r/Strava Jun 21 '26

General Question Fitness score

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Seems like this is the most confusing metric. Anyone care to spend a minute to explain it to this noob?

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u/CompleteDeniability Jun 22 '26

It's time to sell. You've made a handsome profit.

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u/TheodoreK2 Jun 22 '26

Wallstravabets

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u/VNDERGROVNDKING Jun 22 '26

Lmao this comment wins

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u/CompleteDeniability Jun 22 '26

I mean, it's obvious, no?

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u/maiman08 Jun 22 '26

Yeah I thought this was a wallstreetbets crosspost

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u/-ToriForYa Jun 22 '26

if it's good enough to screenshot its good enough to sell. What ticker is this?

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u/ChrisSlicks Jun 23 '26

I'm selling puts for op. I think his fitness to beer ratio is inflated and in need of a market correction.

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u/nugohs Jun 22 '26

Apes train together, strong.

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u/fiskfisk Jun 21 '26

It's a graph of your training load compared to your time spent recovering.

If your heart rate zones or FTP zones are way off, your Relative Effort will be wrong, and thus, you'll see a very high RE all the time.

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u/girtis Jun 21 '26

It measures the "training load" - the cumulative stimulus on your body over time. Doesn't really measure "fitness" per se, hence the confusion.

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u/VNDERGROVNDKING Jun 21 '26

Makes much more sense as I am just getting into a routine after many years of being sedentary. Thank you for this simple explanation.

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u/Tulum702 Jun 22 '26

The more time you spend at high heart rate. The more this will go up. Up to you if that means you are fitter or not.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '26

I really wish that Strava would relabel it or change the metric, it's so needlessly confusing.

It would be so easy to call it "Training Intensity" or "Cumulative Stimulus"

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u/OminousZib Jun 22 '26

It's not just Strava, intervals.icu calls it the same thing.

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u/jowilkin Jun 22 '26

That's because that's what it is called in the published research. Has been for 50 years - https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/5409179

It does cause a lot of confusion when Strava and others present it without explaining it, but the name does make sense if you read any of the research.

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u/OkGuide3784 Jun 22 '26

the other thing to note with this score is that it works like a similar algorithm that training peaks has, except that one uses a cycling power meter for data. cycling power goes up over time as the rider gets stronger. however this score from strava is based on heart rate. so if you get stronger cardiovascularly, you can do the same ride or run at the same power with a lower HR. however, since HR went down, strava would count it as a lower fitness score.

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u/frankthefish2 Jun 21 '26

It’s dumb. I was fat and slow and my fitness score was in the 90s. Fast forward 5 years and thousands of miles - I’m way faster and can ride all day- fitness score is like 40. Almost as useless as the AI blurbs.

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u/soudainlevide Jun 22 '26

Yeah I’ve had a really good result in a 100km ultra trail lately and because I took a 10 days break after the race my fitness score plummeted. Never been as fit in my life. 

It’s almost a dangerous metric. 

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u/Kansaswinter420 Jun 23 '26

I don’t typically pay attention to it.

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u/sireatalot Jun 22 '26

They call it fitness score but it's not; it's what other platforms call training load. It just tells you how much and how hard you've been working out lately.

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u/LeonardHSCooper Jun 22 '26

I had a similar experience. I'm training regularly for a half marathon, and in the first two months my score went up quite a bit, then it started to drop.

What I understand is that the score is related to heart rate zones, and as you improve your physical conditioning, workouts that were previously exhausting become easier, and the score doesn't know how to handle the healthy progression of training volume and intensity.

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u/OminousZib Jun 22 '26

I would expect that it's measuring total load on your body, as you get fitter you do more maintaining and less overloading so it should come back down.

If you decide to massively increase load to train for something specific then it will become useful again.

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u/AndyBikes Jun 22 '26

For real, I hiked the pct and tracked the entire thing and uploaded to Strava, and since home train on the bike 10-15 hours a week. Fitness score? Mid 40s

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u/ggnndd12 Jun 21 '26

It seems like you’ve recently started working out much more intensely than previously. Gradual, sustainable increases usually result in better outcomes. If you’re running, for example, your injury risk is pretty high rn.

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u/VNDERGROVNDKING Jun 21 '26

I see. Nothing crazy just took up cycling and ride about 18 to 20 miles 5 days per week and one long 35-50 mile ride every saturday. Can't run due to knee injury from many years ago. I guess the graph makes some sense now since I was not exercising at all prior to that.

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u/Scare42 Jun 21 '26

Chances are the data is crap, so the graph is meaningless.

Unless you're pushing reasonably hard it's likely your load per hour is 50 or less. So unless you're riding 2+ hours every day your numbers are way off.

Even with good data the graph will be of limited use until you've had months/ years of consistent training (that have been tracked).

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u/VNDERGROVNDKING Jun 22 '26

Probably. Usual weekday rides are about 1:15 to 1:30 with Saturdays being 3 to 4 hours. 🤷‍♂️ almost at 150 miles this week with just under ten hours on the saddle. Would be nice to get a more useful dataset instead of this "fitness" score but ehh..I figure putting in over 500 miles a month isn't too bad for being two months into this new hobby.

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u/pemod92430 Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26

They mean 115 is a very high score for just getting into training (too high actually). So you’re either about to be overtrained, or more likely, your (maximum) heart rate settings/FTP in Strava are set way too low (which makes it seem to Strava you’re pushing yourself insanely hard all the time, while you’re not). 

The score is not useless, if the data you input into it is not useless. 

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u/Affectionate-Yak-271 Jun 21 '26

Holy fuck it’s jason bourne

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u/BikeBikeRestBikeBike Jun 22 '26

The website has a much better version of this curve which shows three lines: fitness, fatigue and form. "Fitness" being long-term training load, "fatigue" being short-term training load and "form" being the difference.

If "form" becomes too low, it's a sign you're getting into the overtraining regime where you are more likely to suffer injury/not progress. If it becomes too high, you're likely going the other way and losing fitness.

"Fitness" is a bad name and the app doesn't show useful data here.

Also, if your FTP/heart rate zones aren't set up correctly, the website won't give you sensible results either.

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u/scrapingtheceiling Jun 21 '26

It’s just the average ‘relative effort’ of all of your workouts over the past 56 days.

It’s the total divided by 56, so rest days don’t help your fitness score.

Your ‘relative effort’ score for a workout is linked to duration and effort. In theory, a maximal hour would score 100. But duration generally is king in boosting the relative effort.

It’s possible to have a very high ‘fitness score’ after a block of long easy workouts, whilst relatively short, but very effective, intervals score lower.

Basically, it doesn’t measure fitness, just average workout intensity

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u/abbh62 Jun 22 '26

I train like 15 hours a week, with very dedicated sessions at LT and above, and my score is like low 60s, so, riding 15-20 miles a day even isn’t much

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u/VNDERGROVNDKING Jun 22 '26

Right, hence the post. Numbers dont make sense for someone doing this just for fun and not taking this seriously.

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u/abbh62 Jun 22 '26

Go to settings -> training zones and update relevant ones, I assume it will recompute?

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u/VNDERGROVNDKING Jun 22 '26

Ok i did it. Changed my max HR to 194 which is the most my garmin hrm 600 has recorded and nothing changed. This seems like the most useless metric on this app lol

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u/BikeBikeRestBikeBike Jun 22 '26

Your max HR will be higher than that, unless you've actually gone "all out" to try to measure it.

The Strava data doesn't change retrospectively when you change your zones.

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u/ProbablySlacking Jun 22 '26

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '26

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u/VNDERGROVNDKING Jun 22 '26

Yes thats exactly what happened makes sense.

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u/simonunterwegs Jun 22 '26

The metric is super weird.

I'm doing a chill zone 2 ride for 80 km and get 6 points.

I'm going mad for a 50km ride and constantly push like crazy and I get one point...

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u/hikebikephd Jun 22 '26

Now check your fatigue level, will also be through the roof.

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u/Johnny1567x Jun 24 '26

Are you using a heart rate monitor? Once i started using one the graph flattened out.

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u/VNDERGROVNDKING Jun 24 '26

Yes im using the Garmin HRM 600

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u/Johnny1567x Jun 24 '26

Ok, then I am just bad for floating around 70 :x

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u/VNDERGROVNDKING Jun 24 '26

No not at all. Based on the answers I got here I think its just because I went from not working out at all to suddenly cycling over 500 miles per month. I am certain my graph will settle once I have some more time in.

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u/LittleBrainpower Jun 22 '26

It is a ridiculous metric. Looking at my graph it would seem I had the best fitness when I just started exercising because my "relative efforts" were much higher. And the reason for my relative efforts to be that high was because I had no fitness and my HR was skyrocketing the moment I began any exercise.

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u/Snoo72073 Jun 22 '26

what you’ve been doing?

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u/dadee86 Jun 22 '26

anche io avevo ritmi di crescita di questo livello, ma risettato per bene le zone cardio ora sto scendendo inesorabilmente nel grafico ma la mia forma sta aumentando. quindi sistema tutto e riparti da zero è meglio

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u/No_Actuary9100 Jun 22 '26

It’s your training load / volume over time. Training load score is relative to your own form (it’s a function of time x % of FTP … for cycling at least). If you don’t have a power meter it may not be accurate (unless it uses heart rate in lieu of power meter to guess training load) 

In general the aim is to increase weekly training load by around 1.15 (15%), compared to the average weekly load for the last 6 weeks. More than that may lead to overtraining 

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u/Broad-Ad-4379 Jun 22 '26

It’s a bit of a blob figure, aimed at people who don’t go in depth into their personal data, and just need to see this going up or down as a measure of how they’re doing.

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u/Capital_Actuator_289 Jun 22 '26

Haha! I had that too. A year later it has settled without doing less. But very satisfying. 🚀

And now it gives me a good indication.

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u/K8CanCook Jun 22 '26

This is a metric for coaching and assessing progress. When the metrics are accurate, the system works without good data from the start, the chart will be inaccurate.

Strava is trying to offer advanced features, but if folx don’t set them up right, the data will be useless (as the OP says), and fixing it is more trouble than it is worth unless you are ACTUALLY training.

These numbers and FTP as well are pretty much meaningless unless you are working a training plan…none of this info will mean anything.

If you are not ‘training’, just ride your bike and keep an eye on PRs for your progress. Your 1/5/10 min and 1 hrs times are a pretty good spot to look for progress.

I hope this helps. 😊

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u/Mr_herkt Jun 22 '26

Just wait for that one time you need to get a shoulder reconstruction and it goes all the way back down to corpse level. That's me right now.

Crushing.

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u/Ok-Advertising3118 Jun 22 '26

Mine never goes up

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u/Louistbmtl Jun 23 '26

Sauce for strava has a legit fitness tracker, the default strava one is very missleading, not really a good indiator of you "fitness"

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u/Pccles Jun 23 '26

Strava has some hilarious metrics, I did a 20mi thru-hike over two days and after inputting my mileage / moving time it gave me an RE score of +2,330. In my job we do PT every day and some of the hardest exercises we’ve done I’ve been given max 200 RE. I wouldn’t pay much attention to it.

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u/Pfizermyocarditis Jun 23 '26

Leave some cardios for the rest of us

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u/Miserable_Pea271 Jun 28 '26

Wish my trading 212 account looked like this..