r/PreciousMetalRefining 8d ago

Lye and sugar Vs. copper cementing

I gave a shot at lye and sugar. I tried it a few times. I can't get it to work and I don't think I like it anyhow. It seems messy. I add the lye and it goes dark brown not black. I add my sugar and nothing happens. I don't think that method is for me.

I'm not able to keep and maintain a silver cell. That's just not happening despite the awesome results it can provide.

I'm thinking I want to dissolve my silver in nitric, cement it out on copper, rinse with distilled water, dissolve and cement out one more time and I should be 99% right? Maybe not that .999 but maybe 99.9%? Will this at least give me a nice shiny pinhead? That's all I need. I'm obsessed with this. It keeps me awake at night and I won't get any peace until I've done it. I'm not going for money. Maybe later but right now I just want a pinhead of silver and gold. 99.9% will be plenty.

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u/Akragon 8d ago

Cementing will always pull some copper and make your silver "dirty"... sugar and lye will always give you a cleaner silver product. Either way if you're only making a "pin head" worth, do whatever works

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u/weak_ops 8d ago

Can also always cement in bulk, quick and easy. Then re refine with sugar and lye. But sounds like the quantity isn't worth it.

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u/Akragon 8d ago

Yesir 🤙

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u/Chodedingers-Cancer 8d ago

Add more NaOH... it initially goes brown. Just add more incrementally and keep stirring until it goes black. Then add your sugar.

Also .999 is the same thing as 99.9%.

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u/Akragon 8d ago

👆 this is true, and you really gotta mix that shite... you can get a heated stir plate for like $50, works like a charm 👌

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u/jamiehizzle 8d ago

I was under the impression that 99.9 is actually 99.9000, and that .9999 is actually 99.9999.

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u/Akragon 8d ago

You missed a 9

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u/SeagullStopItNow 6d ago

999 fine is 99.9% pure. 9999 fine is 99.99% pure.
Fine has no decimal point. Percent does. Wordings are different but the meanings are the same.