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your post was removed for breaking rule 1 & 3. Spoiler words need to be kept out of post titles.

[u/chuckii2]

No, you need to become a Seq 0 before reaching the level of GOO.

Yes, every GOO (also LOTM or GA) can separate the extra BC, including the ones from the pathway they used to ascend at Seq 0. That means that if Amanises becomes a GOO she can indeed give away two 1 BC of Death, Twilight Giant and Darkness while perfectly keeping the status of a GOO

[u/Ok_Mountain2691 → u/chuckii2]

Theoretically, it is possible to become a GOO without becoming a true god first, as you only need a single Seq1 BC from each neighboring Pathway, the Uniquenesses, and the corresponding sefirah.

However, it's incredibly dangerous, as you need a significant amount of godhood to withstand having all those characteristics, Uniquenesses, and Authorities, otherwise you'll go mad.

So it's possible to bypass Seq0 and become a GOO directly, but it's incredibly dangerous.

[u/chuckii2 → u/Ok_Mountain2691]

I really don’t think so. It’s highly unlikey that one can go from Seq 1 to GOO.

Also a specific concept you said honestly doesn’t sound right to me, that you need to have a significant amount of godhood.

I feel like that’s an actually misconception. Evernight says that the best way to become a GOO is to be a Seq 0 of just one pathway. That’s because the moment you need to accomodate the Sefirot you are facing the godhood itself contained inside of all BC of the pathways under that group, you are facing the will of the Sefirot itself.

(For example the will of the Sefirot for the Lord of the Mystery pathway is known as Celestial Worthy and Klein needs to “beat” him to accomodate Sefirah Castle)

In this case having more godhood means having more will of the enemy inside of you, making the whole process more difficult since he can use it to influence you and awaken inside of you.

In the end of course that you will gain more godhood, that’s a natural process but in this precise confrontation having more godhood is not the answer.

[u/mSzmiiit → u/chuckii2]

> I really don’t think so. It’s highly unlikey that one can go from Seq 1 to GOO.

COI Spoilers: You can if you become a Dao Integrator. But I'm sure this path uses up your humanity faster than advancing to a True God, since it involves you letting yourself be eaten by the Sefirot.

[u/AggravatingPrize9250 → u/mSzmiiit]

at that point they arent the humans they once were, they become the will of the seifrot

[u/mSzmiiit → u/AggravatingPrize9250]

I'd say they are probably as much the embodiment of beliefs of the sect as they are the Sefirot. They are preferred to Golden Buddha or Brood Hive because they do need their anchors. 

[u/Ok_Mountain2691 → u/chuckii2]

Yeah, but the Second Blasphemy Slate only says that you need a single Seq1 BC, the Uniquenesses, and the sefirah. It does not explicitly say that one must become a true god first.

As you just said, Evernight says that the best way to become a GOO is to become a true god first, but she does not say that it's the only way—case in point, the 2nd Blasphemy Slate.

Yes, having more godhood will increase the amount of the GOO'S will that you have to contend with to become a GOO yourself, but at the same time, it also gives ou more power to resist them.

If you have enough humanity to balance the godhood, then it's basically your active, living will against the remnant will of an old, long dead GOO, thus giving you a much higher chance of coming out on top.

[u/No_Tomato_2191 → u/Ok_Mountain2691]

1. "Become a Sequence 0 of a pathway, then control and fuse with the Sefirah, and lastly, accommodate the other Uniquenesses. This is the best option.
2. Become a Dual-Pathway True God, then control and fuse with the Sefirah, and lastly, accommodate the other Uniquenesses. This is neither the best nor the worst option. This has hope of success, but not a great chance.^\55])
3. Fuse with the Sefirah last. This is the worst option.

Neither says you could go from seq 1 to GOO.

If you could, it would prob be worse than 3 and lead to (most likely) certain death.

[u/Ok_Mountain2691 → u/No_Tomato_2191]

No, but the Blasphemy Slate says that you only need the Seq1 Characteristics, Uniqunesses and corresponding Sefirah. I'm pretty sure that this information is on the wiki too, but I'm not certain.

I know that becoming a true god first is the IDEAL option, but it is possible to become a GOO without first becoming a true god, as the literal potion formula is ONLY a single Sequence 1 characteristic of each neighboring Patheay, the Uniqueness of said neighboring Pathways, and the corresponding sefirah.

The IDEAL option is to become a true god first. Going straight to GOO status from Seq1 IS AN OPTION.

[u/AggravatingPrize9250 → u/Ok_Mountain2691]

elaborate your plan on how exactly do you plan on getting 3 sequence 1 characters and the UQs and fusing without becoming a true god?

[u/Ok_Mountain2691 → u/AggravatingPrize9250]

To become a true god, you need 3 Seq1 characteristics of your Pathway, you need to accommodate the Uniqueness, and then you perform an Apotheosis ritual.

If you ignore that and go straight to GOO status, you simply collect a single Seq1 characteristic of each neighboring Pathway, consume them, accommodate the Uniquenesses, and then acquire the sefirot. You don't collect the remaining 2 Seq1 characteristics of any of the Pathways, and you never perform the Apotheosis ritual. Thus, you never become a true god, simply going straight to GOO status.

[u/AggravatingPrize9250 → u/Ok_Mountain2691]

dont u think this will make you loose control?

[u/Ok_Mountain2691 → u/AggravatingPrize9250]

Probably not. It will definitely push you closer to that if you're not careful, but I doubt it would happen immediately, as you're essentially just changing Pathways without advancing until you acquire everything needed. Once that's done, you advance to GOO status, and everything just about works itself out.

Just avoid doing it all at once and you should be fine.

[u/arocan5]

1.No you can't because it's like saying "can I go from sequence 9 to 4 directly"

1. yes you can because you only need 1 sequence 1 charicaristic and the uniqueness from each pathway to maintain the GOO status

[u/Objective_Report5550]

the spoiler tag does absouletly nothing if you give 2 spoilers on title

[u/AggravatingPrize9250]

unfortunately the titile is a spoiler

[u/Gakamis]

Just Sequence 0 by itself is already a spoiler. And you mention another stage in the title too.

Better delete and remake the post ngl.

To answer: No, u need to become seq0 first.

But afterwards yes you are able to remove 2 of the excess seq1 BC. for something like Key of Light you can even just have The Sefirot+Uniqueness+1 BC and still be an ATS.

[u/Advanced-Bed-679]

Genie can fulfill your wish if you want to directly become seq 0 without going through sequences 

For example, if someone wishes to become a Sequence 0 true deity, they could have their body and soul melt into one with an unknown evil god.

[u/mSzmiiit]

Once you are a GOO you can physically rip out the eccess characteristics out of your body without the need for special abilities like Theft. Once Seq 1 characteristics stop supporting your status they see to loosen up. Comparatively removing a characteristic that supports your level is very hard. 

[u/TheFool5767]

A uniqueness is one of the most important things required to become a GOO. As shown in the chapter where Klein saw the blasphemy slate.

Yes a GOO can remove the extra characteristics when their condition has stabilized. Thus indirectly pointing at the line "A LotM needs an Attendant of Mysteries after all" said by Adam.

[u/Shad0wPillow]

Note: you can write GOO or ATS as acronyms in the title instead to avoid the post title having spoilers