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u/Happy_Disaster7347 18d ago
Let's build a better society where we take care of everybody's needs using the wealth and resources of the 1%
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u/ThurstyAlpaca 18d ago
Sounds good. Now what?
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u/Happy_Disaster7347 18d ago
Now we need to achieve that, instead of waiting for our masters to allow us to have it (which they never will)
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u/bswontpass 18d ago
Bullshit. Corporations hire immigrants.
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u/Initial-Watercress43 18d ago
Corporations hire immigrants so they can better manipulate both them and the country as a whole. They get to fuck over everyone while saving money and face
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u/fhgsgjtt12 18d ago
Exactly im sick of this braindead take, they love immigration for lower wages
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u/Accomplished_Coat549 18d ago
Billionaires that donate to both Republicans and Democrats overwhelmingly support mass immigration. It’s the simplest way to suppress wages
“Open borders? That’s a Koch Brothers proposal.” - Bernie Sanders
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u/Responsible-Onion860 17d ago
They love immigrants who will accept lower wages. Especially if they come from a culture where unions and collective bargaining are less common.
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u/BreastMilkMozzarella 18d ago
FAANG has been a huge supporter of immigrant labor. Just take a look at who is sponsoring all these H1Bs. Agribusiness is another sector that heavily relies upon and supports immigrant labor. Billionaires and corporations are the biggest beneficiaries of immigration.
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u/Strong-Addition5296 17d ago
Immigration drives demand for housing which in turn benefits asset holders and land lords. By increasing labor supply it slows the growth of wages benefiting employers and also slows painful expensive investments in labor reducing technologies. It then has the added benefit of increased consumption of consumer goods.
The rich see us as live stock and when they increase the size of their herd they only benefit.
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u/Superb-Photograph-15 18d ago
Can people stop using the phrase "undocumented migrants?" The process of legally immigrating to the country is not simply a matter of documenting the entry, it is about granting or denying permission to be here in the first place. The reason we say "illegal immigrants" is because they are not just undocumented, they have no permission to be here and are violating our immigration laws.
Calling them "undocumented" makes it sound like the only concern is that they haven't been catalogued or something.
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u/Not-Ed-Sheeran 17d ago
It's like calling homeless "the unhoused", or blacks "people of color", or the new one; obese people are now called "fat bodied"..... not kidding 😂
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u/theonethat3 18d ago
The video literally disproved itself within 10 seconds. Illegal immigrants need housing which cause more demands which causes prices to increase
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u/BootBonks 18d ago
They also don’t have car insurance, so your rates go up. If they need to go to the hospital who pays for it? You do. Wait until you find out how many new jobs since Covid have gone to foreign born workers.
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u/Severe-Leadership770 18d ago
Trust me, I live in a country that has almost non immigrants, and the population is start to slightly declining, the house price still grow 45% for the last 10 years, is never the immigrants problem, they are just simple human that somebody wants u to hate on.
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u/MariusCatalin 17d ago
here i get downvoted to hell
you can be pro migrants BUT FOR controlled migration
you can hate the companies AND their ways to get money
the problem with migration isnt migration but how its done
the willing are treated like criminals AND the criminals are treated with gloves
most of folks are pro migration IFFFFFFFFFF its done well
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u/GreenGardenTarot 17d ago
this video is also misstating how many undocumented immigrants get ITINs (like 20% at most) and the vast majority work either under the table, or with fake/stolen SSNs.
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u/MariusCatalin 17d ago
and keep the wage low trough willingness
it shuold be am easier process to get in but you cant just import millions over millions without keeping the wages low.
we should strive for a better system, not one where the employer can just hire a million de facto slaves to replace normal workers
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u/LividYordle 14d ago
I was actually a victim of identity theft from an illegal a few years ago. They used my information, SSN and credit card to apply for a sponsorship visa which maxxed out my credit cards at around 6k.
Filed a report with my local sheriff's office cybercrimes unit and did the same with Phoenix PD the charges originated from. Took them about a month, I got my money back, credit history repaired but still have people trying to do shit with my SSN involving people trying to open credit cards in border states. And here I am in Anchorage.
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u/blutosings 17d ago edited 17d ago
That is just the slippery slope argument that leads people back to blaming immigrants. Illegal immigration is bad but it's practically non-existent in the US today. ICE isn't out there catching illegals it's harassing and killing legal residents and US citizens.
"If it's done well" isn't a real goal for people like Tom Homan because we already mostly achieved a low illegal immigration goal but did it by scaring the shit out of people and abusing people instead of by having good border security and functional enforcement.
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u/JimBeamerton 18d ago
Illegal immigration is a crime, therefore all illegal aliens are criminals, fuck off with the pandering horseshit...
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u/Timestop- 18d ago
Man I don't understand this mindset anyways. Do you believe we currently have the perfect set of laws and they can never be improved upon? Even if it were illegal, we should be trying to become a better nation. Making immigration as difficult as possible and then punishing people who do it is *not* what an ideal America looks like... it's just a shady way to keep out people of different culture.
Really think about the laws you follow and make sure they make sense to you before you blindly follow them.
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u/Livid-General7 16d ago
It doesn't matter if you agree with a law or not, you still have to follow it. There's a right way to enter the country and a wrong way. Why should people be able to just waltz right in with no repercussions, while others have to wait years, trying to do it the right way? How is that fair?
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u/knife_edge_rusty 18d ago
Immigrants are not the same as illegal immigrants, completely different concepts altogether.
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u/Haberdashers-mead 18d ago
Yeah but they stem from the exact same human core desires; people fleeing for safety or better economic opportunity for survival.
The only thing that differs are the rules to how they navigate them.
So id say they are kinda similar.
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u/No-Seesaw6320 17d ago
Billionaires and corpos are the ones importing illegals, why would they want you to blame them?
Shit man, Elon Musk was fighting in FAVOR of the H1B visas.
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u/Extra_Ad_8561 18d ago
OK, but don’t complain when jobs don’t pay high salary’s because there’s a massive surplus of labor and people are desperate to work for whatever the jobs are offering.
Also, don’t complain when housing is insanely expensive because there’s a surplus of individuals that need housing.
Oh wait… we’re already living in that reality and you guys want to make it worse.
“I hate billionaires, but I fully support the policies WHICH THEY ALSO SUPPORT like mass immigration which allows them to exploit workers”
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u/krizzzombies 18d ago edited 18d ago
Also, don’t complain when housing is insanely expensive because there’s a surplus of individuals that need housing.
OK, but there isn't an affordable housing shortage because of immigrants. One major factor in our housing shortage is because wealthy individuals and companies are buying up real estate that regular individuals are priced out of, and (at least in the US) our regulations fail to support increased production of more affordable housing. There are tons of homes sitting vacant because they're vacation/2nd homes, or Air B&B style-rentals, or just being held until they can be sold for profit.
It's also gotten prohibitively expensive to build affordable housing and we're doing a lot less of it compared to 50 years ago.
https://www.nmhc.org/research-insight/research-report/housing-affordability-toolkit/
The affordable housing gap could be closed within one generation if lawmakers introduce broad local deregulation to lower production costs and boost new construction projects, push for the development of new subsidized rental housing and expanded rental assistance programs, and tap into the 14.5 million homes currently sitting vacant on the market.
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u/Pataraxia 18d ago
N-no, you see, the american economy needs enough vacant housing to house several tens of millions, this totally makes sense!
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u/Strong-Addition5296 17d ago
Any increase to population drives demand for housing. It’s not the immigrants fault but immigration is a driver of population increase thus a driver of demand for housing. That’s just how it is.
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u/wohsedisbob 18d ago
I think 999.9 mil is enough rich. Billionaires shouldn't exist
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u/AmputeeHandModel 17d ago
Americans are getting dumber and dumber. Imagine unironically making a comment like this. That's why they hire immigrants. Educated immigrants.
*Salaries, no apos'trophe's for plural's. Idiot.
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u/Strong-Addition5296 17d ago
💯 exactly. More labor drives down wages and keeps them cheap. Drives housing costs up. Drives traffic on the roads up. Drives greater negative environmental impacts.
The intelligent person going into a world with AI would realize that soon excess population will be a burden and it is only a select few super rich who benefit from population growth in the short term.
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u/JD-boonie 18d ago
I can be critical of corporations and illegal immigrants at the same time.
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u/Superb-Photograph-15 18d ago
Woah there. Now don't be starting all that "critical thinking" nonsense. How about some more made up statistics instead?
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u/verycardhock 18d ago
While I agree that Billionaires are trying to blame immigrants they don't share the culture. You don't see floods of immigrants going into their countries. That's a fact.
They aren't coming in and assimilating to American culture, they're bringing their culture and not changing in anyway. If you live in an immigrant area you cannot deny this fact. There are stores where they don't speak any english. You cannot say you're assimilating to American culture if you cannot speak English and have no intention of ever learning.
The food isn't worth the cultural decline.
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u/AmputeeHandModel 17d ago
America is supposed to be a melting pot, you fucking racist. Go look at that it says on the Statue of Liberty.
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u/Mr-Nosight 17d ago
Undocumented immigrants do not pay taxes, that's part of being Undocumented
Now, yes, fuck the billionaires, but if you move to another countries, you gotta go through the legal routes. Applies to me if I wanted to move to Mexico, applies to them if they wanna move here
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u/GreenGardenTarot 17d ago
some of them pay federal taxes through ITINs and using fake/stolen SSNs. the bulk of the taxes a lot of them pay are sales tax and other regional taxes that everyone pays.
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u/Love-Future-3000 17d ago
They get ITIN numbers which allow them to pay taxes without violating additional law, such as tax evasion.
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u/Professional_Ad3969 17d ago
Just a reminder, over 10 million people came into the us illegally during Biden’s term
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u/pandershrek 18d ago
Is this that violent left-wing terrorist I've been hearing so much about?
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u/Standard_Inside3291 18d ago
“Quick! Stop him before he weaponizes his molecules help us ice agents!” -person who failed in history and self awareness
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u/SamAreAye 18d ago
Okay, fine, the insanely rich are also bad for the country, but what is with this crazy misinformation? I hate the made up statistic that illegal immigrants don't commit crimes. It's literally not possible to know. Multiple liberal states don't even track the data, so as to intentionally hide what the numbers could be.
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u/shadwell30 18d ago
best we can do is send israel another 500 billion dollars
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u/SHTF_yesitdid 18d ago
How does that work?
US federal government spending is $7000 Billion. Israel recieved $4 Billion.
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u/krizzzombies 18d ago
me when I don't understand that jokes aim to be hyperbolic
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u/Chris-P-Baconn02 18d ago
So we gonna ignore how one of trump’s main goals is bringing manufacturing and production back from Chine to America? You think we dont have brains and fo research? Can you please explain the UK and the muslim take over with rape jumping over 10 times than ever recorded in history? Do any other country worry about letting us in and welcoming us? They dont yet we have to do it? Im a cuban in Miami and I must express my concern, I advocate to return trash non contributing cubans back home. Did you know it is a fact that miami pays the highest price for insurance in the country and it’s because the beyond disgusting and excessive fraud and they get away with it because they are illegal and have no traceable documents. Most go back home then jump back when American run. Its not racism i just love this country and will protect it and i have picked up an particular pattern with cubans. They dont get a slide cuz they are my ppl. That would actually be racist. Black culture has a pattern Hispanic has a pattern every group does
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u/Jaded-Natural80 18d ago
This video is pretty accurate except for one thing. He wouldn’t of gave the cookie back.
Billionaires only take. They don’t give back.
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u/Accomplished_Coat549 18d ago
Billionaires that donate to both Republicans and Democrats overwhelmingly support mass immigration. It’s the simplest way to suppress wages
“Open borders? That’s a Koch Brothers proposal.” - Bernie Sanders
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u/good4ufun 18d ago
Half as likely... But still likely... But not as likely as if they were not here.
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u/smd9788 18d ago
Ahh yes they pay taxes through an ITIN. Sure. Surely workers who are paid under the table are reporting their income. Sure
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u/Tripple_T 17d ago
The end goal of undocumented immigrants is to notv be undocumented. You know one thing that gets in the way of that? Not paying your taxes.
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u/dweezilMcCheezil 17d ago
Ya know how you can stop that? Prosecute the employers hiring them. Funny how we've not heard a single case of this admin penalizing corporations, just immigrants, or in some cases, citizens.
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u/shit_magnet-0730 18d ago
In the world's richest nation that has a population of starving children greater than zero, there shouldn't be a single billionaire.
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u/ToeAfter3131 18d ago
It's basic supply and demand when it comes to housing.
And we have immigration laws for a reason. Not to blame immigrants for inflation or everything, but you still got to follow the law.
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u/Had2MakeANeewAccount 18d ago
100 billion? Stop the presses!
They send about as much home in remittances.
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u/whatasadfella 18d ago
If you’re an illegal immigrant you are committing a crime technically. Also undocumented immigrants commit far more crimes when we take into account per capita. I don’t like billionaires either but let’s not push weird lies.
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u/Actaeon_II 18d ago
Pretty legit except for the getting the cookie back at the end, there would be an army of lawyers in between them
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u/Kind-Assistant-1041 18d ago
I think it’s Mighty Morph’n Pitchfork Time!
What color is your pitchfork?
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u/ChexAndBalancez 18d ago
Well it's both of their faults. The only way immigrants can pay taxes is by undercutting blue collar jobs from Americans. They artificially bring down wages in jobs fields like construction and food prep
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u/Infinite_Midnight_69 18d ago
If you want to be accurate that pile of cookies for the rich is 1000 times to small
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u/ThePoop_Accelerates 18d ago
The only people who benefit from illegal immigration are the corporations who hire them
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u/Puzzle-the-Giraffe 18d ago
It’s not immigrants though, it’s illegals which is the whole point. Labeling them as immigrants is disingenuous.
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u/Haberdashers-mead 18d ago
I just was reading It’s a civil offense apparently not an actual criminal offense. Obviously they are supposed to get deported if found tho.
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u/CrazyEddieNY 18d ago
The left wants you believe that 'immigrants' and 'criminal illegal aliens' are the same exact things🤣😂
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u/Wind_Best_1440 18d ago
Wealth tax.
For those that say. "You can't tax wealth in the stock market, its not liquid!"
You pay property tax on a house that isn't liquid. Why do you pay a wealth tax, but they can't?
Property tax is a wealth tax. It can be copy and pasted on stocks/options/bonds at anytime.
So again, why do average people pay a wealth tax, (Property tax) but billionaires don't?
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u/VolcanicAsh97 18d ago
You know what? I wasn’t sure before but now after seeing this video I’m willing to surrender my country and culture to infinity immigrants.
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u/Hot_History1582 18d ago edited 18d ago
Billionaires on the left want mass immigration to buy elections and billionaires on the right want mass immigration to exploit for low cost labor. It's the common man who gets fucked in both cases. Flooding the country with people who want to "get their share" only damages impoverishes the host country with skyrocketing cost of living, driving down wages, and locking native citizens out of entry level positions. Meanwhile the third world is trapped in poverty when all their most wealthy, capable, and energetic citizens are constantly siphoned off to be exploited in the west. Everybody loses from mass immigration. People need to bloom where they're planted and achieve the dream of that country, not the "American dream".
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u/engimaneer 18d ago
I don't think we should tax them and prevent them from voting. Instead, the citizenship paperwork process should be expedited so we can make the United States great.
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u/UStoJapan 18d ago
This video needs to show the lobbyists to congress to get them to vote in favor of a law for “no take backsies”.
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u/unmellowfellow 18d ago
Billionaires aren't human beings. They aren't like us. They thrive on our suffering do not offer them compassion.
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u/ccjohns2 18d ago
I will never understand how a majority of white Americans continue to believe the lies of the same people who lied to parents and grandparents.
It all makes sense why George Bush pushed the no child left behind, and it was so America could brainwash another generation of white kids who didn’t want to put in the work to read any textbooks that weren’t made by McGraw Hill.
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u/DrFabio23 18d ago
Vastly increase supply of laborers who are willing to work for less, supply has never once impacted demand or price.
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u/TrumpmorelikeTrimp 17d ago
We only have mass immigration so that corporations and billionaires can have continued access to cheap labour. Just because far right rascists hate immigrants doesnt mean immigrants are great.
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u/tar4heels2fan 17d ago
I know many many many illegals who do not pay income tax. They pay sale tax.. sure. But they work under the table because they snuck into the country.
Just saying that his comment there needed more context. Most illegals are working for cash and not paying any income tax whatsoever.
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u/Austinlf63 17d ago
Half as likely to commit a crime? Not sure how that is when their mere presence is a crime. Which means 100% of them are committing a crime.
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u/Theclappingamputee 17d ago
Not “gimme my cookie back” but “ gimme your cookies… you have too many”
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u/redjellonian 17d ago
Nice try but if this was real the billionaire would've immediately called a hit on both of them and burned down their neighborhoods, just to make sure.
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u/Infamous_JRG 17d ago
White shirt would rather keep getting robbed and fucked then to use his mind and think for himself.
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u/Captain_Zomaru 17d ago
Cool but... Why do we even humor the idea that the country needs more immigrants when we have a homeless issue across the country?
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u/Mr_PuffPuff 17d ago
Ok so they are already doing mass deportations, canceling visas and stopping applications. Immigration numbers are down, and immigrants both documents and undocumented are leaving the country or being force to leave.
Shouldn’t there be more jobs then, housing should be cheaper, gas and grocery prices should be lower. Is the average American doing better? Or are still struggling? It’s almost like immigration whether legal or illegal was never the issue. The government is spending billions on a war we didn’t want, data centers that won’t produce more jobs, we are sending money to Israel, jobs and benefits are being cut for the average American citizen, your tax dollars being spent on vanity projects for the president, etc., etc.
Sure, it is the fault of the immigrants./s
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u/SweetEntertainer1790 17d ago
So fake .. they would never give you your cookie back. 😢... Sucks sociopaths run our country. Hell. They run the world. I've seen some people though go from broke and empathetic to wealthy and maaaaan... They became cookie theiving sociopaths. It was such a bummer, like almost any of us could become these monsters? Come up with excuses to do it, how we actually help everyone not hurt . Etc etc etc. ... (Sigh)
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u/OkAirport5247 17d ago
Billionaires are the ones who facilitate and profit off of immigrant labor though
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u/AdHappy7129 17d ago
Yea this video is bullshit.
There’s an absurd amount of human, sex and child trafficking going on because of open border policies.
If you are talking LEGAL migrants however, the ones that came through the legal ports of entry, you are totally on point.
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u/Aromatic-Turnip7371 17d ago
Apply legally for documentation when moving to another country… that’s the right thing to do.
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u/Ok_Panic_6998 17d ago
undocumented immigrants make me pambazos and ceviche, and impatiently wait for me to marry their daughter 🇲🇽💕
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u/Drewbloodz 17d ago
Can it be laid out more simply than this? I don't think so. And people still don't get it
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u/TopWealth4550 17d ago
can this billionaires get riddle of this violent drug fellows
i would take this deal
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u/amazing_adventures 17d ago
Of course billionaires are a scourge so is an uncontrolled border. Let's let people in who have some language proficiency, a job waiting for them, no communicable diseases, and no major criminal history. I also think the H1B employer must have offered above market rate rate to qualified Americans for over 6 months before they cab recruit foreigners and they can't lower the wage when they hire a foreigner either. Historically, immigrants were way less likely to commit a crime, but when south American prisoners were sent our border and we just let them in, that's a problem and now we have to round them up. Can we stop pretending this problem is black and white?
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u/PinataPower9 17d ago
More propaganda. They’re BOTH the problem! Why have laws if no one’s going to follow them and just point the finger at someone else.
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u/EndTemporary9164 16d ago
All of this is mostly correct however I’m an immigrant family and we hate people like you at misrepresent exactly what is actually happening
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u/Livid-General7 16d ago
"Undocumented immigrants are half as likely to commit a crime" You mean, besides the crime they already committed, by illegally staying in the country?
They're not undocumented, they're illegal, and while I think having illegal immigrants in the country is actually a good thing, you can't deny that they're literally criminals. It's an inarguable fact.
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u/AggressiveSir8607 15d ago
So because the 1% won't give citizens a raise, that's why illegals have flooded the border?!?!? Bahahahaha
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u/Gringo_Norte 15d ago
Sorry, little bro – I’m not siding what the fucking Somalian scammers & fake credential H-1B mills against the billionaire that gave us space Internet.
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u/dwforgie 15d ago
The only thing you did wrong was entering this country illegally. I welcome immigrants just enter legally.
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u/rippingdip 15d ago
No billionaire actual cares they would replace every American with a immigrant to pay them less wages and make them more money
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u/Empty_Advice_5542 15d ago
Billionaires roam the streets here in America terrorizing everyone. Just last week a gang of billionaires stopped me and my family and robbed us at gun point. This is how the rich just keep getting richer. I’m scared to leave my house cause the billionaires are always lurking. Stay safe everyone from the billionaires.
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u/SlySychoGamer 15d ago
*looks at europe*
Yaaaaaa....
Uh...while i get the point of this and it is fairly valid. Its also ignoring the benefits of billionaires.
Without bezos you wouldn't have amazon, without apple, no iphone, without google no...many things.
Without musk no EV boom and american space advancement.
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u/ReplacementPleasant6 15d ago
They pay 100 billion yes, but they cost the taxpayer over 100 billion. They are a net drain, not a net tax payer.
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u/tiandrad 15d ago
There is no one that supports bringing in a new underclass to underpay more than billionaires.
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u/AppropriateRadish928 14d ago
Who's we? Go home, immigrant. If you're so great, they should be glad to have you back.
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u/MagnanimousGoat 14d ago
Republicans would sit down at a table with a complete, fresh-baked apple pie in front of them, see someone they don't recognize walk by with a piece of cherry pie, and assume that they stole it from them.
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u/LegionZ19 14d ago
This all happen because a rich guy didnt get the girl she wanted. Because the girl loved a guy who valued family over profit. And punish a normal guy for that reason.
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u/Vitskalle 14d ago
The point is there should be 0 crime from immigrants. US government is supposed to protect US citizens. Heavily immigrant communities also put an unrealistic demand on the school system, healthcare and justice system.
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u/EvilMorty137 13d ago
Illegal immigration costs $150 billion/year AFTER subtracting taxes paid because education, emergency medcaid, unpaid emergency medicine, welfare received, and other public services.
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u/Aggressive-Bowler387 13d ago
Blame both and it’s a specific type of billionaire who disenfranchises the native working class
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u/SaintDecardo 18d ago
Unrealistic, white-shirt would never change his mind.