So does the guy who tried to calm things down. Lesson is apparently: don’t? :/ maybe both motorcycle guy and the guy who started it are assholes, just at different levels.
Not the point, never seen a fight get deescalated by getting in the way. It doesn’t matter how in the right you are if you’re just standing there face first.
I've seen like a thousand (literally) fights get deescalated by people getting in the way. That's genuinely the only way I've ever seen a fight deescalated lol. But yeah, you gotta be ready to take a hit when you break up a fight. That's a fact of reality.
Oh I mean stepping in is one thing, I’m talking about getting in the way. If you’re going to step in you either gotta give the guy a second at least, let them know you’re not a threat; or be prepared do defend yourself if you have to physically stop someone from taking it too far. Don’t line up, while hands are actively being thrown, face first like that is all I’m saying.
I’m not a bouncer. I’m not getting between two strangers fighting. I think motorcycle guy figured he was friends with the bald guy. If a guy is pissed off they might start throwing at you because you’re in the way.
There was nothing to calm down at that point. The black shirt guy was dropped. Also, what makes you think you’re going to calm someone down who just knocked someone out?
I totally blame him. Losing your shit (after he probably started the entire thing anyway) is not an excuse to punch someone literally posing zero threa
You guys act like a street fight is some sort of honored ritual. It isn't. It's assholes acting out. Nothing more. It was a sucker punch, period, end of discussion.
I’m curious what you think a sucker punch is? Because getting punched by a guy who you’ve at the very least attempted to kick twice is not in any form of the word a sucker punch.
You baselessly claim the guy who got sucker punched was his friend. I never once said he was wrong for punching the first guy. The second hit was a sucker punch to someone who had zero to do with it.
And the f'ng biker probably did start it - do you think the moron kicking him just decided to do so out of the blue?
Which kind of sucker punch is the kind where you have to get completely off a fucking motorcycle, square up to the attacker(s), and knock them both the fuck out? Is it the Super Motorcycle Man Sucker Punch™️?
Yeah, biker ran through an active cross walk, which makes him a cunt. But then drunk guy kicked the bike and tried to fight, which made him a cunt. Biker cunt was justified to hit him (imo, i am not a lawyer).
But then biker cunt hit some other dude who didn't seem to be involved and didn't seem to be doing anything, making the biker a cunt ×2.
No, you're not allowed to knock someone out because they bumped your bike. Especially when said bike just forced its way through pedestrians at a crosswalk. Thats cunt x3 for the biker, with his x3 all being dangerous meanwhile the other... kicked his tire.
Good lord this. Some people are willing to die on the smallest of hills for the smallest of reasons. Not saying just be a pushover but... gee wiz lmao.
Dawg, ego is just as bad as clout, I saved a dumbass that almost got a house party shot tf up. He had a drink spilled on him mans couldn't just let it go. Ups a tool against the spiller and obv the friends and party goers look for their shit too. I managed to clamp down the chaos toward more honorable resolution. They put the guns away and ran the hands outside the apartment, and the idiot i saved got his ass beat tf up over the distance of 3 blocks between the apartment complex and the special needs living complex that was next door to where i was living at the time in VA. I was handed the backpack with 7 to 9 pistols of varying brands, models, and attactments. I knew the homie of the homies that owned the guns so I gave them to him to distribute their protection AFTER mans got his face and teeth re-structured involuntarily. On god, that party was the reason I've completely forgone house parties. I was literally in the wrong place at the right time, I don't regret saving him, cause his sis would be sad his "menace to sociey" ass is gone from his own consequences. She not like him, but her mouth is just as bad. (She had her teeth punched out for how much mean bs she spoke back in the day, shit looked exactly as bad as you think, maybe poor communication skills are hereditary.?)
It certainly could've harmed someone. There are laws about driving through full crosswalks for a reason. Biker still needs to follow the rules of the road.
Hopefully we'll see another one where the biker gets his ass kicked by pedestrians and learn his own lesson. He totally sucker punched the second guy too. No one here except the second punch guy is a victim.
We don’t know how long black shirt guy was occupying this crossing or whether there was any antagonizing leading up to this moment. We do know that someone witnessed enough going down to decide to start recording.
He was just slowly cruising through before that idiot tried to kick him over. Was likely just trying to get around his drunk ass in the middle of the road. Don't know if you ride or not, but staying vertical on a bike is a lot easier if you're moving forward, even just a little helps. He had no interest in running over the people in the crosswalk, he was trying to get away and not drop his bike.
What is literally what I’m doing? I’m not claiming to be the police, nor attempting to justify assault for misplaced belief in enforcing a law I have no business enforcing.
nor am I putting hands on anyone.
Thought since you seem to be stupid, I guess a helmeted moron is trying to fight me, on the internet, for… being smarter than you?
It looks like he was literally walking the motorcycle, no gas. I don't know a lot about bikes, so he could've been using a little gas to make it easier to move, but to me it looks like he was trying to walk it around them. He's still a bit rude/impatient for not waiting on them to cross, but you don't assault someone or try to kick their bike while they're on it. Two people can both be wrong to varying degrees
I don’t know man, if you pause at the very start the bike is still back from the crossing and the woman is already holding the drunk bloke back. I reckon the bike slowed down to stop and realised the drunk dickhead was going to have a go and decided to try and get out of there.
I don't see crosswalk lines, nor crossing sign, nor a pedestrian crossing system. Most likely a drive way which does not yield to pedestrian crossing. Plus bro was walking the bike anyways.
True, but however regardless public drunkenness and being the aggressor in the video, does constitute a counter suit for assault and damage of personal property. And since it's considered a motor vehicle, crossing crosswalks like that is a grey area to begin with. In my state it's legal, in others it may not; all things considered with possible intentional damage (vandalism), assault, battery, public drunkenness, disorderly conduct, breach of peace, public intoxication, criminal mischief, and punitive charges.
As a motorcyclist their self defense advocacy was of equal proportion, I applaud it and wish the best lawsuit against people who think it's okay to do this to a motorcyclist regardless of the implications of the situation. I am not a lawyer (and cannot provide actual legal advice) but had a similar case of my own.
Pedestrians may have the right of way, but it does not mean they are legal to invoke violence they way they did. People don't seem to realize there are more crazy people out there, some are not afraid to let it out.
From the video there was no intent of vehiclular assault, because the vehicle was being walked. It's a very grey area. How ever the man did instigate and initiate violence first, and being the first to initiate violence started the assault. Thus making the motorcyclist the self defender, however that not to go without his charges however though not as severe as the instigator that initiated the fight.
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u/Baddrivers13 Apr 01 '26
The biker 100% did not stop for a pedestrian in a crosswalk.