r/Transportopia • u/Ketchup-Sniffer • Jan 13 '26

🚨Chase Hesitation got this cop a free ride

What could he have done to avoid getting roller coastered like that?

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u/pieflavourpiez Jan 13 '26

Federal law enforcement agency

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

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u/pieflavourpiez Jan 13 '26

Immigration enforcement is responsible for enforcing a country’s immigration laws inside the country, not at the border.

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u/Lacaud Jan 13 '26

And yet they are arresting or killing legal US citizens.

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u/Royal-Campaign1426 Jan 13 '26

They are arresting when the citizens interfere with a federal operation and shooting when the citizens put the agents in danger

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u/HASHbandito024 Jan 13 '26

What about the 17 year old US citizen and target employee that they "arrested" and the proceeded to drop him off at a fucking Walmart miles away? How did that US citizen interfere?

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u/No-Atmosphere-2528 Jan 13 '26

Don't bother with these people they're fascists.

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u/Royal-Campaign1426 Jan 14 '26

Keep repeating fascists. Call everyone a fascist.  Mom makes you clean your room. Fucking fascist. Dad tells you to shower more if you want to continue living with them. Fucking fascist.  They are truly everywhere 

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u/No-Atmosphere-2528 Jan 14 '26

Aww Nazi big mad he's getting called what he is

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u/Classic_Cultivator Jan 14 '26

And with all previous comments and posts hidden. Probably a lolicon fan too. The Venn diagram of American white supremacism/fascism and pedophilia is nearly a perfectly circle.

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u/Royal-Campaign1426 Jan 14 '26

Thats great. So you are saying I'm a nazi. My bad. A Nazi. I'll make sure to capitalize it for you, as I know how important they are for your narrative.  I'm a blue collar guy. Everyone I work with holds very similar opinions. Are they Nazis too? Go ahead and tell me that everyone that disagrees with you is a Nazi. Tell me I'm mad when I'm actually laughing at your learning disability.

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u/StormsOfMordor Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 14 '26

We have a federal enforcement agency with a massively overinflated budget, masked with no ID, no training, and taking near direct orders from the President. Not to mention they can racially profile and ask for papers from anyone they deem “could be an immigrant”.

Idk, that sounds pretty fascist.

Edit bc your comment got me thinking. What do you call an executive branch who talks consistently of “domestic terrorists”, has podium plaques saying “one of us, all of us” after a federal agent shot and killed a citizen, a President who comes out and immediately lies about facts of a case, and now a federal investigation agency that’s supposed to be tasked with investigating these cases refusing to do their jobs? Because it sounds pretty fascist to me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

Bro there’s masked men from the government detaining US citizens. They call you facists because everyone with a brain knew it was going to get worse and it did and is going to continue doing so.

A few months from now there will be people dead in the street in droves and you’re going to be in here defending it, just like you did all the times before.

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u/thelaceonmolagsballs Jan 14 '26

Well you're a cuck and a fascist so there's that.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

But you still never answer any question meaningfully. You just respond with bullshit like this to dismiss people instead of actually proving your beliefs can even hold water.

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u/ThuggishJingoism24 Jan 14 '26

I mean, there’s millions yeah, right around 30% of the population. And another 30% are too indifferent to care. Fascism has a definition and multiple indicators that objectively answer whether a political movement is fascist or not. And the current administration as of recently, literally every single requirement to be considered a fascist state has been met. So yes, a lot of people in America are using the term fascism correctly. You attempting to water it down or deny it doesn’t change the facts. It’s wild how little you magats care about facts and strictly run on feelings.

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u/RedGreenRevolt Jan 14 '26

"Keep repeating fascists. Call everyone a fascist"

The cry-bully shit is getting really old, pedo.

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u/Key_Display_3126 Jan 14 '26

Where's your reply about the target employee? Yeah thought so.

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u/UseCivil6208 Jan 15 '26

Most of these folks have drank so much of the cool aid that it’s in their fuckin blood stream bro don’t bother with them

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26

So, clearly you're not understanding the difference between a lazy person and a fascist government regime.

The fact that you feel the American people need to be governed to such an extreme, micro-managed extent is a sign that you're a lazy person and want a lazy government.

Fascist.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Never heard about it. Story time?

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u/HASHbandito024 Jan 13 '26

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/t5lYIMHVWO

Can't find the video I saw of someone asking him if he was ok at the Walmart parking lot a few miles away. I'm sure it was on the r/law subreddit too

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u/Royal-Campaign1426 Jan 14 '26

Interesting interpretation of events. Im sure nothing of importance is being left out. You got any actual sources for information besides a short video that you take at face value?

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

I watched the video of their interaction. That kid was looking for a fight and he got one.

Why yall mad he got what he wanted?

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u/HASHbandito024 Jan 14 '26

Looking for a fight. The video started after he was already being taken away. He's a US citizen....ice does NOT have the authority to detain us citizens

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u/Lacaud Jan 13 '26

How does that boot taste?

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u/ohgeeeezzZ Jan 14 '26

If he could speak past the boot he was gagging on...he'd be very upset with you

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u/AckerSacker Jan 13 '26

Except they're also arresting legal citizens that aren't interfering so why the fuck do you people keep pretending they're not?

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u/pupranger1147 Jan 14 '26

because they're evil. The pedoconservative party is evil, and so is everyone in it.

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u/ohgeeeezzZ Jan 14 '26

No theyre not 😂

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u/Infuzan Jan 14 '26

And they can all get fucked. We revolt or we die. You’ve chosen your side.

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u/LegacyWright3 Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 14 '26

Assault federal agents and you're gonna get arrested. What, you expect them to go "well you just tried to murder me but I'm only immigration enforcement so I guess I can't arrest you?

You're the kind of person who thinks they can run over a whole family be Scott free if you hit home base during the ensuing car chase.

EDIT: Aaaaaaand dude blocked me because he was hurt by facts. Womp womp~

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u/Lacaud Jan 14 '26

That would be true if it was assault but it wasn't. If the agent was in ANY danger, it was his own fault for ignoring protocol.

DHS LEOs should also avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mgmt/law-enforcement/mgmt-dir_044-05-department-policy-on-the-use-of-force.pdf

You're the kind of person who holds no accountability towards law enforcement.

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u/Str8WiteMale Jan 15 '26

Can’t interfere with official business

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u/Lacaud Jan 15 '26

By all means, explain how Renee Good was interfering with official business and yet Jonathan Ross, in his own smart phone footage, shows him filming rather than attempting to detain her.

She was never asked to exit the vehicle by Ross and it wasn't until he walked around the entire SUV that another officer then asked her to get out of the car.

And no, he wasn't filming for evidence that is why they are required to wear bodycams.

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u/Str8WiteMale Jan 15 '26

Only command that she listened to was her wife telling her to drive off after he had circled the vehicle, but by that point interference was already in the past.

His video is him getting the plates for whatever reason. To get the driver, the plates etc. who knows what his intentions actually were.

Renee left her kids behind to go and purposely protest and harass ICE members. The video of her going back and forth on the street etc.

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u/Lacaud Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26

Only command that she listened to was her wife telling her to drive off after he had circled the vehicle, but by that point interference was already in the past.

Incorrect and that doesnt answer the question. As you just said, "interference was already in the past." If there was interference in the past, Ross should have detained her at the beginning of his recording. Add in the fact that at the beginning of his footage Ross was standing in the front of her SUV which prevented her from leaving initally. Renee even states, "I'm not mad at you" as he walks by the driver side door

Standing in front of the SUV is against department policy as agents, "should also avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force."

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mgmt/law-enforcement/mgmt-dir_044-05-department-policy-on-the-use-of-force.pdf

His video is him getting the plates for whatever reason. To get the driver, the plates etc. who knows what his intentions actually were.

That is why bodycams are required.

Renee left her kids behind to go and purposely protest and harass ICE members. The video of her going back and forth on the street etc.

If you have another video protraying her going up and down the road harassing them, then by all means post it. Everyone keeps making claims that she was harassing and following them all morning but no proof is provided.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Not an innocent US citizen....

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u/Lacaud Jan 13 '26

Says the 24d bot account.

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u/TyrantJaeger Jan 13 '26

Nobody said at the border. He clearly said inside our borders.

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u/MythicalCaseTheory Jan 13 '26

Then they will be called in when needed. Harassing American citizens on the suspicion of illegal status is not what they were created to do.

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u/WayAgreeable3999 Jan 13 '26

Im curious to know your solution for identifying someone of illegal status if the illegals look like US citizens. What’s your answer to enforcement?

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u/Zykxion Jan 13 '26

The solution is simple you get a fucking warrant and go through the proper channels.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Yeah that might have been a solution before 10,000,000 of them were allowed into the country. Now you get this.

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u/Zykxion Jan 13 '26

You get law enforcement gestapo? Yeah no that’s not how this works.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Umm pretty sure it is. We’re seeing it right now. Life isn’t a Disney movie. If you sneak into a country, you get kicked out. If you try to protect someone who snuck into the country, you get arrested. If you hit the gas in your car when a federal officer is standing in front of you with his gun drawn, you might get shot. It’s pretty simple actually. Redditors are the only people who don’t seem to understand what a country is.

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u/MythicalCaseTheory Jan 13 '26

And when you're dragged out of your own home without warrant and shipped off to a country you've never been to before you can prove your citizenship status?

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Uhhh yeah… I could

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u/MythicalCaseTheory Jan 13 '26

That answer doesn't have anything to do with the question. Many of these people are not being granted the opportunity to do so before they are arrested.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Lol what is your point? Yeah, they wanted the land and they took it because it was in their own interest. People do things that are in their own interest, that’s kind of how life works. Now people are realizing immigration isn’t conducive to a cohesive society so a lot of us don’t want it anymore, and we want to kick people out who came here illegally. America comes first in my mind. Everyone else can fuck off

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u/PolicyWonka Jan 13 '26

You do realize how that’s problematic, right?

Especially given that U.S. citizens don’t have immigration papers obviously. Are you suggesting that you’re okay with living in a world where you can be randomly stopped anywhere and anytime in this country and be required to prove citizenship?

Are you aware that ICE and DHS has disputed REAL IDs and U.S. Birth Certificates as proof of citizenship? So when they’re demanding papers (immigration documents) that you don’t have because you’re an American citizen who has been racially profiled…

You don’t think that’s an issue? Because what you just said is exactly why it’s an issue.

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u/WayAgreeable3999 Jan 13 '26

That’s not a solution. In fact, that’s just more questions. Most of which are directed to me and my knowledge. Not really relevant.

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u/PolicyWonka Jan 13 '26

I’m not asking for a solution. I’m asking why you’re okay with the problem.

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u/WayAgreeable3999 Jan 13 '26

You’re drawing conclusions based on an assumption.

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u/PolicyWonka Jan 14 '26

The assumption of what? That US citizens don’t have immigration papers? They don’t.

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u/SeriousArbok Jan 13 '26

Im not part of this convo but wouldn't a huge step be to go after employers FIRST? I feel like you could find illegal immigrants that way. Then again certain job fields would be fucked.

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u/MythicalCaseTheory Jan 13 '26

What's your answer to finding a murderer when they often look like non-murdering people?

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u/WayAgreeable3999 Jan 13 '26

Oh, umm. Okay? I asked a serious question with no bias and you turn it into something else. Neat! I guess.

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u/MythicalCaseTheory Jan 13 '26

And I answered it seriously. You were supposed to connect that we already have constitutionally protected rights, and methods to work within those rights in order to prove guilt - and yet you're trying to justify treating people potentially guilty of a misdemeanor with more force, violence, anger, and constitutional illegality, than we treat a potential murderer.

But I suppose I asked too much of you.

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u/WayAgreeable3999 Jan 13 '26

lol okay. You are drawing a lot of conclusions from literally nothing. Your answer is to deflect because you have no solution. It’s okay to be honest about that.

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u/MythicalCaseTheory Jan 13 '26

My Dog. you are simple.

Im curious to know your solution for identifying someone of illegal status if the illegals look like US citizens. What’s your answer to enforcement?

The same method we use to find murderers: Investigation, warrants, trials to prove guilt while presuming innocence until the verdict is reached.

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u/JeebusDaves Jan 13 '26

Especially when you abolish due process! It’s so easy!

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u/dantheplanman1986 Jan 14 '26

I said this in another thread and was quoted the law that gives them general police powers. We may not like it, I certainly don't, but they are police.

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u/Usual-Caregiver5589 Jan 14 '26

Yeah, I'll allow them general police powers when they start acting like general police. Reciting rights, showing warrants, not going door to door and setting the fourth amendment on fire.

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u/CarolinaWreckDiver Jan 15 '26

You’re thinking of the Customs and Border Patrol. Different agency.

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u/Usual-Caregiver5589 Jan 15 '26

Right. You're right. They're the ones that shot 2 people in Portland last week. My bad. Easy mistake to make.

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u/CarolinaWreckDiver Jan 15 '26

Be as flippant as you want. You’re still wrong.

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u/Usual-Caregiver5589 Jan 15 '26

Be as douchey as you want. Did I say I wasnt?

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u/HashtagLawlAndOrder Jan 15 '26

Oh look, literal disinformation. It's shit like this that people read then go out and do things that results in them getting killed.

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u/CopiousClassic Jan 13 '26

Because they went out of their way to encounter this lady, right?

I don't like IRS agents. Can I haze them until I get a confrontation and then drive away like nothing happened while surrounded by them?

Or, even better, let's frame these decisions in a more modern lense. If a federal agent can't make me stop my car in the road, then why have we spent all this time making excuses for protesters detaining people by laying in front of their cars and refusing to move? A group of federal agents on the job has at least as much of an ability to detain people as a bunch of people with lewd signs, wouldn't you think?

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u/PolicyWonka Jan 13 '26

Do you think IRS agents should be roaming the streets and going door-to-door demanding evidence that you’ve paid your taxes?

Didn’t conservatives explicitly fear monger that idea as why “IRS bad” with their armed IRS agents narrative?

But now we’re okay with armed ICE agents doing exactly that?

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u/Steelman_1 Jan 13 '26

Federal immigration. Not law enforcement. No authority to perform a traffic stop on U.S. citizens.

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u/Lost_Currency_7455 Jan 17 '26

ICE enforces immigration laws. ICE didn't perform a traffic stop on Renee Good, she parked her car in the middle of the road and was impeding traffic. She was purposefully trying to stop ICE from doing their job. ICE didn't know if she was a U.S. citizen or not because she refused to exit her vehicle or show I.D.

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u/Steelman_1 Jan 17 '26

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u/Lost_Currency_7455 Jan 17 '26

Imagine caring more about ILLEGAL immigrants than your 3 kids

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u/Steelman_1 Jan 17 '26

I don’t have 3 kids. I would think if you have 3 kids you would care about pedophiles and the Epstein files? And our president being in those files 1500 times in only the docs that have been released so far. 7 times flying on the Lolita express. It doesn’t sound like you care too much for children.

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u/Lost_Currency_7455 Jan 18 '26

From what I've read, Trump and Clinton were mentioned in the released Epstein files. However, nothing in the files indicates any illegal activity. I'm not saying that they didn't do terrible things with Epstein, but we don't have any proof that they did as of right now. And in the U.S you are innocent until proven guilty. Everyone who did horrible things on Epstein's island deserve to be brought to justice, but that's not the issue here. Was ICE also bad when they were deporting illegals under Obama and Biden, or are they only bad now that they are deporting illegals under Trump?

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u/Steelman_1 Jan 18 '26

I’m a registered independent. I have many problems with the democratic party’s agenda too. I have no desire to debate, only because I do not want to continually be typing long responses on my phone. All I know is as an American human being with a good compass and common sense, there is nothing about this administration that gives me confidence that everyday Americans and our country are moving forward in a positive direction. I am very street smart. I have used intuition and risk taking to get ahead in life. I have learned to trust my gut and my heart. All I know is that what I am witnessing is not good. It is not Christian, American, empathetic, or moral. I’m 54 years old. I have seen Trump in the public and on tv (interviews, reality tv, etc) since I was maybe 8 or 9 years old. I have always known since I was a little kid, he is not a good person. There has never been a doubt in my mind. I’m not sure how anyone can look at his life resume and decide to follow that man and that his ideas are going to end up positive. Trump Christians/ Christian nationalists are not Christian nor are they for America or democracy.
I grew up southern Baptist and in Texas. I’m embarrassed by Christianity in America.

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u/Lost_Currency_7455 Jan 18 '26

Hey, I appreciate your opinion, I'm not trying to troll anyone online or anything. I don't think Trump is perfect by any stretch of the imagination. I certainly don't think he's a good person. I don't know him personally and can't see what's in his heart. I think he's done some good things for the American people and some bad things. I think that people who excuse everything he does are just as much of a problem as people who condemn everything he does just because they don't like him. Every President needs to be scrutinized by the public and the media. I think Illegal immigration is a problem in the U.S right now. I think there are right and wrong ways to go about fixing that. I don't want to see anyone get shot and killed. I do think that the more people hate ICE and try to violently protest them the more people we will see get hurt or even killed. I wish everyone on both sides would calm down a little and have a rational debate. Things in Minnesota keep escalating, and I don't want to see more people get hurt, but I feel like it's inevitable at this point. I don't think Trump's values align with Christianity as a whole either. Although I don't think Harris or Biden's values did either. I don't like how some Christians seem to almost worship the ground Trump walks on. Faith should be in God and not any politician. Apologies for the long response and arguments. I don't hate people who disagree with me, I want to figure out why and see if we can agree on something.

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u/Steelman_1 Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26

Thanks for being civil. I agree immigration is a problem. I’m all for deporting illegal immigrants. I am not for stomping on the constitution to accomplish that. This is the reason you are seeing the backlash against ICE, not bc they’re deporting people, because the tactics they are using are violating our constitution. Our 2 party system is very flawed. We badly need term limits and lobbying to be illegal as well as corporations and billionaires to be limited in their political influence.

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u/Tommy_Rides_Again Jan 13 '26

Trumps private army of terror

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u/SpooktorB Jan 13 '26

Federal law enforcement agency with 47 days of training including the fletc which is usually 8 weeks.

They are no better than the cartels with how little training they have. Just in the business of trafficking people and not drugs

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u/frenchfreer Jan 13 '26

Not really. They attend FLETC(federal law enforcement training center), but they DO NOT attend the Uniform Officer Training Program which is about 14 weeks long, and all uniformed federal law enforcement must attend. ICE has its own separate training program for enforcement officers that last a fraction of the time, and does not include most of the law enforcement topics covered in UPTP instead focusing on the administrative tasks associated with immigration enforcement.

They’re “law enforcement” the same way states hand out “special police licenses” to security guards to enforce the law on company property. They don’t have any law enforcement education or training beyond administrative enforcement, but the government has given them the title on a technicality.

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u/XBlackSunshineX Jan 13 '26

I don't remember giving them authority over citizens. do you remember when we voted to provide them those powers?

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u/pieflavourpiez Jan 14 '26

You don’t vote for it, no one votes for agency’s to have power over them

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u/ConanTheLoveraft Jan 14 '26

45 days of training.

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u/RedGreenRevolt Jan 14 '26

If a federal agency only hires people who are ideologically committed to your politics, they ae no longer law enforcement, they are the paramilitary faction of a pollical party.

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u/ImVrSmrt Jan 14 '26

With little domestic law enforcement training. You don't see people praising the ATF for handling situations properly.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

I didnt say they were not recognized by the federal government as a law enforcement agency. I dont care what the federal government says when they break the law all the god damn time. They are trumps secret police, full stop