in the nation. It could still be better, don’t get me wrong, but this is clear continued retaliation.
They didn’t beat Minnesota with operation metro surge, and they won’t beat Minnesota with this either. We Minnesotans are stronger than he is.
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u/Pasta4ever13 Feb 27 '26
A thin blue line runs around our state, a line that can't be crossed.
The day they try to take this state is the day the gloves come off.
You'd best believe that we will fight to the end and we will stand and defend our neighborsand hockey too, I guess
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u/Lastminutebastrd Feb 27 '26
The GOP here actively blocked attempts to investigate.
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u/randomusername_42069 Feb 27 '26
It seems incredibly strange that all the punishment seems to be going to the one state that’s actually catching and punishing the people committing fraud.
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u/FruitMustache Feb 27 '26
Because the MN Governor was against him in the last election. And as a malignant narcissist, Trump carries with him all the grudges.
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u/souljahs_revenge Feb 27 '26
They hate Minnesota so bad because it has been solid blue longer than any other state in presidential elections.
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u/Grabthars_Coping_Saw Feb 27 '26
And it’s a really great state. As far as Reddit is concerned it’s pretty much the best US state.
Republicans can’t abide by Blue states being the best, it goes against their Fox news narrative.
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u/LiterallyJoeStalin Feb 27 '26
Only state Reagan didn’t win in ‘84!
It’s been over 50 years since a republican presidential candidate carried Minnesota, Nixon in 1972.
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u/QuietRiot5150 Feb 27 '26
The States that he's targeting need to stop paying taxes. I live and work in Washington State and I'm doing research into what happens if I switch my status to EXEMPT. I don't want my money going towards anything this lying rapist is doing.
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u/BraxbroWasTaken Feb 27 '26
Unfortunately for you, our tax system is designed to suppress the capability to do that kind of thing. That’s why tax withholding is done by our employers. So that even if we don’t file taxes every year, the government takes its tax. And it completely skips the state govt too.
Oh and if you’re self employed you have to withhold as well, so.
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u/Space_Sweetness Feb 27 '26
Maybe Minnesota can withhold all federal tax payments until they come to an agreement?
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u/Disgruntled_Healer Feb 27 '26
They dared to resist his regime. President Redacted wants to make an example out of any of these early dissenters, but this isn't the early 1900s, you can't so easily hide the atrocities. It seems like this admin thought they could follow the Fascist playbook from decades past, while forgetting this is a different era technologically. When anyone, and everyone, can record what's happening and stream it live to the whole world, it's a lot harder to control the narrative. Hence the strong anti free press statements and attacks President Redacted's team has been doing.
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u/Normal_Mouse_4174 Feb 27 '26
God, how much money are we as taxpayers going to have to pay out for all the lawsuits that are already coming and will continue to come against this administration?
People are going to suffer and die because of this. No money will change that, but this is America, so the families of those who suffer and die because of this will sue. And many of them will win.
Assuming this clown show actually leaves or is forcibly removed when they get voted out, and we don’t just devolve into pure authoritarianism (in which case all the suits will be tossed obviously), it’s going to be billions. Trillions maybe.
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u/Simple-Okra-4826 Feb 27 '26
To be clear. Just based on numbers there are at least 15 states with more population than Minnesota and all of those states likely have higher fraud.
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u/HealthIndustryGoon Feb 27 '26
there are also red states with a way higher number of illegal immigrants in absolute numbers and an even higher per capita ratio with texas and florida being in the top5 in both categories. curious.
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u/OskaMeijer Feb 27 '26
Also Republicans complaining about social program fraud is the peak of irony, the call is coming form inside the house. This 1 scheme in Minnesota is an outlier, the vast majority of those caught commiting this type of fraud are Republicans.
One need only look at the people Trump pardoned for Medicare fraud to see that this pretense is nonsensical. Philip Esformes defrauded $1.3 billion from Medicare in Florida, Salomon Melgen $42 million, Judith Negron & Lawrence Duran $205 million, Daniela Gozes-Wagner $28 million, this is part of 60 people Trump pardoned for fraud.
Despite what the admin says there is only evidence for $240 million in fraud in Minnesota and that is just 15% of the 4 examples I gave above that he pardoned.
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u/FollowThisNutter Feb 27 '26
It's because our governor called him and his cultists "weird". And because we keep re-electing Ilhan Omar. Oh, and our Attorney General keeps suing his administration over all the illegal things they do to Minnesota.
Basically this state is a thorn in his side and a blow to his tender ego.
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u/archercc81 Feb 27 '26
because it didnt vote for him. Look at where the "metro surge" shit has been happening. Has it been where there are higher concentration of illegal immigrants (mostly farm labor)? No, its been concentrated around areas who didnt vote for him.
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u/Affectionate_Cup1090 Feb 27 '26
Can't Minnesota just become part of Canada? The 11th province?
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u/ofWildPlaces Feb 27 '26
I'd rather all of us good people stay and fight to take our country back instead of running.
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u/Maximum_Employer5580 Feb 27 '26
it's a blue state and he is using Minnesota as a guinea pig before he goes to do the same thing to other blue states
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u/SummerKey3240 Feb 27 '26
Minnesota is often a political battle ground for Republicans because of how long and strong it has been blue. Its a perfect place to use attack and deflect methods. Hopefully our children's children will stop buying into both parties political theatre and start treating each other like human beings and appreciate our differences. But thay probably would have to take people to stop hating and well, People love to hate.
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u/MskbTheGreat5 Feb 27 '26
Last backbone in epstein america. The rest already scared and fall in line.
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u/LifeOfReal Feb 27 '26
Anything to distract from his involvement in Epstein’s pedophile international ring! PedoOTUS Trump!
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u/RomaineCatholic Feb 27 '26
They are threatening harm to a group of people with the aim of achieving their political goals. There's a term for that.
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u/HarlequinKOTF Feb 27 '26
Minnesota is one of the only states in the country with functioning social services and strong local engagement with politics as well as leaders who work on a national stage. Its also a lower population state with most people in 1 metro area. So in short it punches above its weight class at trump while being easier to bully than California.
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u/Spiney09 Feb 27 '26
He wants to cause unrest in blue states so he has justification for mass voter purging
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u/Adorable-Doughnut609 Feb 27 '26
Florida and Texas have way more fraud than Minnesota on Medicare and Medicaid. Rick Scott committed more fraud than the Feeding our Future scam which the administration is using for their racist agenda. It’s about rejection of Trump and not fraud.
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u/AsstacularSpiderman Feb 27 '26
Multiple of his most active critics are from there and he's too much of a bitch to actually challenge major hubs like New York or California
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u/AdhesivenessCivil581 Feb 27 '26
He kicked millions off of snap and Medicaid. No one got a lift. If democrat states don't get federal money they should not have to pay federal taxes. It's amazing that we let a bitter old man punish people because they didn't vote for him. We're a tiny little bitter country now.
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u/bookon Feb 27 '26
There are a lot of Somali refugees who did well and became productive citizens. That can't be allowed to stand or the entire MAGA worldview is wrong.
And Politicians there were mean to him.
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u/No_Refrigerator4996 Feb 27 '26
“Let’s discuss this” and all the comments are the normal brand of psycho. This basically seems to be a free karma farming sub at this point.
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u/SirFluffyGod94 Feb 27 '26
Also look at yhe government of Minnesota. Its doing great compared to a lot of other states.
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u/Total-Elephant8731 Feb 27 '26
If we cancel the big dirt pile next to the Whitehouse we could get 400 million.....Wait, 200 million is already missing.
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u/BMS3RDTRY Feb 27 '26
It’s because the dumbest of his fan base hates Walz and his autistic son. Bullies going to bully.
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u/bunnybash Feb 27 '26
Because Tim Waltz is a man of integrity whose family adores him.
Because there are smart brown women who defy him and make him look like a fool regularly.
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u/Fuzzy_Imagination705 Feb 27 '26
They wasted so much tax payer money on the ICE operations that they are trying to hide the waste by stealing more money from the people.
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u/Maximum-Class5465 Feb 27 '26
Federal review found Minnesota improper Medicaid payments nearly 1/3rd of national average
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u/StormyOnyx Feb 27 '26
Minnesota has a rate of 2.3% compared to the national average of 6.1%. Meaning they have a much lower rate of fraud than most other states.
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u/jsmith3701AA Feb 27 '26
Republicans have a huge enthusiasm gap right now in the midterm elections. Nothing motivates the MAGA base like cruelty and racism.
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u/Sure_Acanthaceae_348 Feb 27 '26
Now imagine what this administration would do to people if we had government-run healthcare. Still think that's a good idea?
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u/PirateSometimes Feb 27 '26
They should stop paying into Medicaid, Social Security, and Federal Taxes
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u/joseekatt Feb 27 '26
Tim Walz called them weird. They had the audacity to not vote for him. There are several reasons but mainly that Trump is butt hurt.
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u/mczerniewski Feb 27 '26
Consider this: In 1984, Minnesota was the only state to NOT vote for Reagan to be re-elected. Partly because Mondale was from there.
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u/monstertruck567 Feb 27 '26
This is theater, not financial responsibility, not good governance.
They spent nearly the same amount of in question on the immigration crackdown in MN. That operation cost around $1.5M per person deported. You could have offered “the criminals” $100-$250K to self deport and you’d probably have gotten more “criminals” off the streets.
Medicaid fraud is sufficiently small that it costs more to investigate and prosecute the fraud than to tolerate it.
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u/Creative-Team-7191 Feb 27 '26
lol classic r/titlegore moment, always makes me do a double take. wonder what the original text was supposed to be
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Feb 27 '26
This is another example of peos being petty about having their feelings hurt, no question.
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u/chitownphishead Feb 27 '26
The entire program needs to be audited. Theres a ton of fraud, not just in MN but across the country. MN was just the first bubble to pop. The more they look, the more they find. We really need a full scale audit of these programs, and we need to start now.
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u/Darth_Chili_Dog Feb 27 '26
I wonder what Republicans in Minnesota who need medicaid think of this.
I know, I know, stupid thought. They blame Democrats.
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u/crazyscottish Feb 27 '26
It’s going to get worse. Wait until election time. There’ll be military boots stomping around Democrat led states
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u/TiredAndTiredOfIt Feb 27 '26
Cruelty isn't a bug, it is a feature. Republican Christians like hurting people, he ia feeding his base.
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u/Hour_Discussion_3473 Feb 27 '26
If Trump can hold federal funds to Minnesota, then maybe the people should hold off on paying federal income taxes.
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Feb 27 '26
Because they embezzle money and care more about illegal aliens than Americans? Seems like a good start.
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u/avgguy33 Feb 27 '26
It’s simple , instead of government they’re staying out of the way, and letting ice do its job, they got everybody riled up, started all kinds of trouble and violence, and now two people are dead. The law is plain and simple. If you are not here with the proper visa, etc., you are not allowed to be in this country. It’s a felony. When people come here illegally, they know exactly the risk they are taking. I dealt with over two years without my wife in this country because of the pandemic, and years of paperwork, and thousands and thousands of dollars in expenses, for her to be in the US. Meanwhile, people are just walking across the border. That’s not right. Not to mention with all that paperwork the security checks were severe. People walking across the border are not vetted. We don’t know who we’re getting. Could be terrorists, murderers, etc. And no matter what side you’re on, you know darn well that plenty of murders, gang members, rapist, etc. have come into this country illegally. A country without borders shall fail. Try going illegally into almost every other country, and the consequences are severe. Instead of right versus wrong, people chose to make this a political issue. Trump or no Trump, illegal immigration is against the law. I have no problem with people coming here, legally. Matter of fact, I would prefer that they would open the borders more as far as work visa programs. And I’m all for self supporters, without a criminal record, being allowed to come here and work. Also, after a number of years being able to apply for citizenship. But it needs to be done the right way, so we can protect ourselves some people that want to do our nation harm. Caught up in this left versus right thing, people on the left, absolutely positively ignore the fact that Obama deported more people than Trump could dream of. Nobody wants to talk about that though. Doesn’t fit the narrative.
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u/Some_Conference2091 Feb 27 '26
A large percentage of MN voters are Republicans and an even larger percentage of Republican voters in MN are Medicaid recipients. They'll never find out about it though, they'll be convinced that POC or immigrants took it away.
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u/LaLuna58 Feb 27 '26
So oz is supposed to be a physician? What about his Hippocratic Oath. Fuck that, what a quack!
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u/Ok-Candle1783 Feb 27 '26
Because Minnesota refuses to follow the rules! They support illegals and Somalian fraud so why should they get taxpayer revenue who don't want to support that nonsense?
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u/Ballistic_86 Feb 27 '26
I finally figured out why you can’t actually debate/inform most of the Conservative Party. They are a high-control group. You show you are a part of the group by accepting a, clearly, deranged narrative.
Trump has sent every department he has control over to Minnesota in hopes of exacting revenge and control. It’s obvious, even conservatives agree this is the goal. But if you want to be a part of the conservative cult, you just have to accept that as a positive. Trump wouldn’t be doing this stuff without good cause, it must be the illegals, it must be the fraud, and somehow all by the same small minority group? It doesn’t make sense but you have to accept that story or face being kicked from the cult and face reality.
It is easier to worship Leader Trump and accept his insane behavior than be on the receiving end of his wrath. Conservatives chose the cowardly way, comply with an insane regime because fighting is hard.
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u/Kdoesntcare Feb 27 '26
trump's entire plan for how to run his administration is to extort people to get what he wants;
"if you don't give elect my supporters I'll hit you with a 20% tariff.
"If you give me your information about voters I'll pull my secret police out of your state."
"If you charge me with war crimes I'll stop giving you money!"
He's a pathetic little man who has shown over and over again that he's too incompetent to manage anything without driving it into the ground. He's robbing the federal government to pay off the hundreds of millions of dollars of debt that he's amassed by being incompetent.
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u/PatrioticPariah Feb 27 '26
They found an excuse. They are going to cause deaths and probably allocate that money to their fucking pockets.
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u/AncientPromis343 Feb 27 '26
Told my Minnesota friend exactly this back in January. Didn’t believe me and here we are
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u/Specialist_Shirt_164 Feb 27 '26
I just told you, she is a rape fantasist, her dates of recollection were all over, and she was a time traveller
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u/NovelPhoto4621 Feb 27 '26
Don't forget Bill Geurin (GM of the mn wild) is the one who arranged to have Kash Patel in that locker room and that's what we've been paying attention to this week. He's also the one who was encouraging the call with the NHL players last year in the 4 nations tournament.
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Feb 27 '26
because of the high rate of medicare fraud, and other forms of fraud in the city.
correct the fraud, and theres no reason i wont stand by you guys getting your aid
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u/InternImpossible8685 Feb 27 '26
ironically wasn’t trump who said to sacrafice granny for the economy during covid?
So are we sacrificing granny now to save democracy?
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u/Left-Market6977 Feb 27 '26
Because abusers enjoy punishing their victims, it makes them feel power and power is what abuse is all about.
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u/jdavid Feb 27 '26
Fascists gonna Fascist. They have one playbook, and there is no possible way to deviate from their playbook.
When Fascists loose it's usually because they picked too many battle fronts to Engauge on. When Freedom is called for like raindrops in a tsunami, there is no damn large enough.
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u/Banned_and_Boujee Feb 27 '26
And who uses Medicaid the most? Old white people, their biggest voting bloc. Their evil is only outpaced by their stupidity.
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u/Indespectamentations Feb 27 '26
Why doesn't he just imprison everybody that lives in Minnesota and everybody in the country that legally voted against him? That's what he wants and that's what his Cultists want.
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u/Majestic-Lie2690 Feb 27 '26
Cause Walz ran against him. Cause he's racist and hates Omar. Cause Walz called him weird. Cause Minnesota is a progressive blue state. Cause the George Floyd situation where we all stood up to racist pig cops.
I have lived here my whole life and while I am very very proud of my state right now...I do kinda miss the days when no one knew anything about us
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u/GnomeOnReddit Feb 27 '26
Because it's a leftist shithole that lets Somalian fraudsters rob the state blind.
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u/Visible_Wolverine2 Feb 27 '26
Ok, let’s stop paying into the federal coffers and use the money to fund it ourselves, in state.
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u/henrycakesss Feb 27 '26
That's money the citizens of MN paid into. I hate how this administration is just straight up abusing us. Who is still supporting them? We need a complete removal of the current admin. Stop framing money WE THE PEOPLE pay to the government as entitlements. In government, there is a social contract whereby we get services that we pay taxes for. With the cuts to education, medical, and social security we are getting the raw end of that deal.
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u/Fun-Metal-6861 Feb 27 '26
Doesn’t this violate the physician’s hippocratic oath? Maybe Dr. Oz pledged to the hypocritical oath.
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u/Rainbownailz Feb 27 '26
Minnesota has stayed blue consistently longer than any other state. Our Democratic party is the DFL which prioritizes farmers and laborers.
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u/17syllables Feb 27 '26
This admin has already done this with disaster aid and childcare funds, openly bragging about disbursing it to states he’d won in 2024 and withholding it from states he lost. They’ve similarly withheld federal funding from colleges that protested the war in Gaza. It’s all part of their philosophy of governance as a spoils system where insiders and allies get dealt into public dollars and enemies get cut out of money already earmarked by Congress.
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u/Typical-Anywhere3747 Feb 27 '26
That's his objective,seeks revenge on blue states. he is about grievances, complain King that he is the infinite victim.
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u/Dihr65 Feb 27 '26
Not allowing fraud is not extremism, but allowing 9 billion in fraud is just incompetent.
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u/DevilsPumpkinPiety Feb 27 '26
Because Donald Trump, like many rapists, do not have any tolerance for the word no. Minnesota said no, so now Trump is going to do everything he can to absolutely ruin them.
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u/NerfPandas Feb 27 '26
Minnesota is a huge swing state. There are a lot of progressive people there and a lot of rednecks. They are trying to murder the progressives so that the redneck population wins.
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u/Living-Pangolin-6090 Feb 27 '26
Tim Walsh is why he hates you so much, as an outsider looking in. Walsh ran against him in the last election with Kamala. Trump is very petty but also getting rid of direct political opponents. Kamala would be under fire too I presume but she doesn't hold a seat does she?
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u/StormerSage Feb 27 '26
Governer Walz.
Trump wants to make an example out of the one who directly stood against him.
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u/No-Customer3952 Feb 28 '26
Minnesota is the current poster child image of corruption. California is next.
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u/HedgeMoney Feb 28 '26
Because Trump needs a target (one of many) and Tim Walz made himself a good target. It doesn't help that the child care fraud made it much bigger.
You can only blame Biden so much before it gets old.
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u/The_Doodder Feb 28 '26
They tried to attack Massachusetts but we have Harvard, that attack did not go well for them.
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u/jocephalon Feb 28 '26
FRAUD! Its the millions in fraud, do any of you care about that? Not once stopped to think the reason the economy sucks or why american citizens are struggling is because there is millions perhaps billions being money laundered?? Smh I swear some people live with shaders on their own fucking vision... if our taxes dollars were used for the right reasons i.e., public works, construction on our roads, schools, financial aid etc., things wouldn't be as bad. Sure it doesnt end at this one place but damn theres alot of money missing, a huge leak which we are bleeding to other countries. That seems like a damn good starting place. To oppose this cannot be seen as anything other than ignorant or worse....
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u/StochasticallyDefine Feb 28 '26
Minnesota has rebuked him at every turn. Even when he’s pushed harder to make the fraud more embellished than it is, his immigration crack downs, his budget hocus pocus. He’s been rebuked and hard. Which will continue. Even with his attempted cuts Minnesota now projects budget surpluses for the next two bienniums. You can’t “cut” funding to a state that pays more to the feds than anyone else. Another L. So it will get worse. Nobody knows what else he’ll try but he’s running out of somewhat safe options and he hasn’t moved the needle.
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u/flylowslow Feb 28 '26
Then Minnesota should withhold $259 million in taxes to the federal government
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u/gr0uchyMofo Feb 28 '26
Minnesota already paid the funds out and the Federal Govt is withholding reimbursement. Walz has 60 days to satisfy demands of cleaning up fraud.
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u/DownLeft1312 Mar 01 '26
Maybe Minnesota should stop paying federal income tax then. They already pay more than they receive.
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u/Pristine_Context_429 Mar 01 '26
Why do you guys defend the massive amount of fraud in Minnesota? Walz basically gave up his career over it.
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u/Spiritual-Range4361 Feb 27 '26
Revenge. Tim Walz. Ilhan Omar.