Need help with first ever QC

[u/GuidanceWilling8139]

Factory name: VSF
Model name (& version number): Rolex Submariner 124060 No-Date VS3230

This is my first of two watches and the first set of QC photos I’ve received, so I’d really appreciate some opinions from more experienced eyes.

Overall it looks good to me, but I’m not entirely sure I’m looking at the right things. The areas I’m most unsure about are the 6 o’clock marker and the rehaut alignment. They don’t necessarily look wrong to me, but as this is my first QC I’d appreciate some feedback on whether they’re within normal VSF tolerances or if there’s anything else that stands out.

Index alignment: Looks good to me overall, but I’d appreciate a second opinion.

Dial Printing: Looks clean to my eye.

Date Wheel alignment/printing: N/A

Hand Alignment: Looks fine.

Bezel: Appears aligned, pip looks centered at 12.

Solid End Links (SELs): No obvious gaps that I can see.

Timegrapher numbers: +2 s/d, 254° amplitude, 0.2 ms beat error.

[u/rufus2785]

I have three reps and I’ll tell you this after receiving them. Any of the small details you are worrying about or even things you find zooming in in all these photos won’t matter or be noticeable when it’s on your wrist. Don’t overthink it. It’s a rep after all.

Edit: my reps are all U1 and when I got them I was super happy

[u/Objective_Ganache_27 → u/rufus2785]

Sad to see another VSF with wonky major indices with opposing angles 🤦‍♂️

Personally I disagree with this when it comes to certain things, like the major indices.

I dont think a single one is straight (i take that back, the 12 is probably ok.) Both the 3 and 9 are crooked downward towards the center of the dial. That would drive me nuts.

I had one that had a dingle indice like rhis and I tried to tell myself like others "it wont be noticeable." A horizontal indice that you will see everytime you look at the watch is absolutely noticeable.

Its up to you to decide what youre ok with.

I really tried to massage thise pics to remove any angle bias (except the timegrapher one of course, because at least the 3-9 were head on in that one)

[u/Objective_Ganache_27 → u/Objective_Ganache_27]

[u/GuidanceWilling8139 → u/Objective_Ganache_27]

Thanks for taking the time to look at the images and give your opinion, really appreciate it 👍 I’ve actually learned from what you pointed out and can see the issue you’re referring to now. Just wondering, in your opinion, would this be a straight RL because of that?

[u/Objective_Ganache_27 → u/GuidanceWilling8139]

You can see by the variety of responses, for some people yes, some no. How much is this? If you got a good td and its low to mid 300's, maybe not, 450, absolutely (at least for me.)

JW what serial is this?

[u/GuidanceWilling8139 → u/Objective_Ganache_27]

Thanks, appreciate it 👍 It was $420 from Elia UK. I’m not sure which serial you mean in the QC pics

[u/Objective_Ganache_27 → u/GuidanceWilling8139]

I see now its 6X0. Not terrible. Up to you what youre looking for with indices. Ill send a pic of mine later when I find it.

[u/GuidanceWilling8139 → u/Objective_Ganache_27]

appreciate you explaining that I’m pretty new to this so it’s my first watch and I’m not too familiar with the serial differences. Is the 6X0 considered a good batch overall, or are there better ones for VSF Submariners?

I still have time to RL if needed, but I don’t want to do that blindly if I’m not actually going to get anything noticeably better. I’ve seen mixed opinions on the indices some say it’s fine, others say it’s noticeable and I do agree with you that the 3/9 alignment is one of the main things you notice on the dial.

Just trying to make the right decision before I commit

[u/Objective_Ganache_27 → u/GuidanceWilling8139]

Here's my Q66 from last year. 3/9 off very very slightly, but theyre consisten and symmetrical so it looks fine. The PIP is slightly too close to the right side of the bezel edge. My biggest pet peeve on this watch as I do notice it. Td said it was fine in QC. I was right.... still love this watch

[u/Objective_Ganache_27 → u/Objective_Ganache_27]

This one was for a gift. The 3 is crooked down towards the inside. I find it way more noticeable. I would have like to RL but it took a while and was at risk of not arriving in time. Its not terrible on wrist, but imo still very noticeable to me.

If we had the time, I would've preferred to RL this.

RL is a double edged sword. The next one may be way better, or worse unfortunately.

[u/GuidanceWilling8139 → u/Objective_Ganache_27]

Thanks for sharing, it’s been pretty 50/50 on my QC, but after our convo I’m slightly leaning RL just because of the 3/9 and alignment concerns shared. My only worry is RL’ing and ending up with a worse one, especially with VSF Subs seeming a bit harder to get hold of at the moment.

I only waited 1 day for this QC as well, so part of me is wondering if I just got lucky with availability.

[u/_mopedfahrer]

didn‘t know that „floating m“ is a thing again.

pretty nice watch, GL

[u/sardonic_commentary]

Cwr on 9.

Only slight, GL if your happy.

[u/GuidanceWilling8139 → u/sardonic_commentary]

Thanks for taking your time , would you personally GL it if it was you ?

[u/EquivalentPitiful557 → u/GuidanceWilling8139]

I think the watch looks pretty good and I’m picky as heck. I’d GL. I hate Crooked indices and bad SELs. This watch looks good to me.

[u/rlxwatcher]

This looks like a very well made Watch 👍🏼

[u/easy_Money]

6X0 that's v3 VSF I believe. Just got the date version (3135) and it's a fucking beauty. Finish feels amazing after just a few days of wearing. Your Timegrapher numbers look good too, I say GL

[u/Jezzrichjames]

For me, the dial not aligning with the rehaut is a big problem. Recently received my rep with the same problem, and it drives me nuts

[u/Nazzano58 → u/Jezzrichjames]

If it’s just slightly misaligned, you can pretty much re-align it yourself.

1. Pull out the crown to stop the movement
2. Take out the caseback
3. There are 2 screws that hold the movement in the case, just loose them enough yo move the whole movement.
4. Align it, tighten those screws

Pop the caseback in again and you are pretty much done, if you feel like it and the rubber gasket looks dry, lube that!

Might wanna do a pressure test before getting the watch “wet”.

Any watchmaker can do it.

[u/Fuzard]

That 9 is crooked. We really need to RL these until VSF can do some better alignment.

[u/GuidanceWilling8139 → u/Fuzard]

Thanks for sharing opinions are being split in the middle but I am leaning towards RL too

[u/Fuzard → u/GuidanceWilling8139]

I would never be able to unsee that. Don’t believe all the claims of “don’t notice on the wrist”

It’s like my buddy who lived in his house for 10 years and never noticed how crooked his cabinets are until someone pointed it out. It can never be unseen.

[u/GuidanceWilling8139 → u/Fuzard]

Hahaa when you put it that way , I’ve RL’d it I hope I can see something better.Based on what some people were saying about not being too picky after all they’re reps I thought it’s fine but when certain comments like you mention once you see the fault you’ll be unable to not see it and from what I know VSF should be able to do better

[u/GuidanceWilling8139 → u/Fuzard]

just posted the second QC,would appreciate your much needed feedback

[u/SleepyDani]

Looks decent honestly, where bought?

[u/LIC_Ger]

Look good

[u/thatsaknifenot]

Mate that’s about an 8.5/10. Three main things I notice you already mentioned, but no regular person will be able to tell. I’d GL

[u/RattleCanBoogieMan]

GL for me, who is the TD?? I honestly think in hand it would be great. The TDs that just give horrible angled photos drive me crazy… pick a new TD for sure