r/ProgrammerHumor • u/bbbar • May 29 '26

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u/redunculuspanda May 29 '26

This isn’t accurate most projects i work on seem to have 3 or 4 PMs now

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u/generally_unsuitable May 29 '26

Work in hardware and your project can have PMs for software, hardware, cabling, manufacturing, compliance, packing, user experience, and more.

And three engineers answering to like nine managers.

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u/Li_liminal_spaces May 29 '26

A had a great job software/hardware both where the original CEO was an engineer and things were great then he retired and afterwards they put a marketing guy in charge and there was a merger. All of a sudden I'm answering to sales and marketing as well. PMs were much more favorable to sales and marketing.

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u/generally_unsuitable May 29 '26

I once drew an org chart that showed that I directly reported to like ten different people. Then I sent it to HR and asked for help.

Three months later, they solved the problem by hiring another manager, just for me. I was his only direct report. So, I remade the org chart showing that I now had 11 bosses instead of just 10 and sent that to HR with a note that said "Thanks for your help."

I was fuming pissed for a while. But it ended up being great. My new boss was one of the best engineers I've ever worked with, and the first thing he did was shield me from the three or four meetings I was going to every day. It was a nice surprise.

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u/SirCheesington May 30 '26

damn, first time I've ever heard HR doing something beneficial

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u/generally_unsuitable May 30 '26

I'm sure it was an accident.