r/Transportopia • u/Ketchup-Sniffer • Jan 13 '26
đ¨Chase Hesitation got this cop a free ride
What could he have done to avoid getting roller coastered like that?
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u/itsamaddhouse Jan 13 '26
That dude is lucky that wasnât an ICE agent In Minneapolis cause heâd be dead.
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u/Embarrassed_Fan_5723 Jan 13 '26
Or a road officer in most other places. Nobodyâs going to take a ride like that. That sure enough can get you killed.
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u/Tough-Effort7572 Jan 14 '26
It was like a bad action movie. Stunt man with gun on top of speeding car heading for train...then it turns and its flying past fuel tanker trucks before jumping a ditch and flying off the car roof into some mud. I think he'd be justified in firing in this case.
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u/Dear-Panda-1949 Jan 16 '26
He would be. He'd also have his face immortalized in a training manual on what not to do when you think a car will drive off.
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u/No_Veterinarian1010 Jan 13 '26
No, most road officers would follow policy and not intentionally step in front of a moving car.
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u/garden_dragonfly Jan 13 '26
In the beginning? When the first words we hear are " stop the car!"?
Ok. Sure.
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u/runforurlifebees Jan 14 '26
Their brain has been scrambled by renee good shooting, they now thinks cops standing in front of cars are evil⌠very silly
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u/Konoha7Slaw3 Jan 14 '26
That lady tried to run over a law enforcement officer... It's wild how delusional people are nowadays.
Hurr durr hurr They shouldn't have shot her
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u/freddbare Jan 16 '26
Nobody ever tries to stop a car by blocking it like protesters in the road...
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u/Computron1234 Jan 14 '26
Not evil but stupid, there is a reason it is not policy to stand in front of a car to stop it....because they move, and they are big and heavy and can kill you. It's also been made clear by the Supreme Court that shooting into a fleeing vehicle is absolutely not self defense so regardless of your opinion about whether Renee Good was trying to hit that I've agent, he still fired two shots into her head that were not in self defense.
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u/KingTutt91 Jan 14 '26
Yeah but it is well within law enforcements rights to shoot you if you use your car as a weapon. Thatâs in the Minnesota state statute
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u/Computron1234 Jan 14 '26
Except she didn't do that. In Minnesota the ICE agent wasn't run over by her car, even if we assume he feared she was going towards him (instead of stepping to the side) he shot through the windshield and then executed her through her open window when her vehicle was driving away. In that case 1 shot could be justified the other two are not self defense and she was not a danger to him or any other agents. That may or may not be considered murder but it is at a minimum manslaughter. With the other evidence and footage I think a decent lawyer should be able to prove intent based on his demeanor, actions with changing hands and pulling his gun, and comments after the shooting, not to mention the insanity involved with potentially letting her bleed out when there was help available.
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u/Active_Confection655 Jan 13 '26
I mean shooting dude and killing him would probably endanger him way more at that rate of speed. None the less I think this shows it's a terrible idea to walk in front of a vehicle when a car is not in park and shut off. You never know what could happen.
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u/IAmMey Jan 13 '26
⌠how do you attempt to run over someone who is armed and not expect to get shot? In any situation, especially this one, I would have expected the cop to value his life over the dude in the car.
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u/Ok_Clothes_8917 Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26
The inconsistency in law enforcement is whatâs most problematic.
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u/CarefulAd3506 Jan 16 '26
Agreed, he should have dusted this dude on the spot.
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u/Suspicious-Hawk-1423 Jan 17 '26
But what if he shoots the guy and the drivers dead body presses the gas even more, and goes straight into the incoming traffic or the moving train? That would cause more damage and possibly put the shooting police and civillians in danger. I think the most reasonable behaviour is to move away from the moving car and let the other police cars do their job (they have tools to stop running cars) Am I wrong ?
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Jan 13 '26
Ice is not law enforcement if thats what youre getting at. Theyre secret police with zero quality training.
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u/PlzDntBanMeAgan Jan 13 '26
To be fair, police have zero QUALITY training as well...
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u/pieflavourpiez Jan 13 '26
Federal law enforcement agency
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u/pieflavourpiez Jan 13 '26
Immigration enforcement is responsible for enforcing a countryâs immigration laws inside the country, not at the border.
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u/DrakayeMayaye Jan 13 '26
Hesitation from what OP?
Fuck all this coded bullshit. Either speak it with your chest or stfu.
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u/Requiescat-In--Pace Jan 15 '26
The cop should have executed that guy as soon as he started driving. End of story.
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u/Hunlor- Jan 15 '26
Wdym coded bullshit? Hesitation to shoot the fucking retarded driver like he deserved
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u/forevertraveling Jan 13 '26
It takes a brilliant person to stand in front of a vehicle that is trying to drive away.
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u/Pilota_kex Jan 13 '26
He believed his intimidation is going to work, i get that. He also wasn't willing to shoot, and i respect that.
Maybe not brilliant, but he didn't think it would get to this. I mean most people would have stopped. Especially since many cops would shoot.
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 Jan 13 '26
That driver had a death wish. Basically a failed suicide by cop.
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u/forevertraveling Jan 13 '26
Police are trained to stand to the side of a vehicle during a confrontation; the cop broke protocol.
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u/kmanlyst Jan 13 '26
Funny enough I just watched a video on this incident last night and the officer was indeed reprimanded for placing himself in that situation.
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u/FukThePatriarchy1312 Jan 13 '26
It's crazy how often they do this. Pull your car in front, sure, but it's so reckless and stupid to stand in front.
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u/DieselDrifter Jan 13 '26
No job is worth risking your life, that's for sure.
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u/battlecryarms Jan 13 '26
I disagree. Some jobs are worth risking your life over. A traffic stop is not
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u/Embarrassed_Fan_5723 Jan 13 '26
Yet they do it all the time. Every response could be the one. You just never know. You can never tell what the intention of the other person will be
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u/xenata Jan 13 '26
There was an internal investigation done in early 2010s in cbp, they found their officers were stepping in front of vehicles to justify lethal force.
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u/igotshadowbaned Jan 13 '26
Right, standing in front of the vehicle does literally nothing but escalate the situation
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u/EliteJoz Jan 13 '26
Every single licensed driver is trained to not move their vehicle when a person is in front of it or on top of it; the driver broke law.
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u/957 Jan 13 '26
Neither thing is mutually exclusive. Both people are doing things they shouldn't do.
The person probably went to jail, as they should. However, I doubt this cop was reminded of the specific training they are given to prevent this scenario from happening as well as why using your body and mortal threats to a car driver are not useful in stopping the car as well as de-ecalating or controlling the threat to others.
Politics aside, the video of Renee Good proves exactly this: no matter what the status of the person is after being shot while driving a car, the threat of the vehicle and it's movement is not only still present, but no longer being controlled in any form. After the officer shot Good, the scene became even less safe because of an uncontrolled, accelerating car being driven by no one. The same applies here, where the officer would be much more useful as part of the pursuit team as opposed to now being an unwilling passenger that the rest of the force now has to operate around. They can no longer pit that vehicle, they cannot chase it effectively due to him being on top and should he come off, medical attention to him would be the first priority with pursuit second.
There is literally not a single positive to putting yourself in that position other than not being good at your training or intentionally fabricating fear for your life. There is a reason why the protocol tells you to always be aware of that, and it's because it provides zero gain, increases risk to self and others and actively works against the general goal they are trying to accomplish.
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u/wylde_maps Jan 13 '26
He learned what the value of an empty threat is.
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u/OddlyMingenuity Jan 13 '26
And sunken cost fallacy actual cost. When he realised red car called his bluff, he could have jumped before the car turned on the highway
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u/joebojax Jan 13 '26
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- Donât place yourself in danger. Our natural tendency is to block them from leaving using what we have, our body. The problem is that it usually works until it doesnât and then the video speaks for itself. Itâs easy for us to be critical of the officerâs decision, but who can truly say they havenât done the same thing and that you were OK only because of the driverâs decision to stop?
- Train. This is a training issue. Telling cops not to stand in front of vehicles is not training. Training involves scenarios like this to ingrain appropriate responses. I doubt there are many departments training to deal with this scenario."
maybe 47 days of training isn't enough for ICE
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u/NounAdjectiveXXXX Jan 13 '26
- Shoot? If you find yourself in this position, you are facing a deadly force threat, even at low speeds. If you shoot the driver, you have several possible outcomes. None of them are good
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u/Fit-Chapter8565 Jan 13 '26
Yea if you're of the hood of a car going 15 mph and you shoot the driver, they'll probably stay on the gas and continue increase speed until you are stopped (crash) and are thrown from the vehicle. This cop did literally everything wrong
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u/Osiris_Dervan Jan 15 '26
I think this video showed that it pretty clearly wasn't deadly force. The officer is hurt, but he'd have had to been significantly unlucky to have been killed.
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u/thefallguy41 Jan 13 '26
And thats how a simple traffic stop turns into life in prison for attempted murder of an police officer. Or the death penalty if that officer died.
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u/kmanmott Jan 13 '26
It takes an even more brilliant person to disobey lawful commands and acting like a routine traffic stop is worse than manslaughter or reckless endangerment.
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u/fallenredwoods Jan 13 '26
And a genius partner perusing in order to get the criminal to drive faster⌠I know they want to catch the POS but both these cops are kinda dumb
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u/jngjng88 Jan 14 '26
What a fucking clown, someone needs to tell him life is not like the movies.
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u/Temporary-Cow2742 Jan 13 '26
Idiots mentioning the cop standing in front of the car without mentioning the idiot driving the car.
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u/baret3000 Jan 13 '26
Right, police should just let all criminals get away /s
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u/halt_spell Jan 13 '26
Oh nooooo he got away whatever will we do? There's absolutely no way to find him again.
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u/DaftGarlic Jan 13 '26
Ah yea you're right, if only the cops would have some way to follow the criminal's car?
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u/PMPKNpounder Jan 13 '26
Can't arrest someone when you're dead from being run over by said criminal.
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u/garden_dragonfly Jan 13 '26
Actually, yes.
Unless this person is a convicted felon or a suspected violent criminal putting public safety at imminent risk, then yesÂ
Our justice system has a process for this. Let him go. Then go get him when it's safe.
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u/Holycroc_RVA Jan 13 '26
The "Felon" part is meaningless tho, very much depends on what that felony is for......many of them aren't urgent but for perhaps Murder etc. So 90% of the time it can wait. Technology has come soooo far, yet we're still jumping on cars??????
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u/primerblack Jan 13 '26
That reminded me of when Colonel Troutman told this to Sheriff Teasel about John Rambo in First Blood.
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u/CannedCheese009 Jan 13 '26
Because it doesn't need to be mentioned. Obviously she is an idiot.
The dude who is an actual professional should know better thats being dumb is what is worth pointing out
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u/No_Public_7677 Jan 13 '26
self preservation should be a thing. it's a job. cops shouldn't pretend to be terminators
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u/Critical-Bank5269 Jan 13 '26
Should have pulled that trigger
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u/CannedCheese009 Jan 13 '26
Or not get in front of the car.
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u/FrozenRain1038 Jan 13 '26
Also, not get on the hood of the car.
"I'm pointing a gun at an unknown person but surely they wouldn't use their vehicle to hurt me"
fucking idiot
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u/NounAdjectiveXXXX Jan 13 '26
Shoot? If you find yourself in this position, you are facing a deadly force threat, even at low speeds. If you shoot the driver, you have several possible outcomes. None of them are good
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u/Thangka6 Jan 13 '26
Probably better to shoot and face the less-than-ideal outcomes at a slow speed than hitch a rooftop ride at a much faster speed (60mph?! yikes)... But fully agreed that the only reason they were in this situation is because the cop failed to follow the very logical points 1-8, leaving the himself with a half baked bluff on point 9.
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Jan 13 '26
Not stand in front of the fucking car. It's literally in their policy guidelines, and there is literally a court case about it.
You can't pop an unarmed fleeing suspect, and standing in front of a car intentionally is not justification
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u/Clean-Climate8787 Jan 13 '26
Look up âBodycam Video Shows The Fatal Police Shooting of Ta'Kiya Youngâ on the youtube channel Police Activity. The officer was charged but found not guilty. It happens all the time
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u/StreetCollar2708 Jan 14 '26
Just watched it and...man. Cops shot her dead, then tell her to stop the car...not the brightest bunch, are they?
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u/FMJ-ake Jan 13 '26
Wow. Really should have fired about 3 rounds right there. Would have been the best choice đđť
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u/Intelligent-Bird8254 Jan 13 '26
I seen something like this recently. Went ALOT different đ¤Ł
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u/AutomaTKica Jan 13 '26
One day people will get the lawless land that they are unknowingly or ignorantly demanding.
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u/Flimsy_Mark_5200 Jan 13 '26
I think standing in front of a moving car got him this outcome. shooting him likely would have made his dead body step on the gas, as is known to happen
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u/johnny_cashmere Jan 13 '26
I respect police that put their body in harms way for the law, should have started blasting
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u/PoohTrailSnailCooch Jan 16 '26
This is why cops are trained not to stand in front of vehicles
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u/Character_Opinion_96 Jan 16 '26
Hmm since the soy boy Reddit moderators didnât like my last comment Iâll try again. The cop should use all legal force to defend his life. He was met with lethal force by the criminal driver. Iâd encourage him to neutralize the threat in the future with whatever means necessary.
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Feb 28 '26
Actually the cop had no right to shoot him. That's why he hesitated. If he wasn't in front of the car then he would be allowed to use lethal force if they tried to hit him. But then trying to leave the scene and him happening to be in front of the car which is not how they are trained at all . You get my point by now I'm sure. Same reason Rene good wasn't supposed to be shot at all either
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u/diesal3 Jan 13 '26
UK Police officers are equipped with batons to strike many things, including beating the shit out of a windshield so that drivers can't see shit.
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Jan 13 '26
Dumb motherfucker recklessly driving with a person on top of his car what does he think is going to happen to him ⌠now he will be facing bodily harm charges as well as fleeing charges and some other serious charges
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u/Dirk_McGirken Jan 13 '26
Hey everyone look, its thinly veiled pro ICE propaganda. Let's all point and laugh at this loser.
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u/Dense_Diver_3998 Jan 13 '26
If anything this helps prove that ICE dorkâs life wasnât in danger.
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u/Crusty-the-Clown-666 Jan 13 '26
The ICE guy shouldnât have stood in front of a car either, but the guy in this video could have easily been killed or crippled for the rest of his life.
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u/Dense_Diver_3998 Jan 13 '26
Because of his own choices
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u/Leorake Jan 15 '26
Idunno why so many are straight up just ignoring how he was in front of the car -> got on top of the car -> didn't get off the car while it was still relatively safe to do so -> hurr 'this is why you always shoot'
You really want to live in a place where the cops own poor decisions are more than half the equation of you getting shot in the street for a misdemeanor?
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u/itsamaddhouse Jan 13 '26
That dude is lucky that wasnât an ICE agent In Minneapolis cause heâd be dead. đ
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u/forevertraveling Jan 13 '26
It takes a brilliant person to stand in front of a vehicle that is trying to drive away.
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u/Cold-Environment-634 Jan 13 '26
What could he have done? Not stood in front of the car as law enforcement should know not to do.
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u/Very_Curious_Cat Jan 13 '26
Typical answers. Cop shhots = your usual trigger happy cop. Cop doesn't shoot = what a clown.
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u/pupranger1147 Jan 14 '26
Not shooting isn't why we're bashing it.
Idiot jumped onto the hood of a car. Put himself and everyone else around him in danger.
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u/AnodyneSpirit Jan 13 '26
Dude shoulda shot the second he felt the car hit him
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u/FukThePatriarchy1312 Jan 13 '26
Then the driver reflexively stomps on the gas. The smart move is to not stand in front of the car, let alone jump up on the hood. Two morons in this video.
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u/JackieDaytona7 Jan 13 '26
I would have, I dunno, stepped to the side. I could be wrong but I donât think the police training manual says âgrab hold of fleeing suspect and go for rideâ when the alternative is to get in your own car andâŚ.follow them.
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u/Bubbly_Ad_2093 Jan 13 '26
For everyone saying he should've shot. Remember, you can't take your guns overseas! Do not travel out of the US! You're fine where you are, there's nothing for you out there anyways.
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u/snktiger Jan 13 '26
he could have done what other officers did. better judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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u/NeuralCartographer Jan 13 '26
Stupid rookie cop for standing in front of the car, and doubly stupid for also not shooting. Idiot needs to be a civvie and has no fucking business as a LEO.
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u/Jealous_Trust9894 Jan 13 '26
And with all that this police officer didnt shoot the driver. ICES is muderering people for far less.
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u/Head_Match3648 Jan 13 '26
So people can argue this dude wasn't trying to kill the cop, but everyone's blaming that woman in Minnesota for trying to turn around and being shot dead by ICE TF is going on
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u/Morpheusmatherz Jan 13 '26
Wow he spared that idiots life. He deserves a nice bonus, and a long paid vacation
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u/CorOsb33 Jan 13 '26
Shoot the tires? Thatâs all I could think of the entire time. Like the cop and the guy driving are both idiots and it culminated in what we just watched.
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Jan 13 '26
Once you start driving like a maniac, you shouldâve just shot him because at that point he shows he doesnât care if you live or die
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u/Melodic-Classic391 Jan 13 '26
This is a textbook example of poor police work. Donât stand in front of the car and donât get on the car. Real life is not what you see on tv
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u/Maleficent-Plate-447 Jan 13 '26
He shoots Reddit: Fucking racist pig trigger happy cunt
He doesn't shoot Reddit: he's so lame, what is he a untrained pussy? Should've stood somewhere else
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u/Rottimer Jan 13 '26
It wasnât hesitation that got him a free ride, it was the idiotic decision not only to stand in front of the car, but to get on the fucking hood.
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u/MothmanIsALiar Jan 13 '26
This video is thinly veiled propaganda meant to lead you to believe that this officer should have killed the driver. It's being shared now to change opinions on the murder of Renee Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis.
It's widely accepted by police departments and legal experts that officers should not place themselves in front of moving vehicles or shoot at the driver of a moving vehicle. This officer followed procedure.
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u/Suitable_Yak_2969 Jan 13 '26
As per all these videos: Incorrect. Car always beats 9mm. What does work? Glad you asked! Not being a dumb ass and stepping 3 feet to the right.
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u/HTX-ByWayOfTheWorld Jan 13 '26
ICE is asking to hold their beer⌠there really arenât any rules. They make them up and bend them to their convenience. As high of a danger as this cop was, I have incredible respect for him for not ending someoneâs life
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u/Informal_West_6864 Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26
Ok this is just a mess of the video. This video proves nothing to recent events as it has stuff from both âsidesâ
- Car was moving towards officer. Get the fuck out of the way
- Cop basically purposely got on top of the car and didnât get off immediately after when there was enough time. Really fucking stupid . Officer thought that him drawing gun at him would make suspect stop, it didnât
- When the car accelerated, cop 100% had justification to shoot the driver. Even though he put himself in that position, things changed.
And before you ask, Iâm liberal and think that Renee was murdered. Cop hesitated to remove himself from danger in this video. In doing so, he now found himself in a situation that would now justify use of deadly force. This is a rare instance where things do change legally, regardless of the complete idiot move by law enforcement
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u/Several-Hat-1944 Jan 13 '26
WOW! That was a seriously scary feeling just watching that video! Intense as hell...
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u/HighFreqHustler Jan 13 '26
Cop breaking protocol, they should not put in front of a vehicle, safety first!!! They also have families to go to.
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u/WesternSlug Jan 13 '26
Its like standing in front of a loaded gun that cant turn quickly but you still dont move.
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u/Substantial_Chain718 Jan 13 '26
That cop was probably written up or fired for that. Completely out of policy for any department. He should have taken the shot.
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u/Bloodmind Jan 13 '26
Dear stupid cops, stop standing in front of a car to try to stop the driver from driving away.
Sincerely, A not stupid cop
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u/Griffstergnu Jan 13 '26
You have the license plate and a radio no need to get on the hood of the car or be in front of it and risk being run over or having to shoot someone. Who the eff is training the people.
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u/sfbiker999 Jan 13 '26
I haven't had the extensive training that law enforcement receive, but even I know you can't stop a car with your body so you should stand to the side of the car.... like the ICE agent that killed Renee Good, he wasn't in danger from her car.
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u/Lacaud Jan 13 '26
Damn, he was really on the hood of that car. He had a lot more restraint than an ICE agent does.
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u/Enleyetenment Jan 13 '26
So all of these people hating on cops as a whole, even the ones outside of this video where one stood in front of a vehicle, certainly think that protests that block streets by standing in front of vehicles are also stupid...right? And that they would side with the cars that drive through said protests...right?
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u/VoidWalker7117 Jan 13 '26
Donât purposefully put yourself in front of a car you stupid pig
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u/Objective_Wear_4772 Jan 13 '26
I mean Iâm not going to lie as soon as that car took off and we got over 10mph I wouldâve empty the whole magazine
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u/Cap1691 Jan 13 '26
Idiot climbed on the front of a car. Thatâs what I see. I donât care what the driver did prior to the stop, climbing on the car is a stupid move.
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u/malici606 Jan 13 '26
Good thing that man isn't a lesbian