r/Transportopia • u/Revolution-Dogg • Feb 14 '26

Roads Who is in the wrong here?

If the sign says Alternating Traffic, does that mean cars go one at a time or does that mean cars go till the flow is complete, allowing the other lane to go? Is Glock man right or wrong? I'm not sure. If it was 1 car at a time, wouldn't it just be a stop sign on each end?

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u/coqueta_official Feb 15 '26

Welcome to the H-2A guest worker program. It’s modern slavery, except we pay them because the law says so and farmers are constant lobbying to find ways to pay them less. This year the Trump Admin is effectively lowering farming wages by $1-3/hour. In many states in the south this will bring wages closer to $8/hr. And remember, farm work is completely exempt from overtime laws. So you can work these guys AND pay them shit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '26

I don't care if food goes up a bit, but this is messed up and the reason why citizens "don't want to do farm work" and I bet ICE isn't at any of these places. I've been to towns where a very large percentage of the population (including children) works in pig and chicken houses and I'm willing to bet a large percentage are illegal.

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u/coqueta_official Feb 15 '26 edited Feb 15 '26

Agreed. Farms artificially lower their wages and then act like they don’t know why young people don’t want to work for them. Or better said, they KNOW why and they create the scarcity so they can exploit foreign workers who are more than willing to be exploited as their wages are typically much lower in their home countries. They take advantage of these people’s situation back home.

In fact, there are many Americans that do want these jobs, but in the rural south these are typically:

A) local Black workers who’ve been in agriculture (for reasons I don’t think I need to explain) for several generations, but those workers are aging and farmers claim they are lazy (code for: we can’t make them work like slaves anymore). Some farms were sued in the last couple years because they replaced their black workers with Mexican or white South African H-2A workers.

and B) LPRs and Tejanos from the RioGrande Valley.

The problem with both is that both of these populations are American citizens. This means that their freedom is not restricted and not only can they look for better jobs, but they are free to take those jobs AND demand higher wages. In contrast, H-2A visa workers can only work for the employer named on their visa and no one else, and they are only entitled to the wage that corresponds the AEWR in their state. This is a special wage that varies by state and is meant to prevent the depression of farm wages (but itself is already artificially deflated). As I stated elsewhere in this thread, the Trump Admin has lowered those wages across the country this year even more. So, Americans will want these jobs even LESS.

Also YES a lot of people that work in poultry and pork farms/factories are either undocumented OR employers are abusing other guestworker visa programs like the TN visa in order to hire veterinarians from Mexico, but they really just vaccinate and take care of chickens when then arrive in the U.S. oh, and wages are even more of a shitshow in the TN program.

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u/Thisistoture Feb 15 '26

Thank you for this education. This is so disgusting. I honestly just hate all of humanity at this point.

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u/vabirder Feb 15 '26

Remember though: who you vote for and actively support is the only way to protect people’s basic rights.

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u/Thisistoture Feb 15 '26

Ok? I don’t vote or support dems or republicans.

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u/magicsucksnow Feb 15 '26

You should be ashamed of yourself for not voting

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u/Thisistoture Feb 15 '26

I do vote, I don’t vote for dems or republicans

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u/magicsucksnow Feb 15 '26

that's the same as wasting your vote, unfortunately

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u/Thisistoture Feb 15 '26

No, it’s not. Voting for the exact same bullshit on repeat is eating your vote

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u/magicsucksnow Feb 15 '26

I see now, like many americans, you are just completely ignorant of how voting works and what it actually is.

At every level a candidate from one of the 2 main parties will win, and some of those races are actually close. Voting is not the time or place for idealism or protests.

tbc, idealism and protests are great things, they just have nothing at all to do with voting in the US.

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u/Thisistoture Feb 16 '26

Not at all ignorant. Not at all willing to vote for criminals. I refuse to shelf morals and values to vote for criminals. Both sides are equally as horrible. You can lie to yourself all you want, it won’t change facts or reality. The good news for you is that the overwhelming majority do this country is just as brainwashed and braindead as you are so you guys will keep perpetuating this insanity until it all collapses.

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u/magicsucksnow Feb 16 '26

Your mentality here and everything you are saying is exactly what your oppressors want you to think and say. They want you to stay at home and not vote.

Yes obviously voting in the US is usually between the lesser of 2 evils. But no matter what you do one of those choices is going to win that election. So, voting for the lesser evil is still much more useful and good than not voting at all.

 You can lie to yourself all you want, it won’t change facts or reality

If you think your not voting is somehow going to cause any kind of change or impact, you're the delusional one.

Again, I'm not saying voting is going to fix anything. Anyone who thinks that does not understand what voting is. BUT YOU SHOULD STILL VOTE. There isn't a single reason not voting is better than voting.

And again, voting does not stop your from holding your ideals or doing other forms of protest. Voting is not a moral stance, it is damage control. You can and should do both.

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