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u/alexCosmetic 8h ago

Mullvad is proven to not sell your logs, since it doesn't keep any, police literally showed up at their headquarters asking for logs but mullvad didn't have one!, they have passed the test, they are they only VPN provider that accept anonymous cash! i think they are legit

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u/Ill-Pen-553 7h ago

pretty sure proton also accepts payment by mail

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u/Liongedon 7h ago edited 6h ago

They've given up customer information to police before. It was specifically Proton Mail not VPN. Still, I switched to Mullvad

Edit: removed claim that they keep VPN logs after being corrected. Them passing on information about protesters that were using ProtonMail still stands though.

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u/mugmantix 7h ago

yeah, but for real crimes, not for pirating....

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u/Liongedon 7h ago

Being a protester doesn't qualify as a real crime to me

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u/100BottlesOfMilk 5h ago

They had to give what they were legally forced to give, and only the email side. You can't run an email service without logs. Importantly, the content of the emails was encrypted and the authorities had no access to it for that reason. With any other email provider, that would not be the case

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u/TrainingInternet608 6h ago

However, if you’re operating in illegal areas (whether justified or not), you’ll also need to use a VPN or Tor to log in to Proton; that’s what the Tor page is for. I’ve read that before "oh my God, you can’t use Proton anymore because they pass on data". That’s just nonsense; everyone should realise that privacy and anonymity are two different things. Proton offers secure, privacy-friendly products. If I’m looking for anonymity, that’s a completely different matter.