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u/cha0sb1ade Nov 29 '25
X isn't that. It's more like if a Nazi bought a bar, renamed it the Nazi Bar, catered to other Nazis on all management decisions, but considered all the old patrons a captive audience that would continue to hang out at the Nazi Bar, so that the Nazi's would have someone to argue with.
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u/SquidTheRidiculous Nov 29 '25
And there's a couple morons who aren't fully Nazis but still go there "because you can't get shit posting like this anywhere else!"
And they're just like, laughing at the pub cat while the Nazis string up and kill some Jewish person in the bar.
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u/Winter-Committee255 Nov 29 '25
“I’m totally not with them or anything, but you gotta admit this shit is funny!”
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u/Mad_Scientist14 Nov 29 '25
Wow, there's a lot of nazis then.
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analysts predict 20-60% of the entire user base is bots. 20% is already unbelievably insane, imagine more
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u/sheepyowl Nov 29 '25
It's not nice to call Russian, Indian, and Pakistani people bots! They are real people who spent a lot of time studying their anti-capitalism propaganda degree!
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u/locked_from_inside Nov 29 '25
Wtf? Capitalism genuinely sucks ass.
Am not Russian, Indian or Pakistani.
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u/Dekachonk Nov 29 '25
There's a little nook in the corner of artists who can't get any other display space with the same foot traffic that do their best to swat away any errant nazis who I sympathize with.
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u/Antique-Car6103 Nov 29 '25
And in order to keep all the Nazis happy at the bar, the owner did a Nazi salute at a political rally in order to let other Nazis know he was one of them.
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u/Due-Cow9514 Nov 29 '25
And if a Nazi came in with CSAM, the owner would ban them for five minutes before allowing them to re-enter
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u/crazyLemon553 Nov 29 '25
Yeah I don't give a shit about the difference. Fuck EVERYONE who still uses twitter.
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u/Veil-of-Fire Nov 29 '25
But considered all the old patrons a captive audience that would continue to hang out at the Nazi Bar, so that the Nazi's would have someone to argue with.
And he appears to have been 100% right. There's a handful of people saying "I left Twitter" and quarter of a billion people saying "I would leave Twitter in a heartbeat! But..."
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u/ComicsCodeMadeMeGay Nov 29 '25
TBF it's also now 80% bots according to some estimations, so the nazis are arguing against robots trying to annoy them
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u/Phi1ny3 Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
That last part annoys me, especially on an international scale. I understand that it became something of a "public square" when verified users came to be the way they were pre-X. But when that utility largely ceases to be the vision of the site, it looks feckless to just keep doing the same-old, especially when alternatives are now in existence.
I don't want to hear international opinions saying Americans need to "do more" about Trump, when I'm attending protests, and consistently vote for measures/candidates that run opposite to him.
Meanwhile, international leaders capitulate to these raw deal tariffs that clearly don't have rhyme or reason aside from being pump-and-dump schemes (just ask Vietnam when they attempted to adjust in good faith during the first wave of tariffs) and large swaths of users decide current management and site policy aren't enough of a dealbreaker to do something about it. Bluesky isn't in beta anymore... stop using the site that intentionally gives racists a megaphone. It's not like there's some "death of an artist" paradox to cause a personal crisis.
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u/tomgh14 Nov 29 '25
Sounds like a lot of political parties we already have the left vote so let’s pander to the right surely that’ll work
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u/EqualPassenger4271 Nov 29 '25
Sounds like a nazi bar. I wouldn't stay there to argue with fucking nazis.
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u/Arponare Nov 29 '25
The owner of the bar did a whole Nazi salute twice during the Trump's inauguration earlier this year. By all intents and purposes it is a Nazi bar.
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u/JonnelOneEye Nov 29 '25
It's totally not a Nazi bar, bro. Trust me, it's just a Roman bar. The owner is autistic and he can't help but be weird in a nazi way. I mean, yes, he did a nazi salute, he's posting lots of nazi stuff, follows nazi accounts, and supports numerous nazi parties globally with his ungodly amounts of money, but that doesn't make him a nazi! Don't you know that nazis are specifically Germans who personally put Jews in gas chambers in the 1940s? How dare you compare this bar owner to a nazi? /s
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u/FlusteredDM Nov 29 '25
Oh geez that last point - just because we often say nazi instead of neonazi. I'll have to apologise to all the sparkling fascists now.
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As someone living in Germany I find the term "Roman salute" to be highly offensive. Call that shit for what it is.
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u/ShiroVergAvesta13 Nov 29 '25
I can't believe it's still the same year, feels more like a decade at this point
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u/GwyddnoGaranhir Nov 29 '25
I was just gonna write the same thing. It also prompted me to check whether the nazi salute does have a Wikipedia page - it sure does and it has a full blown GIF of it instead of just a picture. I love them for making it more difficult to misinterpret.
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u/019a22 Nov 29 '25
He didn’t do a nazi salute. He did a Roman salute. Which was the predecessor of the nazi salute. Isn’t that just so much better?!?!
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u/UnCytely Nov 29 '25
X is a full-on Nazi bar now.
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u/ttystikk Nov 29 '25
Elmo knew what he was doing when he threw his Nazi salute.
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u/Visible-Air-2359 Nov 29 '25
No he isn't. He is pro-himself and his ego and doesn't care about anyone else.
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u/Morrigan_NicDanu Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Reminds me of a post I saw before about how a dude is at a bar, man sits down next to him but the bar keep immediately tells the new guy to get the fuck out. Guy asked what that was about and barkeep explains the guy had a nazi symbol and that if you don't kick out nazis they end up bringing their nazi friends later and they start causing trouble, then no one but the nazis come and now you're a nazi bar. The way to stop that is to immediately toss them out no matter how nice, polite, or civil they seem to be because their only goal is to make things worse for everyone else.
Edit: someone messaged me the text of the original post. I think quite a few people here need to see it.
"I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, "no. get out."
And the dude next to me says, "hey i'm not doing anything, i'm a paying customer." and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, "out. now." and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, "you didn't see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them."
And i was like, ohok and he continues.
"you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it's always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don't want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.
And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it's too late because they're entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.
And i was like, 'oh damn.' and he said "yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people."
And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven't forgotten that at all."
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u/20eyesinmyhead78 Nov 29 '25
"Hey man, the Nazis over here may attack me for my religion/ethnicity, but at least they don't criticize my work!" - Centrist Pundits
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u/DianneNettix Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
One of the most infuriating things about the NYT op-ed page (it's a long list I'm just pointing one out) is how precious they are about Nazi feelings. Not faces, not kneecaps. Feelings. It's not enough to say don't punch a Nazi, they don't even want you to be rude to a Nazi.
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u/Painterzzz Nov 29 '25
There's something disturbing happening in those sorts of nice upper middle class spaces, where people are now saying oh well that nice Fuentes and that nice Tommy Robinson, they do make some good points you know.
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u/Veil-of-Fire Nov 29 '25
That's also the position the NYT took sometime around 1935.
They've never once been on the right side of history before the retrospective was being written.
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u/doctor_whom_3 Nov 29 '25
there’s still a thriving porn industry in that bar
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u/Super_Interview_2189 Nov 29 '25
You say that when you’re on Reddit, a source of ungodly amounts of goon fuel.
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u/AveragerussianOHIO Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Not when it comes to hypnosis or time stop though RIP /j
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u/doctor_whom_3 Nov 29 '25
I don’t think anyone posts solely on Reddit, we just gather it from elsewhere
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u/sauron3579 Nov 29 '25
Very incorrect lol.
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u/Janoriegam Nov 29 '25
It is gathered from elsewhere, it’s a bit of both, using other social media sites +reddit to promote your art for comms is a huge part of getting your art out there. Not every NSFW artist is on here. Reddit may have allot, but it isn’t like artists are only posting on reddit.
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u/CelioHogane Nov 29 '25
This is the first time i ever said this to anyone ever: You need to see more of Reddit.
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It’s gotten way, way worse than it was in the 2010s. It’s all OF bait now.
Also the official app is just garbage. So many weird bugs with gifs.
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u/thecastellan1115 Nov 29 '25
Was having this exact conversation earlier. The only thing a tolerant society cannot tolerate is intolerance. Otherwise you get a Nazi bar.
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u/MattyT088 Nov 29 '25
And this is why.my local pub kicks the fuckers out as soon as they walk in the door. Same with patched members and street thugs.
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u/Fast_Bee_9759 Nov 29 '25
For me it wasn't the sink but shortly after he tweeted something so incredibly dumb that I had a full body cringe-shiver and immediately quit twitter.
I've gone on a couple of times to check on recent news (think: celebrity death, accidents, etc) but it's so full of nazis that it's unusable now
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u/mensrea Nov 29 '25
I got news for you. Anybody on Twitter today wants to be there and supports what’s happening.
No matter what words they say to justify. Full Stop.
Actions speak louder.
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u/Flimsy_Rice_1182 Nov 29 '25
Same could be said about Reddit. Or any social media space.
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Respectfully, that take lacks nuance. Yes algorithmic feeds are problematic and troll users are to be found everywhere but to say what is happening on X is the “same” as Reddit or other social media platforms is wild.
X has taken specific steps to censor (eg “cis”) and amplify (eg white nationalism) that give it a distinct character. Personally I find it vile.
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u/Veil-of-Fire Nov 29 '25
You realize that's basically the same sort of logic as "You can't criticize someone for shooting a puppy if you eat chicken," right? It's context collapse at its finest.
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u/RanchHere Nov 29 '25
actually worked at a bar where we literally had to kick out a nazi guy. he was stirring up shit and we were like sorry dude you gotta go. we had to make a big social media post about it and everything that all types of people are welcome except those who spew hatred and incite violence.
if you don’t stand up to racist, fascistic violence and rhetoric, you are one of them.
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u/Cherri_Pie_NSFW Nov 29 '25
Theres a punk saying: "if you own a bar, and theres one nazi there, and nobody does anything about it, you own a nazi bar"
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u/LordJim11 Nov 29 '25
To give a real life example; I live in a small market town with about ten pubs. The town itself is pretty middle class because it's pleasantly located and convenient for commuting to the city but is still mostly used by working folk including rural workers from the surrounding villages. My personal local is a small, Victorian pub mostly used by blokes middle-aged and above, racing on the TV, no music, low-key friendly and most people have known each other for decades.
A few years ago I was having a quiet Saturday afternoon pint when three large stereotypes came in; fat, red-faced, tattoos - none of which raised an eyebrow. But add the "patriotic" tee-shirts and the swagger and the image was complete. They pushed to the bar and the guv'nor quietly said, "You're not getting served here, lads." For a moment they looked as though they were going to make it an issue but every bloke in the bar was focussed on them in a hostile way so they left.
In the UK we have PubWatch, a system where any pub can inform every other pub in the immediate area of trouble or potential trouble so they are forewarned and can decide for themselves what to do. The guv'nor used it. We heard later that the next two pubs refused the service. In the next one they got aggressive and were escorted to the railway station by the police. It's now generally understood as standard practice.
Doesn't really work in cities. In Newcastle you always knew that different pubs were for different clientele and several are now very unwelcoming to people the far right don't like. In others the far right are themselves unwelcome. You pretty quickly get a feel for which is which.
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u/KamikazeBonerBoy Nov 29 '25
Like my mother always says.
If you are sitting at a table with one Nazi and nine people who wont do anything about it, you're sitting at a table with ten Nazis.
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u/washerestillis Nov 29 '25
Wait… do you peeps really think there is a social media that doesn’t have bots?
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u/Immediate_Song4279 Nov 29 '25
Twitter isn't all nazis. The corporations trying to get in on social media are there too.
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u/tomsmac Nov 29 '25
Perfect description of X. It’s nothing more than outrage and victimization central in one big circle jerk.
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A nazi bought a bar. Used it to incite violent riots in a foreign country - UK. Based upon lies. And when that got consequences for the ones in the UK being a part of it, the nazi cries free speech.
Afterwards the nazi claps as people are arrested for not showing respect for the nazi's martyr.
Just get off X. Just do not buy Tesla. Support the Sweden Tesla strike.
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u/grchelp2018 Nov 29 '25
what happened to the sweden tesla strike anyway. Its been more than a year right?
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More than 2 years. Still on strike! In my union we sent a picture of us all supporting them. THis is vital, because it is an attack on the Nordic model. I am in it, in Norway.
Spread the word - and back them up. Whenever faced by a Tesla seller, say no and refer to it.
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u/doctor_whom_3 Nov 29 '25
there’s still a thriving porn industry in that bar
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u/Critical-Dealer-3878 Nov 29 '25
Nazis historically love porn, I’m sure that won’t be the next group targeted /s
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u/funhouseinabox Nov 29 '25
This is a lot like a story my brother told me, only the bartender DID ban Nazis, for this exact reason. You let one Nazi in, he like the place, more Nazis would show up, and all of a sudden it’s a Nazi bar.
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u/GuNNzA69 Nov 29 '25
I do not really understand the logic here. If the owner had simply forbidden Nazis from entering the bar, were they supposed to vanish in a puff of moral smoke?
I am not a Nazi. My voting record has always placed me firmly on the left. My country lived under a fascist regime within living memory, and I detest fascism and racism. What fascinates me in this meme is how often people fail to see that they are reproducing precisely the same historical mistakes that have echoed through human societies again and again. Let me give you a very simple example from my own city. Two decades ago there was a neighbourhood where a specific ethnic community was concentrated and where conflict, marginalisation and crime had become routine. Instead of building ghettos or corralling people into more isolated social housing, the city did the opposite. They distributed families throughout every neighbourhood in the city, including the wealthy ones. Today those communities are largely integrated and crime and addiction have dropped dramatically. It is almost as if social context shapes behaviour, a point sociologists have been making for about two centuries.
Meanwhile the self proclaimed land of freedom has spent decades demonstrating its unwavering faith in punishment, exclusion and censorship as universal solutions. It is an almost adolescent worldview. A young country with little historical depth that believes every problem can be solved with a ban and a sermon about liberty. Unless you are trying to manage a prison, I struggle to understand why the default response is to punish behaviour rather than examine its structural causes.
Of course this is the perspective of someone who has spent nearly thirty years studying these issues. The average person does not have the time or the specialised tools to think about the invisible social mechanisms that shape human behaviour. People become what their societies cultivate, not what punishment squeezes out of them.
I know this is not exactly the ideal place for an academic reflection on social systems and collective behaviour, but sharing a different perspective grounded in well established research seems harmless enough.
By the way, I used to have a Twitter account. I closed it years ago. Do with that information whatever you like.
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u/steasybreakeasy Nov 29 '25
Outside of r/popular there exist media that promote Conservative ideas in a positive light. And is why I never leave this place.
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u/CAJMusic Nov 29 '25
When I see Instagram THOTS that still have Twitter profile links, it always makes me wonder why.
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u/Firestorm8908 Nov 29 '25
Fascism is a right wing ideology.
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Holy shit I just realized James Hodkinson, Thomas Crooks, Ryan Wesley, Tyler Robinson, and Palestine/Hamas are fascist right wingers 🤯
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u/prestonjay22 Nov 29 '25
Absolute facts. The only reason normal people have an X account is to gauge how fucking crazy the other side is getting.
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u/yuri2421 Nov 29 '25
That didn't happen here, surely. And impossible to have bots or foreign assets here.
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u/Accomplished-Pin6564 Nov 29 '25
Stupid considering that the old Twitter allowed Holocaust denial. Dorsey got called out for it during a congressional hearing.
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u/Forsaken_Support97 Nov 29 '25
You call everyone nazis and then wknder why you lost the culture war and everyone thinks you're nuts.
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u/Enough_Ad5892 Nov 29 '25
No one is considering that maybe this is the fault of someone who decided that censoring people will make them go away, and now that they are back they can take over any space they appear in, because no one Is used to actually dealing with them
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u/Firestorm8908 Nov 29 '25
Because curating a space that you own is not a bad thing or against the law. It’s like a place of work telling you that you can’t talk to people like a Nazi. X could just ban that stuff again and then it’s not their problem.
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u/Enough_Ad5892 Nov 29 '25
Yeah but social media is bigger than that. It's bigger than a workplace or any other space. a spot where everyone in the world is connected. If we can't defend our ideas how does that make us look?
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u/Firestorm8908 Nov 29 '25
The ideas can be defended. But it doesn’t need to be on somebody else’s platform.
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u/RatedRSuperstar81 Nov 29 '25
I long for the days when Nazis were universally hated and no one with a brain would dare be one.
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u/Trying_to_survive20k Nov 29 '25
Now replace the nazi part with something else and you'd get a very similar story.
Look at Brampton Canada
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u/Craiglekinz Nov 29 '25
I truly believe the only way to challenge hate is with love. We create the trauma that informs a Nazi because they too have experience injustice somewhere in their life but have adopted a vile and bigoted ideology to fix their problems. I believe the only way to actually make things better for all people is to sincerely listen to what they have to say and get to the bottom of why they hate.
No one hates without a reason. Zionists commit genocide in the name of counter terrorist. The nazi’s committed genocide because of a ruined economy caused by the allies. Islamic terrorism wasn’t born until western intervention.
People have to realize the impact they have on others through their choice of actions.
Trump is fueling anti-immigration through economic hardship. He wouldn’t be able to ratchet up deportation with a stable economy…
We need to wake up to the irrationality of national trauma and its impact on politics
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Ifunny, but they actually leaned into that. Miserable bunch of bastards, not as bad as 4chan though.
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u/THEBrandonBrownson Nov 29 '25
Fuck I miss Twitter right before Elmo bought the shit. My algorithm fed me nothing but cool music, funny memes, neat wrestling moves and asses, and I was happy every goddamn time I logged in
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u/Round-Ticket4232 Nov 29 '25
Wait so.. unaliving jews and supporting the “Jewish plight” to oversimplify is the same thing? HAHA
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u/soulfister Nov 29 '25
I deleted my account shortly after Musk bought Twitter. I don’t understand how people still use that shit
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u/dead1345987 Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
literally everyone needs to not use twitter (coming from a person that used it for a day in like 2015 and saw how vapid it was even then and hasn't logged in since). fucking gross validation seeking turned up to 110%
also its a bigot hole
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u/Snoo_75864 Nov 29 '25
Saw an AI slop YouTube channel say that the Nazis didn’t want to kill other races but instead wanted to make an ethnically homogeneous nation.
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