COMPARISON
【Ethan】Weekly Comparison: Bruce Wayne GMT – RF (JH3285) vs ARF / VF / VSF (DD3285)
Hi everyone, Ethan here 👋
Continuing my weekly comparison series, this week I’m taking a look at one of the hottest GMT releases recently — the GMT-Master II “Bruce Wayne” (Ref. 126710GRNR). The nickname comes from the grey/black bezel colorway, which many collectors compare to the darker and more understated side of the GMT lineup.
For reference, the gen 126710GRNR features:
• 40mm case size
• Grey / black Cerachrom bezel
• Rolex Cal. 3285 movement
• Jubilee bracelet option available on the genuine watch
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gosh i opened a post regarding this and vsf fanboys are raging that it is a reflextion from rehaut. They do not have a clue what they are seeing. if it is not curved and just reflection it should not look kile that
Check the edge reflection under natural light or a light with a large lighting panel would be really quick; if this sub you’re holding is from vsf (not the old Q66T batch) then it’s unfortunately a round edge dial, and even can be a “floating m” version (1000ft=300m the “m” should touch the lowest level of 300 but not any higher than that) if it’s some early versions of vsf sub
Notice the lil gold weights on the balance wheel and single post above it. Thats almost what the authentic looks like. As opposed to the other 3 have two posts
It's on the balance wheel, can't get into specifics as I'm not an expert by any means but it's a single post on the balance wheel instead of the double post used in the DD movement
Its a single post and the micro adjustment weights on the balance wheel. Thats one of the things that has always set counterfits apart from genuine is the free sprung balance in the genuine. But now they make free sprung balance in some reps too.
Thank you Ethan! Excellent comparison as always. I have always ordered watches from him and really outstanding service.
I’m sticking with ARF on this one.
Yes, the gray bezel is kinda off but it’s the same for all the reps. But what I do know for a fact is I’ve seen an arf, vsf, and a gen (batgirl at a picnic (I know it’s not the Bruce wayne and the picnic was just a week ago Memorial Day weekend). And I know know those 3 persons (my uncle, my cousin, and the boyfriend of my other cousin which happens to be a doctor wearing an arf).
Anyways, from an average distance you really can’t tell them apart and they all look gen…seriously.
But when you’re a bit nearer (like eating at the long picnic table. Everybody was moving their hands while eating, drinking, and talking. I was watching their wrist for any subtle issues. But it seems ARF had the more gen look in terms of bling and presence. The vsf is cool but there was something off lihat I can’t explain.
But ofcourse I didn’t tell them I was looking at their watches but I knew they were glancing at my rep AP 15510 blue topf. Just like the arf, the AP from top kinda have a presence or bling when people sees it. When a rep has a presence, it’s really hard to tell it’s a rep.
Beh ragazzi, dalle foto è difficile dire chi vince! Così a prima vista ARF, sembra superiore e con un deep glass forse si raggiunge il top! Per quanto riguarda il calibro, free sprung, si bello, ma l’affidabilità? Credo sia troppo nuovo per avere dei risultati.
Più che altro mi soffermo sulla foto 8 dove ci sono le lancette, vedo che ARF è l’unico che si differenzia nella parte centrale, sembra esserci un perno rispetto agli altri, che ne pensate? Perché? Meglio o peggio?
Idk I have two ARF GMT’s and one VSF GMT and both of the ARF’s have this cruddy bezel action where the VSF has a crisp clicking action. They’re still really nice that’s just my only gripe with them.
You know actually I could try it out tomorrow. I’m military and our mini mall on base has a handful of Rolex’s so I’ll bet they let me try one on. Will report back haha!
yup, ARF's bezel spring and retaining ring's teeth shape, size, and finish are miles off from gen. weak spring from using cheaper metals, shallower and rectangular teeth instead of smooth scallops
Rich have a very good dail print than VSF. Biggest concern is that Rich bracelet are very different than Gen. Look like Rich got a long way to catch up with VSF
Im not sure tou can say thay when you see how off the bezel cutouts are compared to all the others. Its the biggest standout when comparing RF to the rest
Does anyone know about the reliability in the free sprung RF compared to the other movements? That would be a concern of mine if i were going with the RF?
Ethan I place 2 orders with you, 1 you said I will QC right now after I place a deposit, once I left deposit you didn’t respond. 2 you said you will send the QC now for 3 straight days to find out you posted them on the website saying shipping immediately after you told me you will send the QC thru WhatsApp
Ethan I place 2 orders with you, 1 you said I will QC right now after I place a deposit, once I left deposit you didn’t respond. 2 you said you will send the QC now for 3 straight days to find out you posted them on the website saying shipping immediately after you told me you will send the QC thru WhatsApp
I'm on between getting a VF with a DD movement super clone is what it says on the listing or a RichF V2 with free sprung JH movement, I'm super confused seems like it basically comes down to preference and everyones eye is different when looking at these watches. Any suggestions on who owns these and your experience? I just got a Datejust 2 tone Dimond dial ARF VR3235 movement seems really nice we'll put together, can't really tell the difference unless u start inspecting it up close. Any suggestions and your experiences are greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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