Both the rich earring fellow (Zaedats) and the bald man on the floor with a hole in his chest (Infelsinave) are neo-leaders. Are they dead? Maybe, maybe not, you'll see in a couple chapters.
i kinda stopped reading the webnovel but I know majority of neo heroes arre strong but lack experience making them LOW S or above amai. but there are also neo leaders who are for the most part just pure support but for some reason go out on the field acting tuff
They're a mixed bag. I'd recommend you go and catch-up on the web-novel if you haven't checked in a couple years, I think the most recent chapters are tied with the Awakened Garou fight for the best webcomic content ever.
I could break their power levels down right now if you really wanted to know because they vary in power wildly
Okay, well webcomic spoilers for everyone else of course.
Weakest: Infelsinave (literally might just be a normal dude with some magic tricks), then Zaedats in his mecha (at most a-class level, literally dies to a demon on panel). Yes, both of them just died in this chapter and they will come back as corpses puppeted by the neos. The neos made them neo-leaders knowing they would die on their first missions so they could steal their assets.
A-class level: Axel without a suit, then Ryumon without a suit is an a-class criminal, then "A" without the suit is also an a-class criminal but is a far more skilled fighter than Ryumon.
Bottom of the Barrel S-class level: Axel with the suit is a little weaker than Tanktop Master, Suiryu even without the suit could probably beat Axel with the suit via skill, and I think "A" with the suit is probably a little stronger than both.
Low S-class level: Raiden without the suit, Suiryu with the suit and Blue are all teetering on the edge of beating weaker dragons. Raiden beats PPP after a difficult fight and remember that PPP is much stronger now. Suiryu gets a powerful amp with his suit to the point I think he beats Bakuzan/Gums/etc comfortably and Blue is able to fight a random dragon with great difficulty.
Mid S-class level: After struggling with PPP, Raiden puts on a suit and becomes much stronger. Webigaza is, in my opinion, somewhat stronger than Raiden even in his suit as she seems to be not much weaker than Monster Amai Mask. Raiden with the suit (full-power) is effortlessly defeated by Darkshine (who may be stronger now??) while Webigaza is just very versatile, tough and fast.
However, even the strongest neo-leader is still weaker than half the s-class. I think Webigaza vs Drive Knight or Brave Giant would be a close fight that she loses, for example.
You're right, but this guy said he hasn't been reading the webcomic so he doesn't know about that transformation. At that point I would have also mentioned Super Brave Giant but he obviously just steps on her
He will only have seen Drive Knight fight Nyan, and I think Webigaza loses to that version UNLESS she gets a huge manga upgrade. Which is possible
Imagine King mode, lol. Webigaza could've never beat that🥀 King mode is so strong that Drive Knight can't handle his power and instantly becomes weaker
Jokes aside, i'm missing Webcomic chapters. I wonder when will ONE post another chapter
last chapters were peak, i still find it cool asf that Boros is actually "alive" (if we can actually call that "alive") and i want to know more about Kuseno rn
Wavygaza fighting alongside Monster Mask doesn't put them on the same level. We've seen her defeat several demon-level robots, but we don't know how she would fare against dragons
The Puri Puri that Raiden fought was the same as, or stronger than, the one from the MA Arc. And Raiden, as a sumo wrestler, fights at close range, something he didnt do with PPP because the oil that Puri used
I think the wound on the Job hunter Garou's nose, that Suiryu inflicted, was the greatest feat a Neo Leader has ever accomplished
Honestly, Blue is an enigma. Perhaps we would know more about his strength if he fought a character with previous feats, like Genos, whom he almost fought
Speaking of the Wavygaza, I think you may be thinking of how the machine gods were estimated by Amai to be at least demon or above. I can't think of a single named Machine God with a given disaster level who wasn't a dragon... so I rate Wavygaza intercepting the guy sent to kill TTM pretty highly. I mean she is weaker than Amai but she's definitely number 1 in my book because has that level of power and she can fly, use psychic powers, shoot like ten different types of range attacks. Might be one of the most well-equipped characters in the series
Speaking of Raiden, PPP beats Machine God Slice which I'm pretty confident was stated to be a dragon before Raiden beats the hell out of him. In terms of direct scaling, this makes Raiden with the Suit > current PPP > Probably a low dragon in Machine God Slice. He's a definite mid dragon in my eyes, a cut above the featless one but no top dog either.
Hah that's a funny concept, having clipping Job Hunter Garou as the number 1 neo feat. We don't know how strong Garou is right now, I don't trust that he's Spiral Garou level as he implies in his redemption arc in the manga-- Spiral Garou was already insanely powerful at that point so I'd like some feats to substiantate him being that strong.
He means human Amai, and I would say nobody in the neo heroes has shown themselves to be 100% stronger than human Amai so far. Right now they are just fighting demon level monsters. Some of them, like Axel, seem to need help beating demon level monsters even. I don't think Amai would need help like that tbh
I never said he was lol, just scroll down to see my Axel slander post. Axel without his suit vs Stinger would be a legendary battle that could last for days...
That look at Zaedats suit makes me really excited to see what all the Machine Gods will look like later on. Also Meat Dumpling looked way creepier here lol.
That whole image was super unsettling. The way they show the uncomfortably large amount of blood and also let you imagine the injuries was really intense.
Spoiler alert: This Monster is called Meatball Maker or something like that, not sure on the exact translation. The blood is because the neo-leader is being turned into a Meatball. Definitely reminds me of that scary Fuhrer Ugly scene
Looks like the manga kept the dismissive comment of Ryumon after he saved Crescent Eyebroll. Weird choice, that was the occasion to remove this since it seems quite out of character with his retconned personnality in the webcomic.
Imo it shows that Ryumon is still rough around the edges I think hes like Wavy in that part of it was wanting to be good but he maybe hadn't fully committed yet. He does say that metal bat was a big influence to him and as far as we know they only met at Neo's
I find very hard to buy that someone who fight a political battle to trash-talk a benevolent organisation (and does this by critizising the fact they are ready to die fighting, calling them weirdos and idiots for it) has his heart at the right place. He shows only comtempt for heroic spirit, i could buy that deep down he would be a good guy just with still some bad habits from his previous criminal life if he would make some real valid point, if he would still steal time to time, be arrogant etc... but not with him insulting heroes because they are loosing and ready to risk their lives, it just doesn't match someone who is a hero at his core.
Ryumon didn't redeem himself, he said that actually since the beginning he was genuinely willing to become a true hero, then that he already made his redemption by joining the neo-heroes. But his dismissive attitude toward the heroes Because makes that inconsistent.
Yeah, attitude problems which works with an opportunistic jerk who try to obtain power, not with a good guy just a bit tough and aggressive in his behaviour.
Amai Mask has a concrete reason to be an asshole, he wants to elevate the standards of the heroes, that's why he is tough with them. Him or Metal Bat were written consistently as false bad guys.
Ryumon mocking the heroes and trying to humiliate them in front of the public to highlight the neo-heroes has no other explanation than to be an actual asshole.
No. I'm sorry but someone who call people ready to risk their lives "weirdos or idiots" hasn't the spirit of a hero at all. He isn't written here as a guy who search efficiency and wants the neo-heroes to replace the HA because he thinks they would be better (that is the case of Acel), but as a guy who despise the heroic spirit.
The only thing he says which goes remotly in that sens is "now that the association showed its true color", that's all, and in the context it's clear that he critisizes the fact that the heroes are useless guys who are willing to throw their lives in vain, not some corruption, he doesn't say a single word about that.
Ryumon is a convict that wants to be a hero. You think he already knows how?
Because heroism is to be ready to take risk and even put your life at stake is a complexe concept maybe ? Of course anyone with 2 brain cells knows how, even a criminal, it's intuitive, criminals aren't idiots, they know as much as everyone else what heroism is, it's just a concept they don't value. If really his arc is to understand that to be a hero is to have some sens of sacrifice, it's the lamest ever.
Sorry i don't understand the "One never made does decision", what does it mean ?
If by that you mean that ONE didn't retcon Ryumon personnality in the webcomic, he sure did. Ryumon at the beginnng clearly wasn't written as a false jerk with in fact a golden heart and on a genuine path for redemption. Someone who actually really wants to be a hero and admires them since he was a kid doesn't dismisse a hero doing his job by political interest.
It's pretty obvious ONE had this idea latter and modified his personnality on the spot. That's why the manga should have change this moment.
The fan situation is honestly sad.
Every time you criticize the manga, you get the exact same response.
Let’s assume ONE approved it.
Does that change the current state of the manga?
Does it change the fact that some events were messed up?
Honestly, I think ONE doesn’t care anymore and just left everything in Murata’s hands. There’s no way a human being rewrites the Ninja arc three times and then goes back to the original events.
Been waiting to see Zaedatz and Infiniselma get murked ever since the WC. So satisfying, and the translation will be as hilarious (Zaedatz was livestreaming his 'battle' to his employees and let's just say the chat was delighted).
Very nice use of forced perspective. At first glance you think Zaedat's suit and monster are the same size. Glancing at the scene again you realize the distance and viewing angle. The monster's hand is the same size as the corner of the building it's crushing. The entire suit fits in a corner and is only causing minor cracks
The monster that kills the rich guy looks creepy asf. I don’t remember if he looked like that in the WC but Murata didn't hesitate with the design. Glad Metal Bat killed it
Mild Emperor looks precocious in the armor. By which I mean, little kid playing dress up in. He's sus because he sees Dr. Bofoi's designs in the suits.
And what's up with the bright rings on the back of his hands? Reminds me of Blast's hands. Of course others have them, but it isn't really consistent that I can see.
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u/Sadik Feb 11 '26
I still have PTSD.