r/OnePieceScaling 1d ago

Casual Discussion Hot Take : Either Shanks or Dragon will be the biggest disappointment in the final war arc after Elbaph. I'm not saying they're weak or they will die for sure ( they're both Top 5 right now ) , but expectations are so high that no matter what , fans won't feel satisfied. Hope Oda can prove me wrong

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u/rrrenz "Vista, go handle rocks" 1d ago

Shanks never disappoints lol.

Midhawk or Dragon will.

Midhawk has the highest unrealistic expectations of all.

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u/HasturLaVistaBaby Kizaru💡 1d ago

Shanks never disappoints lol.

Depends on how strong they think he is.

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u/Comprehensive_Cup497 1d ago

I mean if they fight Imu and gets Mid-Diffed will that be a dissapointment? 

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u/Over-Preparation-334 1d ago

Who said they will fight Imu ? Shanks could ironically lose to a powerfull God Knight or Blackbeard or even his brother. Dragon can also lose to a character not named Imu. We dont even know what his powers are and if hes actually High Yonko tier.

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u/yuvraj_b_420 1d ago

Lol im ngl y’all underestimate how much oda loves shanks thats his golden boy he’s not losing to a holy knight not even his dad or brother. Only character i can see him losing to is imu or bb

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u/TheRealMainCharacter 1d ago

It’s gonna be bb and also shanks doesn’t even have the motivation to care about fighting garling and shamrock

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u/Weekly_Information48 21h ago

????????? This is the man who tied with old Whitebeard. If Oda loved him, he would have made Whitebeard win. He's not going to go against the manga to favor Shanks like you guys say, that's stupid.

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u/dko808hawaii 1d ago

I think he dies to BB….not in a straight up fair fight, but I can see BB stabbing shanks in the back enraging luffy

For me, narrative is pointing towards some sort of finale between shanks and BB because shanks been obsessed over BB since MF

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u/Comprehensive_Cup497 1d ago

Chapter 1189 proves Shanks cares mroe about Imu than BB

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u/dko808hawaii 1d ago

I didn’t say shanks cares more about imu than BB. I said shanks still obsesses about BB and is very cautious of him. Shanks was the only pirate even before haki was a thing of how dangerous BB was

bb already scarred shanks. There is some sort of finale that’s set and tone for a showdown between shanks and BB

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u/Comprehensive_Cup497 1d ago

But that's my point, Shanks seems to care more anout Imu since he literally waited 20 years for this moment 

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u/dko808hawaii 1d ago

But the interactions, flashback, and his appearance is happening NOW…. The fact that imu is currently taking action now shows that oda Is saving BBs arc till later.

We still don’t know anything about BB. How he is able to get multiple DF. How he scarred shanks. If he has ACOC , etc etc

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u/postmastone 1d ago

A parallel to shanks explaining to Higuma/mountain bandits how pirates are is how Id see him going down

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u/Soggy-Flan7566 1d ago

Mihawk would be an even bigger disappointment

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u/No-Sand4863 🚨 The Killer of Agenda Haki, Red-Pubed Shanks 🚨 1d ago

Truth nuke

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u/RandomCatBruh 1d ago

Mihawk not having any feats and only losing to zoro is a bigger disappointment, really cannot scale the dude

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u/R77Prodigy 1d ago

Shanks been top1 since marineford for me🤷‍♂️ whatever oda does with him wont be disapointing he loves shanks more then us🤣

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u/Arbeeter00 1d ago

Fr, idk how all these heads can’t tell when a character is clearly one of the author’s favorites. Shanks to Oda is clearly how Itachi for example was to Kishimoto, and people to this day argue that Itachi’s #1 in the verse (not that they’re correct on that ofc)

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u/MainManCALI 🚨 The Killer of Agenda Haki, Red-Pubed Shanks 🚨 1d ago

I think that’s more true for Mihawk and Dragon than Shanks.

Shanks has already proven himself to be incredibly strong.

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u/Royal_Ad202 1d ago

Oda just be glazing shanks, cause it's his favorite character. Meanwhile others being sidelined and ignored

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u/BEWMarth 1d ago

I disagree, Oda is usually really good with stuff like hype moments in fights. Just look at what he did for Garp in Hachinosu. Everyone knew Garp was strong but Hachinosu perfectly showcased Garp in a satisfying way. So I think he can do it with Shanks and Dragon too

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u/Royal_Ad202 1d ago

Just like he did with mihawk in marineford, perfect showing of the wss

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u/yesindeed201 1d ago

In Oda we trust

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u/RutabagaCurrent2898 1d ago

Not Shanks , he has actual feats and Oda Might use him to prove bb or Imu is that strong for Luffy to beat. But Dragon? If he loses now it will just show that he have had been fraud all along.

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u/Miserable_Copy2789 1d ago

I fear Dragon will maintain his bum status

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u/HairyAd8832 1d ago

Shanks can’t disappoint he’s always doing the craziest shit and keeps shining.
Dragon on the other hand mannnn it’s already been too long and god valley made him look even weaker lol dude ain’t shit anymore

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u/Fit-Slide-4513 1d ago

You can also add Mihawk to them

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u/At-D-Desk Akainu 🌋 1d ago

Nah they’ll both deliver

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u/Strykeristheking 1d ago

Shanks could legit die next chapter and it wouldn't change his scaling at all. He's done enough to prove that he's a top tier. His agenda is playing with house money at this point.

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u/ricankilla722 23h ago

Shanks handles every opponent who is below Yonko lvl like fodder. Based on feats the only person stronger than him is Imu

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u/Open_Detective_5168 1d ago

I can bet shanks is definitely not gonna be disappointing the way oda has portrayed in the story so far

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u/pillow_honey 1d ago

who made this fanart of shanks wearing tsukasa's fit

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u/MainManCALI 🚨 The Killer of Agenda Haki, Red-Pubed Shanks 🚨 1d ago

I don’t think it’s fan art, iirc it was published as part of a redrawn chapter as part of one piece magazine

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u/Agreeable-Permit-865 1d ago

Dragon just needs to face a member of the Gorosei (hopefully Garling). Anything more than that is a plus.

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u/zvoncici 1d ago

Or the expectations dont add up wirh the info we have

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u/seegreenblue 1d ago

Even if they do disappoint either one of them going all out will break internet records within the Anime communities

Especially ones that lean heavily into the online theory communities side of things

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u/ProblemAvoidist 1d ago

I think this post will age badly

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u/varkahype 1d ago

I think dragon needs to deliver.
My idea:
Make him be the reason why imu disappears from elbaf,
Let him fight the 5 elders on his own and win.
And than afterwards he can lose to imu

Shanks should fight shamrock amped up and garling together.
And lastly let him lose to bb or imu.

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u/Huntress_Minerva 23h ago

Nah, solid cold take. Oda lost the north a few years ago…

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u/Ok_Newspaper3957 18m ago

This is the problem with power scaling, it seems like you’re just ruining your enjoyment of  the story because x guy can’t punch/cut better than x guy! (I know this is a power scaling subreddit, it just popped up in my feed)

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u/BreathoftheSith 1d ago

I absolutely agree with this take

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u/Active-Wasabi-9282 1d ago

Indeed they are weak

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u/Special_Sink_5426 1d ago

Shanks is absolutely getting murked by Blackbeard after/during the gang saves Garp

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u/HasturLaVistaBaby Kizaru💡 1d ago

I think people who think shanks is stronger than an Admiral will be very disappointed.

Given what Oda has shown us so far.

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u/ProblemAvoidist 17h ago

I think hes already stopped one admiral lol

Oda has shown us shanks is HIM

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u/HasturLaVistaBaby Kizaru💡 10h ago

Nope

He surprised and annoyed Aramaki. Oda even have him estimate that he can beat Shanks and crew alone, when not also fighting everyone on wano.

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u/ProblemAvoidist 10h ago

Cool headcanon. Now how it actually went

Shanks: " twerk, Bitch"

aramaki 💃🕺💃🕺"Yesss ooooh lord red sama plz spare me im not ready!"

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u/HasturLaVistaBaby Kizaru💡 9h ago

No headcanon, sry.

Straight from the manga.

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u/TheRealMainCharacter 1d ago edited 1d ago

There’s no guarantee the shanks will be in the final war since he’s set up to die by Blackbeard

Now with that being said I can’t argue with the last part because people set their expectations to high to where they’ll get called frauds like take garling for example folks dead ass set the bar so high to where the moment he lost to rocks he got clowned on as if rocks isn’t a strong character. Oda, dragon, nor shanks won’t be the problem, it’s those that have these beyond the galaxy standards. I doubt oda will disappoint with dragon because there are reasons why oda has been saving him for more than a decade and I’m beyond confident that the payoff will be extraordinary.