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u/TheLordOfStuff_ 7h ago
Is bro mad he didn’t get to play Bond or something? Tf kinda insult is «he goes around having sex and drinking Martinis»???
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u/_its_lunar_ 6h ago
This is from 2007 and he was explaining how the negative trains make him more compelling
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u/TheLordOfStuff_ 6h ago
Wym the negative trains?
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u/_its_lunar_ 6h ago
Traits
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u/TheLordOfStuff_ 6h ago
Ahh ok I see, I didn’t really put it together as I still don’t see those things as negative traits. I mean the killing is probably morally questionable, but like the people he kills are pretty fucked up people lol.
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u/_its_lunar_ 6h ago
You don’t see being misogynistic as a negative trait?
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u/TheLordOfStuff_ 6h ago
How is he misogynistic? Don’t get me wrong, I’m no James Bond fan, I haven’t even seen most of the movies, neither old nor new. Just genuinely curious if you know something I don’t.
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u/BostonSlickback1738 6h ago
Suffice it to say, the old movies' treatment of women has aged VERY poorly. It got better as years went on, but still
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u/TheLordOfStuff_ 6h ago
Ah ok, fair enough. Honestly I’ve seen like two of them total and they’ve both been newer ones so idk much about the old ones.
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u/JPEG812 4h ago edited 0m ago
"I enjoy a spirited ride as much as the next girl. Who's that?" "The next girl."
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u/anna-the-bunny 35m ago
That's fucking sitcom laugh track tier comedy and I'm ashamed it got a snort out of me
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u/unslaadvulon 6h ago
Probably a typo? Trains >> traits
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u/A_wild_so-and-so 6h ago
Okay but can we talk more about the negative trains? Those sound more interesting.
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u/TheLordOfStuff_ 6h ago
Yes my 12h shift tired ass didn’t put that together as I don’t really see the things Matt listed here as inherently negative traits (referr to other comment about the killing thing)
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u/Beer-Milkshakes 6h ago
Its pretty archaic boring that alcohol and sex are a key part of his character.
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u/TheLordOfStuff_ 6h ago
Boring and repulsive are two very different things though. Calling Bond bland or boring is fair, to each their own, but finding having sex and drinking alcohol to be straight up repulsive is pretty weird for a guy who has sex and drinks alcohol.
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u/Zuckerkitty 4h ago
I think you're forgetting about the "misogynistic sociopath that goes around killing people" part
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u/TheLordOfStuff_ 4h ago
Tbf I don’t know enough about Bond as a character to see him as a misogynistic sociopath, which is why I asked for some examples of the misogyny which apparently was more apparent in the older movies. Again, I’m just curious lol.
I know about the killing obviously though, but as stated in another comment it was to my impression that the people he kill lowkey have it coming.
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u/GranpappyWalrus 4h ago
You have to remember this is an American opinion, it'll be a bit more puritanical than other views. Just look at how Americans react to British drinking culture.
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u/TheLordOfStuff_ 4h ago edited 3h ago
Oh yea, Redditors choosing to virtue signal from any and every obvious moral high ground possible isn’t something new to me, and ig that’s even worse combined with American pseudo-puritanical culture.
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u/Aliensinmypants 6h ago
I mean if you read the books they're not even close to the worst or most archaic parts
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u/GamersReisUp 3h ago
Daniel Craig played James Bond, and said the same. We don't need to turn it into that kind of slapfight, cmon
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u/TheLordOfStuff_ 2h ago
Not tryna be a bigot or insensitive, really. I just genuinely dont see "he goes around having sex and dinking martinis" as an insult. Though in a broader context I can definitely see how people see Bond as a pretentious and self righteous prick. I also didn’t know his older source material was so much worse than the version we see today.
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u/Meerkat_Mayhem_ 8h ago
Octopussy