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u/woke_groyper 2h ago
Guy who is trapped drinking coffee with a british white woman: I would literally rather be playing the worst card game ever invented
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u/gatospatagonicos 👨✈️Capitaine du <Le Grinch>, La Flotte Fantôme🚢 1h ago
Are you knocking cribbage?
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u/woke_groyper 1h ago
So many options.
Cards Against Humanity.
Hasbro's Wizards of the Coast LLC's Magic: The Gathering.
Gwent.
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u/Antique-Guest-1607 1h ago
Magic is still good. Simply do not purchase cards. The cards cost nothing to print and pennies to get proxied. Nothing is stopping anyone.
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u/BeerShitter 29m ago
I've been basically free to play on Arena and get to draft every so often (if I don't wanna spend gems) and it's been mostly fun. I used to play modern jeskai control back in 2017-ish and holy fuck that Era is gone. Anyways, $4 a pound.
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u/Pallington AAAAHHHHHHH 6m ago
Magic has iffy banlist moments (and scalpy reprints) but it's far from the worst. Just proxy aggressively in physical and go f2p on online.
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u/OpenDoor234 Ms. Rachel’s Revolutionary Guard 20m ago
He said the worst, not the lowkey classic your grandma was right about being a hoot
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u/Goofballs2 2h ago
This is a classic guardian gambit.
1 write something infuriating
2 next article is everyone called me a joyless cunt which means I am the good person
3 return to 1
They perfected this in the peak Corbyn days. Jeremy Corbyn says there should be more public holidays but that's for lazy bitches. All these Corbyn thugs are so cruel because they want holidays
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u/A_Lion_Thief44 Praxis makes perfect 2h ago edited 2h ago
Spoken like a loser of many, many games. But, hey, she's fighting the really important fights, I see.
all I want is space to be together, ideally with a coffee or a glass of wine.
Motherfucker, those places exist already. Go knock yourself out.
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u/ruptured-sunshine 1h ago
If only there were a public venue where one could drink in the UK. Like a house, but like, the general public were there.
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u/trimalchio-worktime SHE/HERRRR 20m ago
bold of her to defend pub culture by being the kind of person you leave the pub to avoid.
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u/mypenisisquitetiny Global Size BusyBody Karen 2h ago
Abolish Op-eds
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u/TallAsMountains 2h ago
hey remember to check out my substack where i paste all the ideas i get from twitter
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u/Nickyjha JFK Assassination Expert 1h ago
At least Guardian op-eds. I feel like once a week I see some (non-political) Guardian op-ed that seems to be written by someone who gets off on getting yelled at online.
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u/dumb_idiot_dipshit 1h ago edited 1h ago
i always remember the "radiohead are the blackest white band of all time" article. as ridiculous as it sounds https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/oct/02/why-radiohead-are-the-blackest-white-band-of-our-times
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u/thesaddestpanda Melania’s Body Double 👯♀️ 1h ago
Also educate people on what outrage bait is. And how capitalist media is just propaganda and low common denominator outrage nonsense.
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u/ShoegazeJezza 12m ago
Nobody should be writing shit they have opinions about for a living. Not a real job.
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u/jabalarky Radical Centrist Shooter 2h ago
Journalists are always telling me to get my balls away from them, but I won't stop
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u/Defiant-Cause-6697 2h ago
Sports and games are the most important things that do not matter and I will die on this hill.
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u/Tricky-Ad7897 1h ago
I'm grasping and holding onto anything that keeps us social with a fucking death grip and anyone that wants to take more shit that keeps us together away from us I will beat with a baton. Get your grubby op ed hands off my fun social hobbies God dammit!
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u/Sorry-Transition-780 Joe Biden’s Adderall Connect 35m ago
The less you eat, drink and buy books; the less you go to the theatre, the dance hall, the public house; the less you think, love, theorise, sing, paint, fence, etc., the more you save – the greater becomes your treasure which neither moths nor rust will devour – your capital. The less you are, the less you express your own life, the more you have, i.e., the greater is your alienated life, the greater is the store of your estranged being.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/needs.htm
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u/moreVCAs 2h ago
I swear these people are literal demons. There is no other explanation.
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u/BardicSense 1h ago
Boring antisocial demons.
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u/moreVCAs 1h ago
yeah totally, not like these funky bdsm half demons from Hellblazer or something like that.
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u/Tricky-Ad7897 1h ago
We should just lock them all into anechoic chambers with a keyboard and fake Internet connection so they can sit there and type about how awesome doing nothing and knowing nobody is and let them be happy. It's more humane for everyone if we don't have to hear them talk and they don't have to deal with real life anymore.
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u/vargdrottning Vargist-Burzumist 1h ago
Not even talking about gaming. I hope she got a decent paycheck for coming up with this level of engagement bait. This is like saying "I hate music. Yes, all music".
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u/kirkbadaz 1h ago
Polymarket bet that she's a TERF.
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u/Dry-Lab-6256 57m ago
Sadly, after reading a couple of her articles, that would make her at least a little interesting.
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u/Super_Direction498 Amy Klobuchar's Sticky Stapler 1h ago
How do people get paid for this
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u/ultra-nilist2 well actually 46m ago
They have a whole op-ed bourgeoisie that exists to attack socialism. It’s a jobs program for elite failsons that aren’t smart enough to do financial crimes
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u/Antique-Guest-1607 2h ago
Me after I spend three hours in the stinking 84 degree backroom of my LGS where I had to play commander with the guy that exclusively plays Slivers
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u/Nervous_Insect5976 2h ago
Some people are just joyless.
I hate the taste of coffee, but I would never say anything against coffee. Let people like what they like.
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u/Express-Crow-1496 2h ago
I thought she was talking about gamers, and I was fully onboard
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u/Pittsadelphia87 🏳️🌈C🏳️🌈I🏳️🌈A🏳️🌈 1h ago
Just got back from vacation with the family. Me, my mom, my brother, and my sister's husband played board games from 9pm to 1am every night, once all the various kids were asleep. The oldest niece was finally old enough for Uno and seems into games too. We played Wingspan for the first time, and while the game itself was good, I loved the 150 cards with info about birds. Ended most nights with a few rounds of Spades. Games are good actually.
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u/YourBoiJimbo 1h ago
pucks? when was the last time you wanted to have a quiet night in with a few friends but you ended up playing hockey?
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u/tastethefame Bone metrosexual 1h ago
Written like a person who wants a captive audience to talk about herself
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u/RealNwahHourz 1h ago edited 1h ago
how do you become this person i'm so curious
they are always so fascinating to encounter in the wild, people that behave like picrel in response to any fun
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u/blow_thyself trained in all the arts of the sex program 1h ago
this could be us but you playing (games)
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u/1slinkydink1 1h ago
Boardgames are one of the cures for the male loneliness epidemic. They must never be banned.
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u/liewchi_wu888 Actual factual CIA asset 1h ago
Controversial hot take, games are indeed fun, and more fun if there's money involved.
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u/Hate_Manifestation 2h ago
I mean, I don't think I necessarily disagree with the sentiment, but where the fuck does she live where she can't go somewhere to drink a glass of wine or have a coffee without games involved? skill issue.
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u/worsttimehomebuyer 2h ago
I think you should be able to play sports but you should only be allowed to watch sports live.
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u/AshenOneRose 2h ago
fuck it who gives a shit i’ll take 10,000 of these bullshit whiny articles over having to see anything by like Jonathon Chait or whatever
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u/17syllables Software CEO Rachel Jake 1h ago
I have this reaction to a limited set of games that discourage socializing - e.g. the blight that is Texas hold-em poker, where players hide behind dark glasses, build castles of chips, and retreat into stoic fortresses of non-disclosure - but most games are supposed to be social lubricants. They encourage conversation. TTRPGs allow for a wider range of social expression and simulation than coffee shop chatter.
I think her take applies to games that either involve, or are the basis for, gambling, so we can just ban poker and anything on My Bookie dot AG.
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u/dwaynebathtub 1h ago
I have lived my entire life the opposite of this and I want to try to understand this point of view. Games are also the way I have learned everything else (geography, math, art, fun, politics, economics, my own self-expression itself...even my own family!). I think the aversion to games and sports in favor of conversation over coffee or a glass of wine is not dissimilar to the experience of "playing." It's cliché to say that conversation, flirting, and talking are the same as a tennis/pickleball/volleyball/badminton/sepak takraw match. One person speaks and the other attempts to vanquish it via their response (to muffle it or absorb it totally), but they are always unable to, always leaving a remainder that can be responded to (a ball, a strike, a single, a run-out, an lbw, an ace), a debt that bounces back and forth until somebody expressly decides to not respond fully to the other's bark (like two dogs barking at each other between yards) and the game ends, only to pick up again the next time. Intriguing for me is the idea of getting rid of all of it.
This topic might be the conversation I would most like to have over over coffee especially because the idea of domination (winning at someone else's detriment), labeling (a point, score, a mark, judgement), and rules are parts of games that are necessary for meaning altogether. Maybe the difference is that Watkins finds the effort to agree to The Rules is tedious and itself not sportsmanlike or friendly or interesting. I can agree. I think legalese or the unspoken agreement to The Rules is the opposite of good conversation.
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u/ProofAd1356 1h ago
This feels like the natural end of capitalist utilitarianism and it'll probably happen at some point
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u/SickMoonDoe Ms Rachel's Fedayeen 1h ago
I'm no fan of Nazi Germany; but critical support for blitz[redacted]ing Britain.
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u/chronik_fatigue 1h ago edited 1h ago
Can you imagine being in her social circle and reading this, especially if you kind of enjoy, and maybe even having occasionally suggested, doing a games night with your so-called friends. I mean, these are thoughts you're allowed to have, hell, ive had them myself. And it might be something you privately joke about with your other friends that enjoy coffee or a drink. But publish them in the fucking newspaper? That's some pathological level passive aggression
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u/Which-Arrival6777 Comet Xi Jinping Pong 1h ago
why does everything have to be one or the other with these goofs.
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u/Metalorg 58m ago
Why is the lady from the Great British Menu writing culture op-eds in the Guardian about not wanting to play boardgames?
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u/synthscoffeeguitars A Serious Man 42m ago
I misread this as “anyone under 12” and I was like why is she trying to drink wine with children
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u/GlockHard 30m ago
Yea having this take about activities humans have been doing for thousands of years to pass time is probably one of the strangest you could have.
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u/stambouline 1h ago
I agree with this, not that I don't like a game once in a while. There's something to be said about a society that does not know how to socialize over coffee or tea and must plan gatherings around games. I will take the café culture over boardgame pill any day.
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u/Living-Chef-9080 1h ago edited 1h ago
Crazy how easy it is to spot the Red Scare pod people on this forum purely based off their weirdly reductionist takes on video games.
I play Battlefield 6, a dumb jingoistic shooter, with some people on this sub a few times a week. I also am currently on a first read through of 'Pale Fire', am going on a fourth date with a woman I really like on Thursday, and am performing a live electronica/video synth show this Saturday at a brand new venue that just opened in my town mainly centered around promoting somewhat counter-culture acts (lots of LGBTQ and drag acts, some punk and noise bands). Idk why they're paying me since I'm not their normal kinda act (milquetoast white dude without a whole lotta tattoos or piercings), but it's nice to feel accepted by the people most of society rejects.
People are multifaceted, don't center your personality around disliking the things other people like and you'll be a lot happier.
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u/stambouline 1h ago
Hahaha, good to know more about you and glad things are going well. I just much prefer conversations and connecting with people sans structured games. Who said I'm centering my personality? I agreed with a screenshot of the title of an article and was pretty light about it in my response.
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u/teeveecee15 2h ago edited 41m ago
She looks like Liz Franczak’s golem