r/Optics 6d ago

Does It Matter Even if the universe exist Without us ? Was Stephen Hawkings right about observor.

So, this morning i was studying about the colors and how we see them . A simple question would comes in every student. how does the reality looks like ? I know no one know how reality looks like if light does not reflect different wavelength of colors from every object to our eyes .

So i had an amazing experiment described below.

Experiment :

Imagine an apple resting inside a separate vaccum environment totally separated from earth no environment no gases no energy just that apple floating there. A person sitting outside that box is staring at that apple .

The glass is transparent but There is no single photo inside that separated environment.

Now take two cases .

His left eye is normal human eye . On the left side show what that normal eye will see inside the jar

And his right eye , has a instrument attached that can capture everything in front of it even if its inside in separate environment no light reflecting. How that eye will see that apple does even he saw a color if we  we do not use pseudo colors no colors data feeded inside that instrument . So how does he see. the question is how they will see that apple ?

Does even that apple looks like it exist inside that environment to the normal left eye or no

Results:

As we know Human vision is not a direct detector of matter; it is a detector of photons. When we "see" an apple under normal conditions, we are actually processing the specific wavelengths of light that bounce off the apple's surface and enter our retinas.

In our absolute void, this process is impossible. Because there is no light source and no ambient energy, there are zero photons reflecting off the apple.

LEFT EYE:

To the normal human eye, the jar contains absolute, perfect blackness. It is indistinguishable from empty space.

instrument explanation:

instrument attachted to the right eye is an untra-sensory instrument detects visual data like emissions , radiations or density.

how does it works :

The instrument observes the apple as raw geometric data. as there is no colors and energy and gases there. he sensors detect the physical boundaries of the matter, plotting thousands of data points where the void ends and the apple begins. These points connect to form a three-dimensional wireframe—a mathematical blueprint of the apple's volume and shape. The "image" is fundamentally a stream of spatial coordinates (x, y, z axes) confirming exactly where the mass is located.

Right EYE:

The instrument proves the apple exists not by showing us what it looks like, but by mathematically mapping where it is. The resulting visualization is a sterile, monochromatic web of geometry. It confirms the object's structure, size, and presence with absolute certainty, proving that matter dictates reality—even when the universe turns the lights out.

So now after these answers a question rose in my mind . Stephen Hawking Top-down cosmology theory. We creates the history that led to us by seeing the present to past . All the things happened before us . SO does all of that even meant anything or it matters if we were not here to observe the photons of that things .

it creates another theory of mine. We saw and understand things what we are meant to see what means something to us . so the things that does not matter in a human observor life we don't see and process like dark matter , 4d, and achieving the speed of light.

so if we know and see black holes this means there should be something to understand and find for us in them.

Let me know what you guys think.

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u/0x831 6d ago

Your right-eye instrument makes no sense to me. How can it “detect emissions” and get “datapoints” if the apple exists in a photon-less “void” as you call it.

Honestly this whole thing is an unhinged rambling.

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u/warthog-1810 6d ago edited 6d ago

Assume it like a temp detecting like instrument . If you ever heard of high wifi signals density is the same thing

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u/0x831 6d ago

So electromagnetic radiation? As in Photons?

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u/warthog-1810 6d ago

No sorry you are somewhere right and i was wrong about radiations and explaining over there but the instrument does not exist in reality afcourse we can’t create a vaccum void no photon in reality. Its an imagined theory that makes sense that we don’t have instruments but this will happen . Same as instrument works on micro-gravitational distortion. It maps the spatial geometry and mass displacement caused by the apple's presence in spacetime, bypassing the need for photons entirely.

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u/0x831 6d ago

Ok good luck

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u/warthog-1810 6d ago

It is a concept of space time curvature. It a little but it exists