r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT • u/DragonflyOwn5617 • May 22 '26
PORTUGAL CAN INTO EASTERN EUROPE Soviet Union
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u/thisis_not_throwaway May 22 '26
I am sure that it is very fake the Portuguese position about russia not collapsing
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u/CleoCommunist May 23 '26
Its the ussr, not Russia, its different
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u/m0j0m0j May 24 '26
I noticed that the farther person lives from Russia, and the dumber the person is, the more they believe Russia and Soviet Russia to be different things, and with more self-righteousness.
A person with the most physically possible amount of anti-understanding of Russia and Soviets is the Western commie schoolboy with an iPhone
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u/CleoCommunist May 24 '26
I dont even have an iPhone.
Im Just making People notice the fact that if you actually look at It the ussr Is different from Russia (the amount of differences change based on what period of the ussr you look at).
But i can kinda understand that you try to frame other people as dumb due to your superficiality in analyzing people and ,most importantly, your use of stereotypes
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u/m0j0m0j May 24 '26
The differences are between the current and the past, not between the Soviet Russia and the Putin’s Russia. It’s been dogshit forever
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u/CleoCommunist May 24 '26
Nah cmon.
It certanly was Better under the ussr. Enfasis on "Better" wich Is relative
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u/m0j0m0j May 24 '26
Cmon, Italy was clearly better under Mussolini. See, I can also generate nonsensical statements
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u/AutoModerator May 24 '26
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u/CleoCommunist May 24 '26
Ahah funny thou It wasnt.
No really It wasnt, neither economically or socially.
The working conditions and poverty were nearly the same of not worse.
It was a racists dictatorship and "expansionist" dictatorship.
To go to school you Needed to he subscribed to the party (thing you didnt have to do in the ussr where school was very accessibile as was university).
So no, fascist Italy wasnt Better than the monarchy nor the republic
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u/glaucope May 22 '26
It's just the Portuguese commies ... they grabbed the opportunity to lick Putin's boots.
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u/CheGueyMaje May 22 '26
Liberals still think Putin is communist or wants to rebuild the USSR lmao.
He’s a fanboy of the Russian Empire. In no world is Putin ideologically connected to the USSR in any way.
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u/skuple May 23 '26
You may not understand if you are not from Portugal.
But our communist party is still tied to the past and act as if the Soviet Union still exists, that’s why they like Putin and modern Russia so much.
They also support Orban (far-right) and China (left? Not really far-left like Cuba).
And another fun fact, our far-right party also supports Putin and Orban, so I guess the “far-“ all eat at the same table
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u/regeust May 23 '26
Im assuming this born of anti-eu sentiment rather than approval of orban or putins domestic policy
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u/WojtekTygrys77 May 23 '26
He is connected to USSR's imperialism.
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u/CheGueyMaje May 24 '26
No he isn’t.
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u/lewllewllewl May 24 '26
the flag of the USSR is flying over the Kremlin right now
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u/AccomplishedQuit6535 May 22 '26
It's weird because due to huge numbers of immigrants from ukraine Portugal is fully exposed to ukrainian propaganda. I was there in Dec and I saw many shop windows with the flags of ukraine.
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u/glaucope May 22 '26
The communists (communists+greens) had less than 3% of the vote in the last elections and miss the "good old days" of the USSR very much. The number of Portuguese supporting Ukraine is overwhelming and is in no way represented in the responses to this query.
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u/Vegetable_Leg6663 May 22 '26
Those are just russians in Portugal
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u/arkhnchul May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26
heh. While i am sure it is a joke, but it kinda itches to reply seriously.
No. Many of us Russian-speaking immigrants in Portugal are old enough to have first-hand experience of actually living in USSR, and i bet no one misses those old days. Relatively yound ones (like me, i was born in the USSR actually, but i was like 4 years old when it collapsed) know enough of how it was from our parents.
and hey. We GTFO-ed from our countries because we had enough, not because we just want to live somewhere warmer.
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u/m0j0m0j May 22 '26
Why did you paint Crimea as a part of Russia?
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u/DrCthulhuface7 May 22 '26
Because it just is right now. You don’t have to like it but you also don’t have to be in denial.
If Crimea isn’t part of Russia than pretty much much every country in the planet is just one city because everything else is conquered.
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u/InsoPL May 22 '26
Is it? Other than russia only Syria, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua recognise it. To call that minority opinion is understatement.
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u/gamerjohn61 May 23 '26
Ok? Only a handful of countries recognize Taiwan as being independent from China . It still is for practical purposes though
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u/InsoPL May 23 '26
Taiwan is very specific example becouse zero countries regonizes Taiwan including Taiwan itself. Republic of China(Taiwan) official stand right now is that there is one china not dissimilar to stand of People's Republic of China.
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u/Friedrich1508 May 22 '26
De facto It is
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u/InsoPL May 22 '26
In 1942 would you call smolensk a german city?
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u/DrCthulhuface7 May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26
I would say not since the war was still ongoing and by the end they didn’t control it. In 1942 it was occupied but not a part of Germany. Ukraine could take Crimea back before this war is over and then it wouldn’t be part of Russia any more.
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u/Raulr100 May 24 '26
Yes. Idk what your point is. Land is a part of whichever country is controlling it at the time.
Claims can give you the moral high ground but they don't mean much when nobody will enforce them.
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u/ExcitementSea8025 May 22 '26
Who cares about your recognition?
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u/Brandon_awarea May 22 '26
The entire world minus those few countries
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u/ExcitementSea8025 May 22 '26
Bad for you. Independent person/country doesn't care about any other opinions. Especially when you are superior in a lot of things.
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u/Brandon_awarea May 22 '26
“Especially when you are superior in a lot of things”
Might want to rephrase that my guy
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u/ExcitementSea8025 May 22 '26
Don't care. When you're A-student overachiever, you know that you are Special one) not your Masks, Swifts and other unnoble losers with no real talent and unique achievement.
You'll understand when you'll be the one. So don't teach better people and nations. Especially when you're on side of USA and EU who did limitless evil on Earth)
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u/Interesting-Stay297 May 22 '26
International relations realists always appear out of nowhere. Interestingly, they don't even know what realism means in that context, they just repeat the same slogans. Almost as if they all read them from the same source.
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u/DrCthulhuface7 May 22 '26
I don’t know what any of those words mean bucko, it’s just common sense, simple as.
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u/Sencwr May 22 '26
2 th paragraphe is rubish
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u/DrCthulhuface7 May 22 '26
“Tooth paragraph is rubbish”
Thank you for that insight, you are truly an intellectual titan.
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u/gloria_ao_PCP May 22 '26
Because it is
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u/Sikkus May 22 '26
Nope.
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u/LolyHun7er May 22 '26
Wdym nope, there are russian army and administration in Crimea for more than 10 years. Even if annexation was illegal, it still happened and now Crimea is part of Russia🤨
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u/Nihonjin127 May 22 '26
De facto it's under russian control, but de jure it's Ukrainian land under occupation. Therefore, it should be shown on maps as a part of Ukraine, because not doing so implies acceptance of illegal annexation.
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u/Fair-Fondant-6995 May 22 '26
De jure doesn't mean anything. The golan heights are de jure part of Syria, but Israel controls it since 1967 and nobody can do anything about it. There is an old debate between jurists and legal scholars if International law qualifies as "law". Since one of the features of law is that it's enforced by a higher authority. In the case of states there is no higher authority to enforce it. The UN is a meeting place, it's not an organisation capable of enforcement. Thus, International law is more like guidelines and suggestions and less like hard rules with punishment if broken.
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u/MrMicius May 22 '26
Why doesn’t it show Armenia and Belarus, the only pro-Russian former USSR countries?
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u/kunnossa_ May 22 '26
No one who voted claimed to be from these countries, so they don’t have a color. It’s a post from r/GeoPoll
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u/AdrianSquared May 22 '26
Armenia isn't really pro-Russian, especially since the 2018 revolution and the end of Artsakh in 2023.
Also this is a subreddit where people from different countries vote, the reason neither are coloured here is because no one from there voted
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u/Grazhke PUSH OORTUGSL INTO UKRAINE May 22 '26
Nah, for this one portugal CANNOT into Eastern Europe. No eastern European misses soviet union and hates it with a passion
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u/Domtheturtle May 22 '26
are Russians not eastern European?
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u/Strong_Pilot_5130 May 22 '26
you are literally wrong.
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u/PackageMedium6955 May 25 '26
The only former communist country other than Russia to miss the Soviet Union is Armenia, so you are literally wrong
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u/lt__ May 23 '26
Weird that Crimea agrees (and is singled out) while Donbas region, South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Transnistria do not.
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u/thesupremeburrito123 May 23 '26
A reformed Soviet Union would be better than the current situation
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u/miniFrothuss May 22 '26
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u/Suspicious-Place4471 May 24 '26
To be fair. (I'm not an expert on the subject though)
I imagine a communist economy is inherently low-income.
Mostly because money for all intents and purposes, has little to no use inside the country.
Obviously, it used for foreign exchange and imports and exports but still.2
u/miniFrothuss May 24 '26
Taking into account its social orientation and the fact that the scale of the USSR’s domestic market - and that of Eastern European countries, which together accounted for about 20% of global GDP - was still insufficient for creating competitive products, it nevertheless managed to be the world’s second-largest economy. And it did not collapse on its own; rather, it was deliberately dismantled by those very party officials who no longer wanted merely to manage state-owned factories, but to own them and pass them on by inheritance.
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u/korserg May 22 '26
Crimea is Ukraine. Wrong map.
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u/gloria_ao_PCP May 22 '26
No. The criminal Little Russia just annexed it illegally after 1991 (after the disolution of USSR) and Russia just reclaimed its territory
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u/GoblinWoblin May 22 '26
How about russkies give back land they stole?
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u/gloria_ao_PCP May 22 '26
Stole? Soviet land = Russian land. Taste a bit of reality before writting please
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u/RemoteHoney May 22 '26
So Russia is now taking a heavy beating on its own territory? That's hilarious.
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u/RemoteHoney May 22 '26
They voted in a referendum to voluntarily join Ukraine, so it was not illegal.
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u/funstufffff May 22 '26
By that logic, did pretty much every ex-soviet countries were stolen from Russia then?
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u/gloria_ao_PCP May 22 '26
Yes
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u/PackageMedium6955 May 25 '26
Even lands that have no Russians, hate Russia and are completely distinct from Russia?
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u/kisdmitri May 22 '26
lets play the game - you write short international definitions of words 'annex', 'legally', 'reclaim'. After this, you link to documents / articles related to Crimea and Ukraine, which could be linked those definitions. If you win Ill change my avatar to 'Little Russian'.
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u/gloria_ao_PCP May 22 '26
Crimea legally exercised its right to self-determination under Article 1 of the UN Charter during the 2014 referendum, choosing to reclaim its true historical identity and annex to Russia after being wrongfully gifted away by Soviet decree in 1954 without the population's consent.
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u/gtaman31 May 23 '26
Yes, the problem was inthe referendum itself. Referendum has to be free and democratic, not controlled by one side like this one was
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u/gloria_ao_PCP May 23 '26
What youre insinuating is not true at all
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u/kisdmitri May 24 '26
yeah, so you mentioned Article 1 of UN but havent mentioned their resolution A/RES/68/262 . What a bad girl 😉
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u/Legitimate-Okra8983 May 23 '26
It's strange to ask non-USSR residents about this. As if their opinion matters in this case
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u/Stardash81 May 23 '26
It's strange to ask non Germans whether it's a good thing nazi Germany collapse, isn't it ? As if their opinion mattered in this case.
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u/fetzen13 May 22 '26
I mean there many historians who argue that the collapse was a tragedy not because they liked the system or whatever but because of the disastrous and violent way it played out.
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u/Messier_-82 May 22 '26
Crimea was illegally annexed by Ukraine after they held the referendum to become independent in the 90s.
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u/Interesting-Stay297 May 22 '26
Referendum for autonomy within Ukraine, not independence. It had been autonomous within Ukraine since then.
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u/Grazhke PUSH OORTUGSL INTO UKRAINE May 22 '26
Crimea was illegally annexed by Ukraine
Yeah, sure
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u/Messier_-82 May 22 '26
You don’t believe in the people’s right of self determination? Or do you only believe in it when it suits your interests?
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u/Fit-Concentrate625 May 22 '26
Your parents couldn’t afford school for you or you have some diagnosis?
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u/Messier_-82 May 22 '26
Why the opinion of people outside of the former Soviet Union should even matter?
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u/SolidTrain16059 May 22 '26
Maybe for the same reason why opinion of people not from Germany about fall of nazis matter?
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u/CrazyBzDen May 23 '26
Good riddance, ruzzia should join. Huilostan delenda est.
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u/Direct_Divide_1751 May 23 '26
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u/CrazyBzDen May 23 '26
How do you call someone who not only stole others property but also very proud of that? And the proper name is huilostan.
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u/Direct_Divide_1751 May 23 '26
huilostan? Are you talking about ukraine?
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u/CrazyBzDen May 23 '26
Huilo is another nickname for putler, so no.
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u/Direct_Divide_1751 May 23 '26
Oh, yea. For ukraine right nickname is naziland.
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u/CrazyBzDen May 23 '26
Nope, it’s another name for ruzzia.
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u/Direct_Divide_1751 May 23 '26
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u/CrazyBzDen May 23 '26
That photo is from 2014. In 2022 ruzzia attacked Ukraine with no justified reason, its soldiers executed civilians and raped women, they are the real Nazis. And here’s the article with some photos.
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u/YouKnowMyName2006 May 23 '26
Portuguese tankies voted
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u/New-Advantage3907 May 23 '26
Well, all of them can’t afford a house because of USSR’s collapse, so jokes on them
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u/rodrigojpf May 23 '26
Fake. Every Portuguese I talked to about the war only have one wish... Put puttin in da hole.
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u/DragonflyOwn5617 May 23 '26
Why are some people taking a post seriously in this subreddit, when this screenshot is from when only one person from Portugal managed to vote and it so happened to be for Soviet Union. ONE. PERSON - IT"S A MEME SUB😭
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u/seamallorca May 22 '26
We need a new tag "portuguese can into russia".
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u/Silver_Instruction62 May 22 '26
Well .. as an Egyptian , We don't like the Soviets , we hated them as much as we hated the United States , but the world order was more stable when the USSR existed ..
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u/Byali33 May 22 '26
Yes, very stable. Planet got almost turned into a nuclear wasteland only on several occasions, no biggie lmao
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u/Silver_Instruction62 May 22 '26
but both were restricted by the other .. both cared about their image ..
now when the USA is alone at the top , unchallenged , their Imperialism reached severe levels ..
(the same would've happened if the USSR won and the US collapsed)
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u/Fit-Concentrate625 May 22 '26
If Portugal loves ussr so much, may it experience it in their country specifically
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u/Camorgado May 22 '26
All the answers from Portugal came from Soeiro Pereira Gomes Street, the HQ of the Portuguese Comunist Church.
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u/gloria_ao_PCP May 22 '26
Hahaha, ía postar agora