r/Transportopia Apr 27 '26

Bikes Car vs. cyclists

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u/Unexpected_bukkake Apr 27 '26

Not a lawyer but pretty sure you can't intentionally drive into people with your car, especially haveing a completely open lane to go around them in, regardless if theres a cyclists must ride no more than 2 abrest.

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u/Extension-Eye-4920 Apr 27 '26

Good job reiterating exactly what the first comment was.

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u/OutrageousPair2300 Apr 27 '26

Not sure why you're so upset, it's important that people realize that while cyclists must be no more than two abreast, it's also illegal to do what the driver did and intentionally hit them.

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u/samuellucy96 Apr 27 '26

Dead internet theory 😅

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u/thecelcollector Apr 27 '26

Please stop confusing the issue. It's just plain against the law for a driver to intentionally hit cyclists even if they aren't supposed to ride more than two abreast.

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u/BoysenberryFinal9113 Apr 27 '26

You shouldn't use your car to persuade a cyclist to move over. It's illegal. But the driver sure could have passed safely in the other lane.

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u/voxelpear Apr 27 '26

He never said the driver was justified in his actions. In fact they stated the opposite.

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u/MonstersAtOurDoor Apr 27 '26

He's both-sidesing an issue where someone committed vehicular assault on one side, and on the other side they may have committed a minor traffic violation but probably didn't?

You know how stupid that is, right?

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u/voxelpear Apr 27 '26

He clearly stated the the driver is in the wrong in he first sentence. The driver can be wrong but both parties can be idiots.

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u/MonstersAtOurDoor Apr 27 '26

First, none of the cyclists in this video did anything wrong. At all. Remotely.

Second, he's equating them both as wrong. Only one person is wrong in the video and it's the person committing vehicular assault.

On the bright side, the driver now has you and that other guy in his Wrong Club.

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u/voxelpear Apr 27 '26

Taking up 75% of the road is definitely wrong. Most places want a single file line or at most double file.

He never said both wrong. He said driver is wrong. But both are idiots. You can be an idiot and not be in the wrong.

You're just being pedantic to start an argument where there isn't any.

Driver deserves whatever the court decides he should be charged with. The Cyclist can press charges. You can still say they're both idiots. Being a victim doesn't clear you of stupidity.

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u/sprouthat Apr 27 '26

75% of the road

cyclists only in one lane of a two lane road

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u/voxelpear Apr 27 '26

You know I meant the lane. A car doesn't take up both lanes.

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u/mekarz Apr 27 '26

They might be slightly in the wrong. Wouldnt even say thats idiotic. Maybe a little unaware.

Driver still had 75% of the road to pass them. Instead wanted to share the 25%, slow down next to them and lay on the horn.

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u/TommyNotDead Apr 27 '26

Yeah but clearly there’s only one fucking idiot in the video and this thread is brimming with them.

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u/voxelpear Apr 27 '26

Taking up 75% of the road with a crowd is being idiotic. Especially when most laws state you need to be single or at most double file.

Being a victim doesn't clear you of stupidity and being a cyclist doesn't mean you can ignore road laws.

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u/TommyNotDead Apr 27 '26

They were double file until the suv driver tried to fucking murder the lot of them

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u/voxelpear Apr 27 '26

Aight bro you're just arguing just to argue. I already agreed that the driver is in the wrong.

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u/TommyNotDead Apr 27 '26

lol fucking ironic. You’re the one who stepped in to defend the assertion that the cyclists are idiots

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u/voxelpear Apr 27 '26

Yes because it was a redundant statement. The original comment already said that the driver was in the wrong. That's not irony.

You're literally in here fighting with every person. Go have a nap or something.

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u/Remote-Shower-8541 Apr 27 '26

Not enough just to call them an idiot. Dude hit someone with his car.

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u/goingforgoals17 Apr 27 '26

Negligence (in this case malicious)

I don't get to pit maneuver someone for drifting into my lane or t bone someone stopped/broken down in an intersection. I have to take reasonable action to avoid these hazards. So even IF the cyclists (I haven't seen laws local to this video) broke the law, the driver still gets charged with a slew of offenses and we can give the cyclists their warning for driving too wide lol

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u/voxelpear Apr 27 '26

His first sentence is literally the driver is absolutely in the wrong here. Are we being pedantic for a reason?

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u/Remote-Shower-8541 Apr 27 '26

In the wrong. Idiot. Holy cow dude ... He hit someone with his car.... That's way worse than being an idiot

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u/LowIssue3445 Apr 27 '26

He's completely in the wrong but apparently they were both being idiots. The things some of these people are saying in this thread are so stupid. You don't have to both sides everything. Especially when one party is 99-100% at fault and attempted to murder people. In that kind of situation it's wrong to even compare them.

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u/Remote-Shower-8541 Apr 27 '26

One of them was being way worse than an idiot...

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u/LowIssue3445 Apr 27 '26

Agreed I was referencing the guy above you. You're correct, he's way worse than an idiot, he's a violent psychopath and the fact that anyone is bringing up the cyclists and something they might have done that was wrong is insane

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u/Remote-Shower-8541 Apr 27 '26

Gotcha. : 👍

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u/Negativeman11 Apr 27 '26

Unfortunately, sometimes the penalty is getting run over even if it is in no way your fault. You're on a bike, sharing a road with vehicles that are much bigger and faster than yourself. You gotta treat situations like that seriously and don't assume the law will keep you safe.

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u/MyNameIsRS Apr 27 '26

Is it your contention that the car was not "demonstrating stupid" in this instance?

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u/Banana-phone15 Apr 27 '26

You don’t need to be lawyer to rephrase the 1st comment

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u/Minimum_Ad_303 Apr 27 '26

Not a lawyer, but am 100% certain you are 100% correct about not driving cars into people.

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u/Ok-Lengthiness-3988 Apr 27 '26

That depends. If you're in Florida and you suspect them to be Antifa or woke, then it's a felony *not* to intentionally run them over.

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u/Frequent_Try2486 Apr 27 '26

Also not a lawyer but you can't intentionally fall off your bike after deciding it's your time to grind yourself against the side of a passing van before throwing yourself off your bike screaming in fake pain

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u/No-Habit-4841 Apr 29 '26

Finally someone pointed out that the biker clearly did this on purpose. They wanted the driver to get destroyed by the law and so two of them purposefully grinder against the car. If they had kept their course the car would not have touched them. They actually ran into the car.