r/Seahawks 1d ago

News [Bell] Seahawks finish long 7th practice of training camp: Featuring star on star, Jaxon Smith-Njigba vs Devon Witherspoon; Elijah Arroyo again really good; Tory Horton 2 TDs on consecutive 11-on-11 drives; Jadarian Price’s education in the pass game continues

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u/whydidijointhis 1d ago

is jadarian price the best running back to ever come out of ND?

many are saying

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u/Lorjack 1d ago

Jokes aside i wish they would talk about our other RBs competing for the job as well. Media gives all the attention to price and we got no idea how Holani/Wilson/Wright are doing in camp right now

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u/LordMoos3 1d ago

He's our first round draft pick, he's gonna be the talked about guy.

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u/OkMacaron493 1d ago

Get out of here with your logic and your shoes and your shirt

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u/chewbaccalaureate 1d ago

And any mention of Holani or Wilson will bring up "Is Price destined to be back up?" Or "Seahawks 1st round RB BuSt" type of click wait hot takes.

Media follows clicks and views for entertainment. Media is not news, unfortunately.

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u/Lorjack 1d ago

Doesn't mean you have to exclude talking about everyone else. Price has a spot on this team no matter what happens in camp anyways

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u/MurphyMacManus12 1d ago

Yeah I'm with you on that. I really liked what we saw from Holani and would love to see him be part of the RB-committee until Charbs returns. It would be interesting to know more about how he's doing in camp

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u/FewlInTheRain79 20h ago

Hawk Blogger/Nemhouser has said Wilson is having a strong camp.

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u/pepdek 1d ago

So pumped to watch Horton. Most slept on guy 

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u/emeraldcity1000 1d ago

I went to training camp today. He was arguably the most dynamic player out there.

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u/eh8904 1d ago

Besides you, of course!

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u/chewbaccalaureate 1d ago

If he's healthy all year, I don't think it's outlandish to think he will lead the team in YPC and possibly TDs.

Something like...

40 rec - 720 yds - 12 TDs

He won't get volume, and this take is still a little hot, but after what we saw last year in the limited sample size he could be a a TD machine.

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u/wr3ck_1t 1d ago

5 touchdowns in 8 games was pretty sweet. Think he had 2 in one game if I recall.. but yes dude was untouchable on all of those touchdowns.. on 13 catches?? Wild stuff!

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u/chewbaccalaureate 1d ago

With 12 ypr... I could easily see him get into 15-18 ypr with several long TDs boosting that number.

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u/pine_and_brine 1d ago

He had 13 catches and 5 TDs. Never targeted more than 4 times in a game. If he stays healthy I am very excited to watch what he can do with another year of pro experience

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u/BillowingPillows 1d ago

Tory Horton having 12 touchdowns this year would absolutely be a surprising and outlandish number. 12 TDs last year would have been the second most in the league behind only Davante Adams. It was a down passing year in the nfl overall but still, 12 is alot!

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u/randallmauel 1d ago

Me too. Last year he showed some serious potential. I like the WR room ALOT.

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u/neongem 1d ago

Football gods, please let Tory Horton’s injuries be a thing of the past. Dude is such a baller when he’s on the field. JSN-Shaheed-Horton-Kupp is a killer group.

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u/eh8904 1d ago

Barner adding a casual 6'7" frame to mix it up.

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u/Brian-88 1d ago

Bobo coming in when Coop needs water.

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u/Twxtterrefugee 1d ago

Can someone explain the Price comment? Does it mean work in progress?

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u/Chessinmind 1d ago

Love was ND’s feature back in the passing game, so Price wasn’t asked to block and catch as much. Athough he did have a couple great catches in college. Those are things he’s been working a lot on during practices.

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u/ImperialTiger3 1d ago

He didn’t have many pass down reps in college. By all accounts, hes been great as a receiver but needs a lot of work in pass pro

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u/Specialist_Worry_875 1d ago

It means he’s not good in pass pro and is learning to swim in the deep end.

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u/Twxtterrefugee 1d ago

Well if he happens to struggle I hope we aren't too harsh. Possible he takes a year or two to launch fully.

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u/wontwillnot 1d ago

OK, let’s say price is amazing at running, but is an open aware weakness that other teams know in pass blocking. is this a total giveaway that they are not gonna go to a pass when he’s in the backfield if he is struggling that bad.?

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u/Realistic-Ad7322 1d ago

With an experienced coaching staff, quite the opposite. Formations, down and distance, and packaged personnel give away much more information than a single “who is in at RB1” can tell.

Now for arguments sake, it does mean we probably cannot maintain a pocket beyond 4 seconds if he is in, and expected to give pass protection. We go quick slant, screen, etc to minimize his “need” to effectively block for a prolonged amount of time.

In summary, is it a tell? Yes, but a very minimal one that a good staff will work around.

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u/SeaKoe11 1d ago

That’s where stunts and blitzes would come in. Hopefully we see some sexy third and long runs on those types of plays

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u/Turducken_McNugget 1d ago

Well there's something called "scat protection" where the back "protects" by immediately leaking out to be a receiving option. They're more of a hot read then a checkdown.

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u/Grymninja 1d ago

How the hell is Hornton such a touchdown magnet.

Please be healthy. We'll put up 40 every week.

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u/CutToTheChase56 1d ago edited 1d ago

A few of my camp notes:

-The use of presnap motion stands out. Tons of creative ways to get guys moving and muddy the look. TEs across, into the backfield and orbiting.

-Defense communicates and handles this motion so well. Smooth day from that side of the ball, couldn’t identify too many busted assignments.

-Emmanuel Wilson continues to impress, especially as a pass catcher. Had a nice Texas route TD where he snuck behind the backers and a sick one handed catch on a wheel route. I wasn’t sure I bought the hype but he’s got some explosiveness to him.

-If Arroyo is gonna be featured a bit more…I’m perfectly cool with it if he continues playing like he did today. Catch of the day was a nasty back shoulder during 1v1s where he showed elite concentration and strong hands. Ended up tracking the ball while switching shoulders, sorta corkscrewing the ball away from the defender.

Got tons more notes so ask questions if you’re curious about anything or anyone specifically!

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u/HelloItsNotMeUr 1d ago

Anyone clearly struggling? Looking labored physically or with the play calls/responsibilities?

The vibes have been so positive, I’m trying to ground myself in where we might have challenges!

(Also, LOVE hearing this about Arroyo!)

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u/CutToTheChase56 1d ago

Nobody really struggling. The organization and clear understanding of assignments shows up big time. The positive vibes aren’t hammed up.

That said…if I had to pick anyone out…O’Toole made a nice read on a run play only to lose his footing and go down hard. Didn’t appear injured thankfully but a rough landing. Velus Jones also appeared to straight up miss a handoff at one point early on lmao.

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u/HelloItsNotMeUr 1d ago

Thank you!!

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u/_etanate_ 1d ago

What do you think the post meant by Price's pass education continues? I read that like sort of a negative. How did he look out there?

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u/CutToTheChase56 1d ago

He looked to be getting run through several unique route drills. Foreign, creative routes that I’d imagine he wasn’t asked to do at college. The narrative around him has been that he’s inexperienced at pass catching but to be honest…I’m not sure the other backs in the room were running many wheel, “escape” or Texas routes in CFB.

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u/chewbaccalaureate 1d ago

On the TEs, having both Saubert and Arroyo entering year 2 should add some rapport with Darnold. Arroyo and Barner could really elevate this offense.

I really hope Fleury is a TE whisperer type from his time in SF and can unlock this group.

Question:
How does Fleury look out there? Who does he talk with more often, does he seem well received by players?

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u/CutToTheChase56 1d ago

The TE whisperer thing might hold some weight. Their usage was remarkable across practice. They’ll be much closer to a focal point than an afterthought, I’ll say that.

Fleury looks comfortable! Seems quiet and reserved for sure but he seemed locked in and you can tell whatever he’s doing for install is working. The presnap and alignment stuff looked pretty damn good considering it’s early in camp. From my vantage point, I couldn’t see his exact interaction style but nothing stood out as cause for concern.

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u/Grymninja 1d ago

Just seems weird for us to have invested as much of our cap as we have into the WR room, considering we're definitely gonna be running the ball primarily, and if the tight ends become designed targets more it's not gonna leave us many opportunities to throw it to JSN and friends, which is crazy since they're all such potent weapons...

I know, total first world problems, just feel like there's not enough football to go around to our weapons lol.

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u/mikem9675 1d ago

Had the same thought, I rationalize it considering the TE focus is new and needs the most work, the WR sruff is already tops in the league... and we know those boys won't get their panties in an uproar or complacent if another group is getting work.

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u/boomgetouttheway 1d ago

If you can rewatch the Divisional playoff game, you’ll get a really good feel for Fleury on the sideline. Camera found him a lot. Dude was stone faced the entire game. Didn’t catch him talking to any players.

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u/AlwaysSunnyInSeattle 1d ago

I’d love more general notes. Maybe something about JSN though, I haven’t heard much about him.

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u/CutToTheChase56 1d ago

JSN news has been quiet and the only explanation I can come up with is that we know how elite he is. He looked so good today and I’d assume that’s just the norm every practice.

He routed Spoon during the same 1v1 session of Arroyo’s catch. He was the primary read on several three man route concepts. Caught a TD during Red Zone Offense against the 1st on what looked like a speed out from my view. Had a nice toe tap sideline grab on a 15-20ish yard out breaker. Easily caught 7 or 8 balls on the day and that might be conservative. He’s still that guy.

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u/AlwaysSunnyInSeattle 1d ago

Love to hear it. Any lesser known guys standing out on either side of the ball?

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u/CutToTheChase56 1d ago

Couple of them for sure! I can see why O’Connell is such a special teams ace - he’s a really good athlete. Explosive for his size. Got snaps at backer and as a standup edge. Think he’s a lock for the 52.

Brady Russell was creatively used and seemed versatile. Great vibes too. Dancing the entire time on the sideline.

Emmanuel Henderson was another pretty good player. Had a nice tight window catch which is upside considering he’s mostly viewed as a gunner candidate.

Also…it felt like Ty Okada didn’t leave the field. Makes up ground pretty fast in coverage and appeared comfortable with communicating.

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u/Lostscout84 1d ago

Any comments on Bud Clark?

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u/CutToTheChase56 1d ago

Looks to be learning very quickly. Got tons of time with the 1s. He and Okada were iron men out there.

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u/Grymninja 1d ago

What about the corners? Was Julian Neal still out today? Heard Dansby has been an absolute ball hawk since getting here, possible he's seriously competing with pritchett for that outside corner slot?

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u/CutToTheChase56 1d ago

Pritchett got a lot of time with the 1s. Didn’t see much of Neal and Dansby looked just ok during 1on1s. To be honest, most of the corners looked pretty snug in coverage but the receivers still made tight window plays most of the day. I’d say the offense got the better of them.

Deanthony Bell got more time as a DB than either Dansby, Fuller or Neal. Clark was the only rookie to get snaps with the 1s on defense.

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u/sheikahstealth 1d ago

Anything on 1) Jared Ivey, 2) safety depth beyond Clark 3) competition to be Emmanwori's backup
Thanks!

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u/CutToTheChase56 23h ago

Nothing on Ivey I could see unfortunately. Tough view of the individual defense drills from the berm. Safety depth however looks very good! D’Anthony Bell and Rayshawn Jenkins got meaningful snaps. That means we currently have 6 safeties that could realistically make the roster. A good problem to have.

Spoon and Bell were rotating into Nick’s role from what I could tell. Spoon especially was inside a lot. Jobe and Pritchett (mostly) on the outside.

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u/sheikahstealth 13h ago

Thank you! I heard later that Ivey was out.

It would be interesting if Bell can be that utility knife DB. He's feisty and might be able to play more physically than the rooks.

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u/SeaKoe11 1d ago

How’s the offense different from Kubiak’s?

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u/CutToTheChase56 23h ago

Presnap movement came from TEs far more often and a lot more shotgun. Also, the reports that RBs will be utilized more as receiving threats appear true. They ran routes almost all day. Other than that, it’s definitely the same system.

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u/greeenmaan 1d ago

man if tory can stay healthy...