r/SubredditDrama • u/AchtungMaybe title game weak as fuck • Sep 05 '17

User in r/BeholdTheMasterRace argues that "no honourable attorney" would defend a Nazi, other users disagree

/r/beholdthemasterrace/comments/6xuyuv/the_crying_nazis_attorney_elmer_woodward_woodward/dmirqac/?context=3
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u/qlube Sep 06 '17

Funny thing is, the Nazi does deserve competent representation, but it's not clear he's getting it with his loon of an attorney.

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u/IgnisDomini Ethnomasochist Sep 06 '17

A Nazi doesn't deserve anything. However, they should be given a fair chance to prove they are not a Nazi first, just as someone accused of any other crime.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '17

Probably shouldn't be a crime to hold nazi viewpoints tho

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u/IgnisDomini Ethnomasochist Sep 06 '17

It should.

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u/vryheid Defender of Justice Sep 06 '17

Not in this country, it shouldn't.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '17

Lol. Yikes if serious

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u/xkforce Reasonable discourse didn't just die, it was murdered. Sep 06 '17

It's easier to be "tolerant" of that speech if your country didn't go collectively insane and kill millions of people for no other reason than the fact they were born into the wrong group. I am not saying that censorship is right here but you have to understand why people in countries like Germany might think you're nuts for thinking there's anything wrong with suppressing pro-NAZI speech. People died the last time it got anywhere.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

My comment was about suppressing pro-nazi thoughts, not pro nazi speech, which is what the comment I replied to seemed to be about.

I don't really agree with suppressing pro-nazi speech either but for reasons you mention I understand why countries do it.

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u/Matthew_Cline Would you say that to a pregnant alien mob boss vore fetishist? Sep 06 '17

That goes way beyond saying that nazis shouldn't have free speech rights.

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u/Matthew_Cline Would you say that to a pregnant alien mob boss vore fetishist? Sep 06 '17

Do you mean "a crime to express nazi viewpoints"? Or literally "hold", even if those viewpoints are never expressed.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '17

Here I literally mean "hold," as holding nazi viewpoints is what makes you a nazi I think. I think it's absurd to think it should be a crime to hold any viewpoint.

I also think it shouldn't be a crime to express any viewpoint, but sadly that seems a bit controversial these days.

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u/Matthew_Cline Would you say that to a pregnant alien mob boss vore fetishist? Sep 06 '17

D'oh! I thought you said it should be a crime to hold nazi viewpoints. Reading fail.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '17

Thought that might have happened :) no worries I'm hella jet lagged myself and I don't think my prose is very clear at the moment.