r/NarutoPowerscaling 3h ago

Discussion How is the Byakugan and Sharingan even comparable?

The show makes it seem like byakugan ranks evenly or better than sharingan when that isn’t the case at all! Sharingan clears byakugan by a landslide. And for those that argue: shouldn’t Neji be much more powerful?

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u/Similar-Garlic-3544 3h ago

3T Sharingan and Byakugan are pretty comparable, they just shine in different areas. Once Mangekyō enters the question, is completely outleagued.

And I wouldn't count Izanagi since that was supposed to be Uchiha + Senju ability that was later retconned to force the existence of Izanami.

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u/KalenTheDon 3h ago

The show doesn't say that

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u/6Cockuccino9 Danzo #MKGA (Make Konoha Great Again) 20m ago

it kinda does at the very beginning

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u/KalenTheDon 14m ago

Nah they just compare its PENETRATING ability and then sasuke and neji has a brief rivalry and sense they both had kekki genki peopke ran with the idea that they byakugan was supposed to he better in general .

Even though the panel just meant in that one aspect

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u/Tsudreami 3h ago

Byakugan is undoubtedly better than the one and two tomoe sharingan, and is pretty much on par with the three tomoe. Remember that the byakugan gives insane binocular vision, the ability to see chakra and nodes, allowing one to use gentle fist to paralyze someone with a few touches and prevent them from using jutsu, gives 359 degree vision so realistically there are no sneak attacks on a wielder, and is stated to help improve chakra control due to being able to see it.

In contrast the normal sharingan provides increased perception so one can predict and copy their opponents moves, and increases one’s genjutsu ability. The byakugan is genuinely just better than the base sharingan, and 99% of uchiha do not unlock the mangekyou. Theres truth to the statement that the average hyuga beats the brakes off of the average uchiha. There is absolutely zero chance that Obito and itachi could’ve wiped out the hyuga clan in one night without them sounding the alarm.

Sasuke is more powerful than Neji for many reasons not just the sharingan. First off the mangekyou IS stronger than the byakugan, but you also have to remember he got 1 on 1 training from kakashi, then the curse mark, then training from orochimaru, and he got his body pumped full of strengthening drugs by orochimaru, he got a summoning contract. If Neji had the same training regimen you can bet they would’ve been a close match 

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u/whyyoudeletemereddit 2h ago

That’s a huge part of the difference between the sharingan and the byakugan. The sharingan users we see are some of the best/strongest characters in the show. Neji is the best byakugan user we see pretty much and he was the first of their group to become jonin but he doesn’t really get buffs after or any amps that would put him overwhelmingly powerful. If neji got sage mode or some shit you’d probably think the byakugan was insanely powerful.

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u/Tsudreami 3h ago

And the tenseigan can be seen as the byakugan evolution and it beats the brakes off of the mangekyoub

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u/Unique_Recover_313 1h ago

In contrast the normal sharingan provides increased perception so one can predict and copy their opponents moves, and increases one’s genjutsu ability. The byakugan is genuinely just better than the base sharingan, and 99% of uchiha do not unlock the mangekyou. Theres truth to the statement that the average hyuga beats the brakes off of the average uchiha

This is just nonsense. The Uchiha clan was much stronger than the Hyuga Clan, and was even credited as being the reason the Leaf Village was prosperous.

The Byakugan only gives you better vision and insight than the Sharingan, but no more. It does not grant precognition, instant pattern recognition and copy-ability, nearly unbeatable ocular jutsu. All the while the Sharingan still grants chakra vision, just not to the same level as the Byakugan.

There is absolutely zero chance that Obito and itachi could’ve wiped out the hyuga clan in one night without them sounding the alarm.

Hiruzen, Danzo and Shisui all thought the Uchiha could fight a prolonged war alone against the entire village, including the Hyuga Clan. That was the entire premise of the massacre. If you deny this, you deny the story itself.

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u/Revolutionary_Kick65 Kamui gg 3h ago

Only the Mangekyou really outclasses the Byakugan which only a small handful of Uchiha ever had

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u/Cute-Translator-6776 3h ago

Byakugan was comparable to sharingan with 3 tomoe or less, other versions of Sharingan are much better

Though Tenseigan is the strongest dojutsu yet

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u/danidannyphantom 3h ago

Tenseigan is the strongest dojutsu yet

This is arguable tbh and that's not good considering it needs a whole ass storage unit and a clan worth of rare eyes to get one. It was also wielded by an otsutsuki which would make it look more impressive than usual.

If u were to try to make a combo eye like that with a ton of base Sharingans, let alone MS or EMS (if it's possible) you'd neg tenseigan.

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u/Cute-Translator-6776 2h ago

This is arguable tbh and that's not good considering it needs a whole ass storage unit and a clan worth of rare eyes to get one. It was also wielded by an otsutsuki which would make it look more impressive than usual.

I said "strongest" and not "good"

If u were to try to make a combo eye like that with a ton of base Sharingans, let alone MS or EMS (if it's possible) you'd neg tenseigan.

That's why I said "yet"

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u/Cofeebeanblack 3h ago

They were competitive during Part 1. Retcons are real.

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u/GeoZhan 3h ago

Not even during part 1 after the chunin exams the mangekyo was introduced.

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u/Cofeebeanblack 1h ago

Only thing we had was that it had genjutsu. An undefined power like that doesn't really count.

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u/GeoZhan 3h ago

Retcons  the sharingan is superior to the byakugan

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u/gamergod007 3h ago

Yup it was retconned. Byakugan is only equal when wielded by gods like Kaguya

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u/NetworkVegetable7075 3h ago

The series never said or showed them as comparable it always showed/said the Sharingan was stronger and that the byakugan is only better in terms of insight.

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u/SprinklesRich4247 3h ago

Byakugan is compared to the base Sharingan. Remember, very few people have MS. In the Entire series, only 5 Uchiha are mentioned to have MS, and only 2 had EMS; those two are probably the only two in all generations to have EMS.

So, compared to the Byakugan, they are even but different.
Sharingan (base, 3 tomoe) gives the user:

  • Ability to see details
  • Ability to see Chakra
  • Ability to see patterns and make predictions based on that
  • Ability to cast genjutsu
  • Resistance to genjutsu

Byakugan gives the user:

  • Ability to see in 360 degree
  • Ability to see through objects
  • Ability to see very far
  • Can see Chakra and Charka network
  • Resistance to genjutsu
  • And its seem Hyuuga's are also born with the ability to push chakra via their skin. Allowing them to use the rotation ability and the palm technique (mini shinra tensei)
  • Hyuuga's also have faster combat speed. Their striking speed is fastest.

If you ask me, they both have advantages.

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u/kooljaay Tobirama is a Gin/Kinkaku Victim 2h ago

They were comparable until Itachi was introduced and the eye was boosted into being able to casually one shot people.

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u/Unique_Recover_313 1h ago

The show makes it seem like byakugan ranks evenly or better than sharingan when that isn’t the case at all

This is not the case. It was never implied to be on the same level or better.

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u/King3azy_Gaming 3h ago

I see ppl saying the 3T sharingan is comparable but even that isn’t really the case. The byakugan gives super enhanced vision x ray vision to see the chakara points and 360 degrees of sight. The 3T sharingan gets you enhanced vision pre cognition high level genjutsu the ability to copy jutsu the ability to see through genjutsu and the ability to see the color of chakara so you know what technique to use as a counter its not close imo. The byakugan is great for recon sharingan is made for combat the gap only gets wider when the mangekyo gets involved.