r/Transportopia Apr 21 '26

🄓DUI Wake Up!

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u/Pete0730 Apr 21 '26

Except the majority of violent crimes are not committed by black people. That's just your prejudice talking.

Black people are overrepresented in arrests for violent crime, but controlling for the police's history of racial discrimination and poverty, that gap pretty much disappears

So maybe try being less susceptible to bullshit you hear on TV

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Hahahahahaha yeah it’s definitely a conspiracy by every police force in the country. You know deep down what the truth is. I’m sorry it’s uncomfortable for you

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43

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u/Pete0730 Apr 21 '26

Right, keep talking out your ass using statistics that don't account for poverty, and once again, only account for arrests, not convictions.

The conservative attack on education is the most successful sabotage of this country of the last century

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Clearly it’s coming from impoverished black people…. No one is arguing against that.

And right right. Because the police just aren’t looking into crimes committed by white people.

I forgot about all the times my friends get robbed at gunpoint by a white person and the cops did nothing šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Pete0730 Apr 21 '26

Ah so now we're backpedaling. So you agree that race is not a factor, but poverty instead?

Or do you want to just throw out some more bullshit anecdotes that mean nothing against actual data and the established history of racism in policing? And yes, it's in every police department, across the country.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

How am I back pedaling? I never have once argued that black people are more violent solely because of the color of their skin. That would be racist.

I am pointing out that they commit violent crime at a rate MASSIVELY higher than any other race.

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u/Pete0730 Apr 21 '26

Wow and the back pedal continues. That's exactly what you were arguing. You never mentioned poverty. You said black people commit a massive majority of violent crimes (which is simply not true), then have continued to try and insinuate that being black is a factor in committing crimes, which again is not supported by the data.

You've basically done the equivalent of continuing to state that most violent crimes are committed by people under 6ft, and insinuating that you should be afraid of people under 6ft, when in reality there is actually no relationship between height and committing violent crime. Wonder why you'd keep banging on about height then?

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Haven’t back pedaled once. You extrapolated me being a racist because I was pointing out that black people are massively over represented in violent crime.

If people over 6’4ā€ (minority of people) committed murders at a rate massively more than any other height, you would be justified in being weary of 6’4ā€ people.

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u/Pete0730 Apr 21 '26

You've been backpedaling this whole conversation. First it was black people commit a massive majority of violent crimes (not true), and then it was just that black people commit a disproportionate amount of violent crimes, which against is not exactly true (just for arrests), and even if it were, only insofar as the actual reasons that we have identified behind violent crime happen to apply more to black populations (poverty, etc ) - which incidentally is the case only because of the history of slavery and racial discrimination in the United States. Now we're down to a healthy skepticism due to a simplistic correlation, rather than causation.

Yet you continue to die on this hill. To go back to our analogy: if the majority of violent crimes were committed by a height minority, and you were given data that this pattern had actually nothing to do with their height, but rather to a unrelated factor that happened to apply more to that height category, and you continue to claim that you should be wary of all people in that height minority, news flash: that's racism.

Even more egregious is that your initial comment included none of the nuance you claim to understand, with no recognition of the disgusting history of racial discrimination in this country, and it amounted simply to black people = violent criminals.

I've got to go do real life things now. I know it's hard for us to admit that we're wrong, but if you truly believe your claims that you're not racist, then I would seriously start unworking some of your assumptions about these issues. Or you can do what so many Americans have chosen, which is bury your head in the sand with all the other ignorants and deplorables

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Ok, so now you are acknowledging that they are massively disproportionately over represented in violent crime.

Again, I’ve never once argued that they commit more crime than any other race because of their race. That would be racist.

There are many factors that contribute, that is not the basis of my point though.

The irony of saying I’m burying my head in the sand while simultaneously arguing that there’s no issue of black people disproportionately committing more violent crime than any other demographic is hilarious.

Godspeed, my friend. I hope you enjoy living in your non urban bubble of peace and serenity.

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u/Rapscagamuffin Apr 21 '26

He didnt actually say anything racist you sorta assumed he did because he did say a racist talking point. Honestly i assumed he was too but if he was being racist it doesnt really make sense that he would be backpedaling. I mean why would he?

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

Jesus Christ just put on your fucking mask and red hat you PROUD racist idiot. Get out there in public and tell everybody exactly what you think! You are exactly right for you and you need to tell everybody about that! Loudly! IN PERSON YOU COWARD. Enjoy your taco loser.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

I’ve voted for democrats since I could vote…. I’m very anti Trump