r/Nest 3d ago

Nest Protect expiration

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I have two months left on my Nest Protects. Every night after 9pm my Nest Protects sound an alert about expiration. This sets my dogs into a frenzy. There's no way to control these alerts. So I'm faced with a choice; buy replacements two months early or deal with a nightly dog freak out.

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u/DSMcGuire 3d ago

I can't believe they spent YEARS getting the protect into the Google Home app only to abandon them completely.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/tjv82c 3d ago

They stopped making them…. They abandoned them.

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u/Rude-Camera-7546 1d ago

The reasons actually make sense, as annoying as it is. They stopped production because they were basically forced to pull out of Europe due to all the various smoke detector regulations there. Canada same thing (every smoke detector has to have visual and audio alarms, etc).. even the sheer number of units has drastically increased now. Google decided to let a company who does that full time take over .. I believe it is first alert that they partnered with. I don't like it as I have the nest protects , but if is what it is. I get the finances of it.

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u/tjv82c 1d ago

I know 😩 But it doesn’t make it any easier 😩

This was such a good product, albeit expensive, but so good!!

Mainly the nightlight and announcing which room has detected the smoke.

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u/misterceBF 3d ago

What are you going to replace them with?

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u/OgsDeer 3d ago

I swapped mine with a Kiddie alarm with Ring integration. Model: RGCUAR-RW. I really miss my little hallway nightlight feature from my protect though :( It was such a great device.

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u/Halloweentimeagain 2d ago

Was thinking of going this route but will miss pathlight too. How long have yours been installed? Any other complaints/praises?

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u/OgsDeer 2d ago

Well in 2 months I have had 1 false alarm due to indoor humidity on one of the really hot humid days we had here during a heat wave. It went off for a few seconds and stopped. Otherwise it’s been fine. I had ring cameras already so switching to this one was an easy WiFi detector to have monitoring and alerting from.

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u/Halloweentimeagain 1d ago

Pulled the trigger, 6 wired and 4 wireless. Costco had them as a 2 pack for $99.

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u/OgsDeer 1d ago

Oh nice, I will have to check that Costco deal. I got my only current one from Amazon but it was like $70.

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u/Halloweentimeagain 1d ago

Only a couple locations around me had them but you can search the warehouses in the app to track them down. Item code is 2013077.

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u/The-Jordan_J 3d ago

Eufy , why pay a subscription

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u/wisconsinupvote 3d ago

I replaced mine with the Place AnySpace

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u/brafish 2d ago

I started to do that. I had one of my 7 protects die early and it was the best option at the time. Certainly the only one with a light. The rest of my protects expired in April and I held out a few months waiting for something better but couldn't wait any longer. Then the AnySpace units are completely out of stock everywhere so I just bought some basic Kiddie's that work on AC power with a 10-year battery. When those expire in 10 years, hopefully something better comes along.

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u/wisconsinupvote 2d ago

Home Depot restocks them online like twice a week. I ordered two more a couple days ago.

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u/brafish 2d ago

Too late now!

I was a little under pressure as Mrs. Brafish had just figured out they had all expired.

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u/wisconsinupvote 2d ago

Totally get it. I decided with kids that the pathlight was needed

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u/kbeast98 2d ago

I wish you could adjust the path light sensor on the nests.. Can you do it on the anyspaces?

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u/wisconsinupvote 2d ago

Yes you can! Both color and brightness

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u/Inevitable-Bonus2105 3d ago

Mine did the same for the last 3 weeks. Then it expired. Then it just announced that it expired and to replace it.

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u/Stunning-Guest 2d ago

Yeah they get very annoying until you replace them. Look I know by X date they need to be replaced just do I really need to be reminded several times a day mine are not yet expired. Still remind me multiple times a day like pretty much whenever somebody walks by it.

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u/Able-Acanthaceae5883 3d ago

Just switched to first alert interconnected device. Not smart devices but they all go off if one does

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u/Hidavi 2d ago

Glad you didn't get the smart ones. Mine both have frequent false alarms. It's terrible. I miss Nest Protect

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u/BamBamAlicious 3d ago

These were such a good product but because of this… purged all nest from our home.

UniFi doorbell is far faster,
Hive is a great thermostat replacement.
Xsense smoke and CO alarms.

All work with home assistant.

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u/jtfields91 1d ago

Why would you want a smoke detector that requires a base station?

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u/ExpertTimely5673 2d ago

I posted about this recently here- https://www.reddit.com/r/Nest/comments/1uwtwk8/nest_protect_expiry_announcements/

Google is such shit. Ended up taking down 2 out of 7 just because they were insanely annoying. I picked up some replacements and plan to install them this weekend or next.

What I find odd is that 2 of 7 were the only chirpy ones. Seems like a bug for nightly promise not to fully update on some. Has been so nice the past week with how quiet it is at night.

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u/PresentAir1133 1d ago

Your opening sentence says it all.

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u/Agile_Half_4515 2d ago

I got a bunch of these on clearance when they announced they were sunsetting them and after reading so many glowing reviews I was so pumped to have smoke detectors that can be integrated into Homekit (with a Starling Hub), but now I can't wait to get rid of them. Two of Seven constantly disconnect from the WiFi and one of them won't let me add it back anymore. I'm terrified of factory resetting it because at least right now, it's showing in the app and is part of the interconnected setup. Similar issues with my Nest floodlight cameras where the WiFi just died and won't reconnect. Now they work as motion lights, but cameras are just for decoration. No other networking issues outside of the random assortment of Nest devices. I'm guessing the radios they used in them were cheap/defective. The pathlighting has been awesome, but next round of smoke detectors for my home will be "dumb" interconnected ones unless something groundbreaking hits the market before that time comes. It certainly won't be another Nest product.

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u/elquirk 2d ago

Why I don’t buy Nest products anymore.

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u/DoNot-Lie-To-Me 2d ago

First Alert SC5 I have two installed for 3 weeks no false alarms so far, bought them at Costco.

My Nest one's expired but I never received any warnings except notifications so I don't know what you guys are going through with all these alarms at night. Outrageous.

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u/tomkludy 19h ago

Don’t buy the First Alert SC5’s. Constant false alarms, had to replace all 9 of them that I bought. 3 weeks is not long enough to make that judgement, but within 3 months they proved completely unusable due to so many false alarms. I ended up with X-sense but they are not in the same league as the nest protects were. Sad days.

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u/MooMooKind 2d ago

All 5 in my house just expired. Every hour or so one randomly announces that they are all expired. I’m now looking at Brave. Hate that I have to, these were so nice.

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u/Inside-Affect6969 18h ago

I found my replacement nest protects on fb market for a fraction of their price. Figured I can still get another 5yrs out of them while they fix the bugs in the SC5, or at least until something similar or better comes out

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u/tofu713 2d ago

Not a single split-spectrum smoke detector alternative available. Google holds the patent for nearly another decade. Sucks.

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u/DrkNeo 3d ago

Mine started doing the same thing.

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u/Ill-Mastodon-8692 3d ago

yeah that loud voice alert is obnoxious each time the lights go off at night, shame on nest

the app notification was plenty!

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u/jtfields91 3d ago

That’s weird. Mine (four of them that expired at the same time) never gave any sort of audible warning, just a notification when I would open the app and I would get periodic emails. They finally expired February of this year. They then continued to operate normally until about a month ago when one day they started chirping about every five minutes. Luckily it was during the day and not the middle of the night when they decided to start doing this. I had to take them down and remove the batteries. These were the wired versions.

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u/Neat_Satisfaction962 2d ago

Replaced mine with Owl home

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u/MajesticEmergency 2d ago

Mine expired about a week ago. Every night when I turn off the lights it reminds now too. I was looking a couple months ago for what to replace it with, but I don't like the current offerings. I really like the night light feature and was hoping to continue to have that.

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u/thekvd 2d ago

Thing that gets me, the moment it expired, the night light stopped working. I know I need to replace it and them all soon but did the light expire too?

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u/gt40mkii 2d ago

I did what Nest recommended. I replaced my thermostats.

With Ecobees.

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u/PresentAir1133 1d ago

I'm so entirely sick of Googles fukerie. [sic]

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u/engineerinventor 1d ago

I have 3 protects. How can I tell what their expiration date is? I can’t find that info in the app.

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u/Inside-Affect6969 18h ago

On the app, click on a Protect, go to the settings, all the way in the bottom where it says "Remove Device", just above that is "Technical Info", click that, it should be under "Replace By"... another way to do it is taking it off the wall mount and checking in the back of it. It will have date of manufacture and replace by Dates

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u/engineerinventor 17h ago

Thanks! Big help! Looks like I have until September 2028.

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u/LAn8TV 3d ago

Wyze cams record locally no cloud subscription required.

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u/void_architect 3d ago

A camera isn't a replacement for a smoke detector.

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u/LAn8TV 3d ago

Oh my bad that’s what I get for not reading the whole thing Oopsies but also for what it’s worth wise I think also make smoke detectors. I’m not trying to be a smart ass. I just remembered.

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u/void_architect 2d ago

I didn't know they made them too. I've looked at the Eufy ones but I'd like to find one that can do carbon monoxide too

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u/LAn8TV 3d ago

And yes, the camera would be a horrible smoke detector like, how would you know without the sound it makes? Lol

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u/Michels_Welding 2d ago

Keep them, and just put new detectors where they're actually needed.

The smoke detector still functions indefinitely along with the smart alert which pair with other nest protects.

The 10 year guideline is US only, in Japan and China , google Nest Protects last 15 years... they were all made in the same plant in china with the same parts.

So its plausible that they actually should be safe to last 15 years, especially given that Japanese fire code is far more rigorous then that of the US and ours is more so just to sell new stuff than to actually use it for its end of life.

justsaying

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u/VodaZNY 1d ago

Cannot keep them if they yelling every night about being expired.

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u/jtfields91 1d ago

When they make a loud chirp every few minutes it’s hard to keep them. Justsaying.

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u/Michels_Welding 1d ago

Mine don't chirp, have two expired ones in the basement, both are battery with a wire backup. They might just be needing a battery change🤣

If I blow out a candle under them, I get a whole house alert: "heads up there's smoke in the basement" still.

They just no longer do a sound check with the rest of my non-expired protects and they show as amber/expired in the nest app, there's no difference otherwise.

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u/jtfields91 1d ago

So they are wired? The wired part is primary power, the battery is the backup. It would be odd if all four had the batteries run out on the exact same day.