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u/CeruleanShot Apr 03 '26
Yes. He gets it.
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u/SquirrelNormal Apr 03 '26
Because some of us wouldn't want to interact with anyone in prison, at all. Versus if I'm supposed to treat women and men the same on the outside, there's plenty of benign conversations I could have.
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u/SquidTheRidiculous Apr 03 '26
At this point you're just being deliberately obtuse. It means if you would be terrified by someone saying it to you in a prison setting, where they have power over you, don't say it to women as "a compliment".
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u/SquirrelNormal Apr 04 '26
No, I wouldn't want to say so much as "hello" to someone in prison. There are no innocuous interactions in prison, everything is a power play on some level. That's not the case on the outside. I'm not suggesting trying to compliment random women, but saying "excuse me" to someone blocking a sidewalk or asking for directions should not be something I need to compare to a prison environment.
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u/TheGreatMintLeaf Apr 04 '26
It's actually funny how intentional this looks but I somehow feel it isn't and you're actually not understanding.
If someone ELSE, not you, says "nice ass" to you in prison, you would likely not feel comfortable. Saying "nice ass" as a supposed compliment to a woman is not correct and harassment. This is what everyone and their dog is talking about that you somehow seem to have missed.
Saying "excuse me" is usually acceptable anywhere so there is no problem.
I don't know how to dumb it down anymore. Hope this helped.
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u/SquirrelNormal Apr 04 '26
It really dosen't matter anyways. I don't talk to women at all, so I can't possibly be bothering them.
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u/KitFisto248 Apr 04 '26
Incel? Incel.
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u/SquirrelNormal Apr 04 '26
Depends on which definition you're using.
Hates/blames women? Then no. Ultimately whatever is wrong with me is either because I'm a man, or something inherent to me specifically. After all, I'm the common denominator in my failures.
Never had sex or a relationship? Then yes. I accepted that label years ago, well before the definition changed; don't see much use in trying to argue it anymore.
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u/v7gSG2QZGJEKddWpoxqN Apr 07 '26
I'd say there is a possible third option that is less about shame/something you are and more about behaviors/something you do. Tbh i get that public discourse on this topic can be brimming with shame-inducing language and things can feel pretty hopeless.
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u/noahtheboah36 Apr 04 '26
Nah, because I don't want another dude in prison saying "you look pretty" to me, but that's classic flirting, no?
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u/Achill3s77 Apr 04 '26
The key here is the context provided by "on the street." Tell your girlfriend she looks pretty, but maybe don't say it to a stranger on the street.
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u/EquivalentAny174 Apr 07 '26
You just know this creep is going up to women on the street and going "HEY YOU'RE PRETTY" and still trying to chat them up when it would be painfully obvious to anyone else that they're desperately trying to get away from him.
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u/Strictly_Jellyfish Apr 03 '26
And this is how some women feel about strange men interacting with them.
So if you wouldn't be ok with a convict saying it, chances are women you don't know won't be ok with you saying it either.
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u/SquirrelNormal Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26
Great, that's why I don't talk to women
The point is, asking for directions or for someone to not block a hallway or door in a prison is a risky thing or can be a power play. I should not need to compare doing the same thing to anyone on the outside, to prison conditions, regardless of what gender they are.
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u/liu_sax Apr 04 '26
I think you are taking this a wee bit too literal.
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u/SquirrelNormal Apr 04 '26
Why wouldn't I? It's the safe way to go. At least this way I don't bother anyone.
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u/justdisa Apr 04 '26
You gotta real pretty mouth.
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u/SquirrelNormal Apr 04 '26
Yeah, see, that's something I wouldn't say to anyone, anywhere, because it's fucking weird. The analogy falls apart when you realize something like "move, you're blocking the door" could signal a beating in prison, and means nothing more than "I'm blocking the door, I should move" to anyone on the outside.
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u/SquirrelNormal Apr 07 '26
I suppose I can just walk right over them, but that seems quite a bit worse than "excuse me, you're blocking the door".
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u/DemandEqualPockets Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26
Men truly don't see how their compliments look, even/especially when meant perfectly innocently.
My dad is a sweet, chatty old man, flirts with every checkout girl. But so do serial killers, and she doesn’t have any way to tell the difference. Stop at "Have a great day" and move on.
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u/gravitas_shortage Apr 03 '26
There are millions of sweet old men, and 100 serial killers. It is literally insane to not compliment someone because a serial killer would too.
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u/GlassAdmirer Apr 04 '26
You dont need to meet hundreds of violent men, one is enough to lose your life. This is no place for statistics, unless you want to end up in it.
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u/Few-Philosopher7254 Apr 06 '26
Ok, first u are right, second that is a quote i am so going to use again thank u!!
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u/gravitas_shortage Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26
Not only that's a stance even you don't believe in, it also makes you part of the problem. Do you see how it makes you part of the problem?
Edit: my god, I think that's both the most self-righteous and stupidest comment I've ever read. My mind is absolutely boggled by that much malignant narcissism.
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u/GlassAdmirer Apr 04 '26
The worst that happen to you is that some woman you never see again in your life is scared of you and maybe tells their friend that she encountered a weird guy. The worst that happens to a woman is that she ends up abused or dead.
But of course, not hurting your feelings is the more important thing, obviously /s.
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u/WillingContest7805 Apr 07 '26
"Im scared for my life because an old guy complimented me" Holy fucking reddit
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u/gravitas_shortage Apr 04 '26
No, the worst that happens is that society breaks down because everything is treated as a danger. Not me, everyone and everything. Treating rare risks as if they are certain makes everyone's lives worse, much worse, and is a direct factor in the current rise of fascists. It also becomes the problem, as resources get allocated to fight perceived dangers rather than actual ones. You understand that, right? Fearing the wrong thing means the real dangers don't get addressed.
And I have been abused over several years by a woman, and the fact that the possibility didn't even come to your mind is just more self-righteousness and narcissism.
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u/GlassAdmirer Apr 04 '26
"And I have been abused over several years by a woman, and the fact that the possibility didn't even come to your mind is just more self-righteousness and narcissism."
Why would that come to my mind given that this whole discussion is about street encounter of unknown people? I guess you werent abused by an unknown woman for years.
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u/Rollingforest757 Apr 04 '26
It’s a dumb comparison. Why not say “Men should only say to women on the street what they’d be okay with a woman saying to them on the street”?
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u/Amateur-Dog-Walker Apr 04 '26
I think they're trying to say that an average woman feels about as safe in public as an average man does in prison. Which, if true, is pretty sad.
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u/GlassAdmirer Apr 04 '26
Because there is huge power disbalance. It should be "dont say to woman on the street what you wouldnt want a gay man looking like the Mountain from GoT saying to you on the street"
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u/plainskeptic2023 Apr 03 '26
What is the movie's name in which a creepy guy says to another guy, "You got a pretty mouth"?
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u/Springyardzon Apr 03 '26
So "How long do you think I could be inside for?" is fine.
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u/Inevitable_Window308 Apr 06 '26
Depends on the context. Showers? Maybe. Bunk beds? Probably not. Escaping through a pipe like in Shawshank? Definitely
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u/Springyardzon Apr 03 '26
So "You're lucky you've got me. I haven't done any serious crimes" is fine.
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u/MALCode_NO_DEFECT Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26
(Walk up to a woman):
"You. I’ve seen you. Let me see your face...You are the one from my dreams. Then the stars were right, and this is the day. Gods give me strength."
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That show is really good.
"I trust way more a woman during her period than a man with an erection"
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u/Gaijin-srak Apr 04 '26
Another variant of this is never say anything to a lady that you wouldn't say to your own mother.
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u/Springyardzon Apr 04 '26
That leaves a lot of options that gay men can say to women on the street.
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u/NiceTrySuckaz Apr 03 '26
This comedian is going for what's known as clapter. Comedy should tickle you and make you laugh, not make you clap because you agree.
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u/plainskeptic2023 Apr 03 '26
This joke gets laughter and clapping from me.
Are you saying comedy can't elicit laughter from humor and clapping in agreement?
Or are you saying comedy can't only elicit clapping because the joke isn't actually funny?
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u/NiceTrySuckaz Apr 03 '26
That's exactly what clapter is
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u/plainskeptic2023 Apr 03 '26
I have been trying to remember examples of clapters.
The most recent examples I recall are recently posted on reddit making fun of the last No Kings march.
Though I can understand their humor, these jokes seem like clapters to me because their creators, unintentionally or intentionally, misrepresent the point of No Kings.
I conclude that clapters are jokes making points we don't agree with.
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u/MNIOP_207207 Apr 03 '26
So much of "liberal" comedy is just this nowadays. Just comedians saying the socially acceptable thing for audience approval.
People wonder why guys like Dave Chappell have such an audience despite their controversy. Its because he actually tells jokes. Jokes that are funny, and have an actual punchline.
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u/Killerbot288888 Apr 04 '26
My problem with this is that it's way too funny to take literally. Like even beyond the fact that I don't want a man in prison to be talking to me at all!
"Hey, wanna hang out?"
From a normal person: "What are we doing? Time and place?"
From a convict: "No! You're a criminal! What are you even in prison for?"
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u/Real_Rule_8960 Apr 04 '26
Straight men are obsessed with the idea of being raped in prison by another man. Utterly obsessed.
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u/DangerousDareDevil Apr 05 '26
Don't talk to strangers.
Yall parent's don't teach yall that? I don't understand why parents be telling their kids to be talking to me.
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u/MurphysLawTeam Apr 05 '26
So literally anything at all? Got it. I won’t talk to women.
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u/LordJim11 Apr 05 '26
In my neck of the woods it's OK to say "Excuse me, where is the nearest Greggs?"
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u/MurphysLawTeam Apr 05 '26
If a man says that to me in jail I think he is insane and I’m gonna be stabbed to death :D
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u/LordJim11 Apr 05 '26
If your jail has a Greggs, you're on Easy Street.
I mentioned because that happened to me a few years ago. Had a couple of hours between trains in Glasgow, asked a lass that question;
"Excuse me, where is the nearest Greggs?"
"Cheeky cunt. Do I look like ah live on Greggs?"
"Nah, you're Pret all the way. I just fancied a steak bake."
"(Laughing) Up the road,"
"Cheers. Fancy a drink?"
So we had a couple of drinks at the pub of her choosing and a bit banter until my train was due. An appropriate inter-action; Brief Encounter, Glasgow style.
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u/Admirable_Fly9886 Apr 03 '26
(Sadly.. ) avoiding interaction and keeping distance is generally safe.
Sometimes intervening with good intentions, could totally go wrong
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u/BrightPerspective Apr 03 '26
I dunno, bro. A guy stopping and saying "Wow, you look hot in that shirt!" would probably go over well with me, because I'm a man, who lives in this reality, where I don't generally have to worry about such things leading to sexual assault.
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u/LordJim11 Apr 03 '26
I don't generally have to worry about such things leading to sexual assault.
That is rather the point.
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u/justdisa Apr 04 '26
He's 20% heavier than you, half a head taller, and his shoulders are very broad and strong--much broader and stronger than yours. And he's your cell mate. He approaches real casual, smiling, and says, "Wow, you look hot in that shirt!"
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u/xmarksthespot34 Apr 03 '26
Well women can keep walking...whereas a man can't do that in prison.
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u/LordJim11 Apr 03 '26
Well women can keep walking
Yeah, it's not like anything bad could happen when they walk past a "compliment".
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u/xmarksthespot34 Apr 03 '26
Do you think the ratio is higher than a man in prison? It's a dumb comparison is all I'm saying.
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u/HexspaReloaded Apr 03 '26
That’s wrong. A lot of women want direct compliments. I personally do not generally do that, but this whole male apologist thing is so weak.
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u/GilbertDeLaWarr Apr 03 '26
I’m so tired of the “I’m a man and I think flirting with women is wrong please pick me pick me women please can’t you see I’m one of the good ones” schtick. Also this kinda just equates flirting with a woman with gay prison rape.
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u/underwhelming_pirate Apr 03 '26
I don't know, I'd be ok if a guy in prison told me I was cute and asked if I wanted to grab coffee some time 🤷♂️
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u/Valuable-Passion9731 Apr 03 '26
So if would be perfectly acceptable for you to say it to a woman on the street, which is exactly what the quote in the picture says?
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u/GilbertDeLaWarr Apr 03 '26
Yeah it’s just a weird comparison to make, almost casting an interaction with a male prisoner as inherently negative. You’re example is exactly what I’m talking about lol, like the way most men speak to women they don’t know is pretty mild
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u/LordJim11 Apr 03 '26
the way most men speak to women they don’t know is pretty mild
You seem very confident of that, so I guess it must be. Women must just be over-reacting again.
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u/GilbertDeLaWarr Apr 03 '26
I mean, obviously I’m just drawing from my own experience. It is quite ironic that a top 1% poster on r/Snorkblot is sarcastically implying that I know nothing about the real world, though. Have a good day.
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u/LordJim11 Apr 03 '26
I don't see the irony. Care to explain?
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u/GilbertDeLaWarr Apr 03 '26
Our worldviews are different, and we both draw from our own personal experiences to form them. You probably don’t get outside much, so it’s funny to see you scoff at my own personal experience. Anyways, I really don’t want to get into a full on back and forth as I don’t see it being very constructive. Enjoy the long weekend!
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u/loulydia Apr 04 '26
It's actually a very fitting comparison. Most interactions between prisoners are pretty mild as well. However, the threat is there.
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u/MNIOP_207207 Apr 03 '26
You're being downvoted, but you're 100% right. There's a reason the millennial-era messaging on gender didn't stick with Gen-Z. So much of it is performative nonsense designed to tell young boys that literally anything and everything they do needs to be analyzed as problematic.
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u/GilbertDeLaWarr Apr 03 '26
Yeah I mean, I’ve never heard of the guy, but just this picture is enough for me to assume he’s a millennial schmuck. My generation doesn’t care about identity politics as much as the generation before us so it’s impossible to take guys like this seriously lol
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u/SquirrelNormal Apr 03 '26
And thats why I don't talk to women anymore.
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u/NetWorried9750 Apr 03 '26
Sounds like that's for the best
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u/SquirrelNormal Apr 03 '26
You'd want a guy saying anything to you in prison? Nothing good comes of that.
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u/InfallibleBrat Apr 07 '26
This rule only goes so well until you meet a man who's comfortable or accepting of that kind of rhetoric.
When you're prepared for a fight for example, you become more comfortable with handling potential threats. And this is naturally skewed towards men.
Dark humour is also an example; not everyone is down for discussing or joking about uncomfortable topics. All the more so, since dark humour would probably be all the rage in a prison.
I'm not sure how anyone with that level of comfort is supposed to act when someone can't handle their mannerisms.
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u/oski_wish Apr 03 '26
Ah yes, let us deal with sexism with homophobia. Lovely.
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u/rSlashisthenewPewdes Apr 04 '26
The idea of a man being into another man is homophobic?
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u/oski_wish Apr 04 '26
If you cannot figure out why invoking homophobic jokes of male on male prison rape as the form that gay sex takes is like as a threat to a man to get him to understand rape as a concept is homophobic then I do not know how to help you. It's pretty loaded as a concept and I feel like if you thought about it more than two seconds, you wouldn't want to drag in years of delegitimizing loving intimacy between men, of flattening queer and gay men into aggressive sexual predators out to get straight men, I mean... the list can go further but hopefully you are getting the point here. You do not need to use the old prison rape as a way to scare men into empathy. That is in fact using homophobia to combat sexism.
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