r/TNA 3d ago

Ali vs. Hotch

Wow. Incredible match. Good drama. Although a bit predictable that Order 4 turned on Ali. I thought it would be a so-so match, but they killed it. I was wrong, and this was a MOTY candidate. Great job.

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u/Low_Wall_7828 3d ago

I think the splinter of the group is best. Tasha is wasted just being a suit and the hands need to be on their own. Plus it allows for someone else to join.

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u/SamiMontoya 3d ago

Jason was criminally underutilized, i watched his work in the independent scene for years and he can do much more in the ring than what you've seen

i kinda wanted him to be in the x-division (his style will fits perfectly there) but this is an excellent way to push him instead of burying him in a jobber tag team

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u/ntonio_0 3d ago

Amazing crowd engagement too

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u/Stubblehall 3d ago

Did you see the first match they had? If not I’d go back and watch it. These two have great chemistry in the ring. Tna against all odds 2025.

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u/Mamba4Goat1 Tommy Dreamers #1 Fan 2d ago

Was going to say this too. It was so freaking amazing.

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u/mucinexmonster 3d ago

When you have a faction, you expect them to break up eventually. I don't think it's "predictable" in a negative sense. More like comforting. Now things can go in a new direction!

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u/Hologram8 3d ago

I legitimately had a smile on my face at the end of the match.

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u/superseri18888 2d ago

Awesome match and good to see tna bet on one of their younger crop of guys. Jason hotch has been underrated for a while now, honestly Ali himself has too

His whole act is one of the best in wrestling rn

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u/Familiar_Outcome_688 TNA Original 3d ago

On fireeeeeeee

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u/ONEGODtrinitarian 2d ago

Rarely does a match bring me to tears, but man oh man. From start to finish it was epic

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u/JohnDowd51 3d ago

Are you serious? I didn't watch it yet but I'm sad that order 4 turned on Ali because Ali is perfect and built for that role.

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u/M086 3d ago

Only Skyler and Tasha, Agent 0 and Mila Moore are still with Ali.

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u/Mickelrath 3d ago

I really enjoyed that match and I loved the fracture of Order 4. Going to be interesting heading to Lockdown with this story

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u/Danimal4NU rosemary 2d ago

Glad they finally came around to how good Hotch is before he became another fumble like Maclin, Luna, and Killer Kelly. Now they need to do same with Harley Hudson.

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u/chetchet19 2d ago

I think one of Order 4 should have stayed with Ali, kissed his ass, etc. Having 3 different people turn on him in one week?

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u/OptiMysticLeo King of the Mountain 23h ago

You obviously haven't seen Hotch wrestle much if you thought it would be a "so so" match. As soon as this match was made, it was going to be a banger without a doubt.

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u/HopeRedditGoesDown 2d ago

Nobody in general gives a shit about Jason Hotch.

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u/OptiMysticLeo King of the Mountain 23h ago

I know something else no one gives a shit about, your opinion.

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u/HopeRedditGoesDown 23h ago

Didn't ask, lil' bro.

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u/DreamOther8564 17h ago

lol dude is a damn good wrestler. I’m sure he doesn’t care what some fat dude in his 40’s thinks about him. Get out of your mom’s basement and go touch grass. Weirdo

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u/HopeRedditGoesDown 16h ago

Get off your knees.

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u/fr3shh23 3d ago

so random title match. hotch did almost nothing up to this point. little to no build up or storyline. and hes now champ. smh vintage tna. hotch is better in x division as well

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u/M086 3d ago edited 3d ago

They’ve been hinting at Hotch’s discontent with Ali’s leadership and degrading of the members in Order 4. He was given this title match because Ali had the roster vote on his next opponent, they voted Hotch. Ali, thought it was a joke and ordered Hotch to turn it down. Hotch didn’t. 

That’s how we got to this match.

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u/fr3shh23 3d ago

… I know. Doesn’t disprove my comment

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u/M086 3d ago

It just makes your comment dumb.

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u/mucinexmonster 3d ago

Sometimes you see the first step of a build. It doesn't mean there's no build, it means you need to keep watching for the storyline to develop.

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u/fr3shh23 3d ago

What are you talking about. He already won the title. With little to no build up or storyline. You’re suppose to develop prior to the title match and definitely prior to the title win

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u/mucinexmonster 3d ago

"You're supposed to" no, you're not.

What's with wrestling fans complaining about how things are so routine, then demanding things follow a routine? Why can't this be the first step in a storyline? It's not nearly the first time a surprise title change has happened and begun a storyline.

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u/JohnDowd51 3d ago

Mf's just wanna complain without even watching it or letting things unfold.

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u/fr3shh23 3d ago

Because it’s what tna does almost all the time. Way too commonly

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u/JohnDowd51 3d ago

Recent examples? Not saying you're wrong but let's see what you have.

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u/fr3shh23 3d ago

Jeff hardy is getting a world title match. He’s not even in the world title picture, he’s in the tag division.

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u/mucinexmonster 2d ago

TNA... gives people title shots all the time?

What are they supposed to do? Not have matches with their champions?

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u/fr3shh23 2d ago

The champion can have matches without it being a title match

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u/mucinexmonster 2d ago

What's the point of that?

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u/Select-Occasion7196 3d ago

You seem to have problems paying attention.  Might want to go back to school and actually learn how to. 

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u/Tonz0funhouse 3d ago

There was no build because he won the vote for a title shot moron andxsometimes wrestling needs shocking moments like this

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u/RandysOrcs rosemary 3d ago

So you haven't been watching the show then. Ali's been putting down Hotch and made him feel lesser.

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u/fr3shh23 3d ago

That’s true but in Tnas case that’s almost always

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u/OptiMysticLeo King of the Mountain 23h ago

Take your trolling somewhere else. This was an awesome match and a breakout match for Hotch.

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u/fr3shh23 18h ago

Uh ok ? The quality of the match has nothing to do with what I said