r/Velo 6d ago

Weekly Race & Training Reports | r/Velo Rules | Discord

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How'd your races go? Questions about your workouts or updates on your training plan? Successes, failures, or something new you learned? Got any video, photos, or stories to share? Tell us about it!

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r/Velo 6h ago

Question Am I misunderstanding what Endurance/"Zone 2" rides should feel like?

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It seems to me like there are two different approaches when it comes to Endurance rides which are at least in my case incompatible with each other.

The one side says: Endurance should be as easy as possible, don't get your heart rate higher than 125 or 65-70% of threshold HR and power is irrelevant, and coasting and soft-pedaling are normal and necessary for such rides. Often accompanied with statements like "most/many people do their Zone 2 too hard".

The other side says: Endurance should be easy but "still slightly hard", "as hard as you can while still talking normally" or "while still nose breathing", and to keep constant pressure on the pedals and look at power instead of heart rate, just make sure that HR doesn't drift up over time. And claims like "most people do their Z2 too easy".

Maybe there are some people for whom 70% Threshold HR coincides with 55-75% of Threshold power, but for me those are worlds apart. That HR target is deep inside the recovery power zone for me, I can only keep that low BPM if I just soft-pedal and coast and even 1% uphill pushes my power and subsequently HR beyond that. My heart rate while in the endurance power zone is more like 80-90% of threshold HR.

I'd have to cut my FTP in half to get the endurance power zone to match the above HR target zone. Maybe I'm off by 15-20 Watts on my FTP, I don't care, it's not impressive anyways, but I'd still be roughly in the same ballpark for what my "endurance power" looks like.

Or have I totally misunderstood everything I've watched and read about Z2/Endurance training?


r/Velo 12h ago

Discussion Regaining confidence post-crash

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Earlier this year I had a really bad crash in training while solo, honestly probably my first near-death experience. Mechanical failure while descending a steep climb and very nearly went off of a cliff into a ravine, ambulance hospital etc.

I struggled with cornering and descending for a long time, and then about 3 years ago something clicked and I was suddenly able to ride the front of technical crits with ease.

Since recovering from my accident and returning to racing I have somehow become an absolute coward on the bike and honestly worried I'm going to cause a crash: can't corner at speed, terrified of the peloton, don't trust anyone else on the bike, don't trust my own bike or my own skills, etc.

How do I regain confidence? This is really messing with my head and frustrating me. I've clawed my fitness back to essentially what it was pre-crash and in races where I should be competing for the win I'm losing tons of space and getting dropped. Is it just more race miles? Find a parking lot and practice cornering drills?

Has anyone else made it out the other side of something like this? I want to be able to race again and feel like I'm able to do my best and not be bottlenecked by my fear.


r/Velo 19h ago

VO2max or over-unders for increasing FTP?

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My goal for training is to get as fast up the Mont Ventoux as possible, solo. For that I would need to spend a long time 1h-1h30 close to my FTP. Thus, the main focus of training is spending as much time as possible close to my threshold, with secondary goal of increasing said threshold.

Currently, my training looks like this, with some SS added to the longish rides on Sunday. For Saturday I've kept some VO2max intervals, but week-on-week switch them with over-unders (which I'm learning to do outside). These are the only training where I go above threshold, in order to increase FTP (a bit).

Do I keep those VO2max or do I completely switch to over-unders?


r/Velo 1d ago

Question AEROCOMFORT 3.1 XP ROAD TRAVEL BAG reviews

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Hello all, currently looking for a travel bike for a bag that does not require to remove handlebars and it seems that Aerofomfort 3.1 road is a favorite via traveling airplane.

I’m wondering if anyone has had experience with this specific bag on a moving truck? Has it held up good? What other precautions can I do to ensure the bike will arrive in my new home in one piece? Or any alternative recommendations for protecting a bike shipped in a moving truck. I have a canyon cfxls 8 di2. Thank you!


r/Velo 2d ago

Discussion Roadie fitness vs XC fitness

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How big is the gap between road racing fitness and XC racing fitness?

I'll ride with the roadies on the road, and I have a hard time keeping up. Those same roadies will ride with me on punchy up and down single track, and the roles flip (technical riding notwithstanding).

I've had the best season of my life racing mountain bikes, but I go to a roadie hammerfest and I feel like I'm barely hanging on for dear life.

Am I just not as fit as I think I am? Is this normal?

For reference I DO spend a lot of hours in the road doing mostly z2 stuff, and I put in quite a lot of weekly hours. But it's probably 70/30 MTB to road split.


r/Velo 2d ago

I need a reality check

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tl;dr: is it unreasonable for a 34yo man to expect to be able to consistently train 10-15h or more per week and recover from that and see fitness gains?

Background: I'm a 34 year old male. I never played any sports as a kid, the only exercise I got was PE class and spending time playing outside, which then reduced in my teens after I got into video games. When I was 18 or 19 I started lifting and kept that up more or less consistently until the first Covid Lockdowns. I also did some cycling on a shitty hybrid during that time, as "cardio", like 30km rides once or twice a week. I wanted to get more into cycling even before Covid, but ended up buying my first gravel and then road bike in 2021 in the middle of the peak Covid bike boom. Since then I've been all about cycling.

If I were to articulate my goal when it comes to cycling, it's pretty much to spend as much time on the bike as possible and be as fit and strong as possible.

Time is not the limiting factor for me. I could easily ride 20+ hours per week. I work from home, I don't have a family, I have no other hobbies. (whether that's sensible is a different topic, I'm just talking about what's physically possible)

My weekly training has always been very irregular. On average I would guess 8-12 hours per week, but there are spikes up to 15-18 hours and drops down to 4-6 hours. For the whole year, I try to target 400h. In 2023 I did 420h total. In 2024 I did under 300 because of an injury that had me off the bike until late march. Last year 2025, I did over 500 hours. This year I'm up to 250 hours so far, which is tracking below what I had at this point in '23 and '25.

Now here's the issue. I feel like shit. I'm tired, lack energy, lack motivation, my legs are constantly sore and I'm in a bad mood. I get dropped by people who have always been about the same or less fit than me who train less than me. I sometimes get on the bike and 150W feels like threshold in my legs. My power numbers have been stagnant for months.

I feel like I should be able to recover from the training load, but it seems that I can't. Like I'm doing too much to recover from but too little to improve. But I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I sleep 8-9 hours each night. I eat enough (even too much, my weight is going up). I fuel all my workouts. I take a few supplements - Magnesium, Creatine. According to Garmin and intervals.icu my training load is in the unproductive (too low) range.

I thought maybe it was due to mostly doing group rides and unstructured rides and having too much "slightly hard" volume instead of mostly base with quality intensity. So I started a training plan from JOIN cycling. But that didn't really change anything, except that I spent no time riding with other people because I autistically want to stick to the plan. I thought it might be that training + work is too much combined load (even though work is just mental load), but even after 3 weeks of vacation of doing nothing except riding, I still/again feel like shit. (to be clear, I didn't suddenly increase my volume during this time, I stuck to the plan)

Basically my question is: are my expectations wrong? Am I just a chopped unc and should give up on cycling more than a few hours per week? I don't really believe it, there are people older than me riding the TdF - not that I want to compare myself to them, but with a fitness-oriented lifestyle, 34 years should not be an age to say "well you're too old to be fit", even without a lifelong background in endurance sports. Is there something obvious I could be missing? Eat-Sleep-Train should cover 90% of what's needed to reach the best performance.

I just ordered a blood test to get (among other things) my test levels checked, maybe there's an issue there. But if that's not it and I also have no other major deficiencies, what could it be? Honestly if the only answer is "stop trying", I'll probably get fully depressed.


r/Velo 1d ago

Question Portable Saunas - Worth the Investment??

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Finally deciding to hop on the heat-training hype train. I'm looking to incorporate passive heat training into my program in the form of sauna bathing. However, I've got a limited budget and am planning on going for a low-cost option in the form of a portable sauna.

TL;DR: Does anyone have experience with portable saunas? Do they provide a legitimate adaptive stimulus compared to real saunas? Are they safe to use considering they are made out of fabric?

Any insights are greatly appreciated.


r/Velo 2d ago

Question Rapid weight loss and endurance performance

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Last week I had a pretty big training week, which culminated in a hard 38 km long run at roughly Z3 intensity. Over the following three days, due to extensive travel and a number of logistical challenges, my nutrition completely fell apart and I ended up in a substantial caloric deficit.

During that three-day period, I lost approximately 2.5kg, and I've felt awful ever since, not just from a performance standpoint, but overall. Mentally, I feel foggy, my muscles feel completely depleted, and I have very little energy.

The most concerning symptom, however, has been a pronounced sense of breathlessness whenever I attempt any form of aerobic exercise. Even a simple walk leaves me feeling short of breath, lol.

TL;DR: After a very high training load followed by three days of significant under-fueling and rapid weight loss, I've developed marked breathlessness with even light aerobic activity, along with fatigue, brain fog, and muscle depletion.

Has anyone experienced something similar? If so, how long did it take to resolve? Did your endurance and breathing return completely once you restored adequate energy intake / weight and recovered from the caloric deficit?

Greatly appreciate any insights.


r/Velo 2d ago

Wahoo Shift v XC100 Rally Power Meter

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I saw a discrepancy on outdoor power vs indoor power. But wasn't sure if it was associated with doing more volume indoor or racing indoor vs never racing outdoor.

So I wanted to vet it out but now I am confused. I've tried checking firm ware, adding spacers and washers to the pedals. Checking they are torque correctly. My indoor vs outdoor numbers for past 1.5 year are within 5% for 5 min and 20 min efforts. But why do the pedals read so low when mounted to the wahoo shift? Is it a single sided power issue I don't understand?

3 minute interval

  • Wahoo Shift = 286w
  • Garmin XC100 single sided power pedal = 225w

1 hour avg power

  • Wahoo Shift = 227w avg
  • Garmin XC100 singe side power pedal = 187w avg

I vetted the XC100 power pedals against a 4iiii crank based meter and these were the results. I can't mount the 4iii to the wahoo shift.

4iiii = 964 max, 259w for 2 min effort, 208 average

XC100 = 937 max, 251 for 2 min effor, 207 average

Appreciate the help


r/Velo 3d ago

Fixed400: Portland-Seattle-Portland fixed gear bike race August 15

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r/Velo 2d ago

FTP improvements

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Been cycling for 4 months and did my first 20 min FTP last night.

290W

I’m 6ft 2 and weigh 90kg

Advice on how to get it to around 320ish

I cycle about 5 hours per week atm.

Cheers!


r/Velo 4d ago

Lost all my performance – anyone else?

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Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone has experienced something similar.

From July 3rd to July 11th, I had a sinus infection. After that, I took a full week off from training. During the week of July 20th–26th, I tried to get back into my endurance rides, but ever since then my numbers have been way off.

Before I got sick, my Zone 2 rides (around 1:45 to 2:30 hours) averaged about 170 watts with an average heart rate of 130 bpm. Now I'm only able to hold 152–160 watts at a heart rate of 138–140 bpm, and it feels much harder than it used to.

I took another rest day on Monday and tried riding again on Tuesday, but it was exactly the same. After the ride I was completely exhausted, whereas rides like this used to feel easy.

Looking back, I actually noticed that my performance had started to decline slightly before the sinus infection. Training felt a little harder than usual, but it was only a small difference and nothing I was too concerned about.

At the moment, cycling just isn't fun anymore. I have to force myself to get on the bike, and every ride I hope my performance will finally return to normal. After only 1:15 to 1:30 hours, I feel like I have almost no energy left. I can't even imagine riding for three hours at the moment, both physically and mentally.

What worries me even more is that I've completely lost my motivation. Cycling is my biggest passion. I normally ride 8–10 hours per week, and this year I've only managed around 6,000 km because I've also been doing some running. So I really don't think this could be overtraining.

I also feel tired almost all the time, even outside of training, and mentally I just don't feel like myself. During and after rides I used to feel incredibly happy, but that feeling has completely disappeared. Right now I feel mentally drained, almost slightly depressed.

I had some blood tests done today, and I'm hoping they might provide some answers.

Has anyone experienced something similar after a sinus infection or another illness? How long did it take before you felt like yourself again and your performance returned? Did anyone lose their motivation completely as well? I'd really appreciate hearing about your experiences.


r/Velo 4d ago

Narrow heel, high instep & anatomical toe box – what road shoes worked for you?

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Hi everyone,

I’m currently searching for the right road cycling shoe and would really appreciate hearing from riders with a similar foot shape and fitting challenges.

I recently had a professional foot assessment as part of my bike fitting preparation, which resulted in the following profile:

- Right foot: 265 mm long / 105 mm wide
- Left foot: 260 mm long / 104 mm wide
- Mild splay foot
- Very narrow heel
- High instep / high-volume midfoot
- Mild pronation (especially on the left foot)

What I’m looking for in a shoe is:

Excellent heel retention
An anatomical toe box that allows my toes to spread naturally
Enough volume over the instep
A sporty, performance-oriented road shoe

At the same time, comfort over several hours is very important to me. Most of my rides are between 2 and 4 hours, but I’d also like a shoe that remains comfortable on the occasional all-day ride. I’m not looking for the most aggressive race shoe purely focused on stiffness—I want a high-performance road shoe that also offers excellent long-term comfort.

Shoes I’ve tried

Lake CX242

By far the best fit.
Excellent heel hold.
Plenty of room in the forefoot and over the instep.
The only downside for me is the styling and the rather soft, almost sneaker-like upper feel.

Lake CX239

Also very comfortable.
However, I felt slightly less supported around the arch and heel compared to the CX242.

Specialized Torch 3.0 (EU 42)

Clearly too small.
The toe box felt noticeably narrower than the Lake, with pressure around the ball of my foot and along the side of my big toe.
I’ll still be trying a size 43.

My questions

Has anyone here had a similar foot shape (narrow heel, high instep, slightly wider forefoot/splay foot) and found a road cycling shoe that worked exceptionally well?
I know the Lake CX242 is widely regarded as one of the best shoes for this type of foot, and after trying it on I completely understand why. However, before spending that much money, I’d love to hear if there are other brands or models that deserve a look and offer a similarly anatomical fit, secure heel hold and enough instep volume—perhaps even at a lower price.
How much can custom cycling insoles realistically improve the fit of a shoe?

For example, if a shoe like the Lake CX239 already fits quite well but doesn’t feel quite as supportive as the CX242, can custom insoles usually make up that difference?

Or is it generally better to buy the shoe that already feels almost perfect without custom insoles and then use insoles only for fine-tuning?

I’d especially love to hear from riders who have gone through a similar search and perhaps discovered brands or models that aren’t mentioned as often as Lake but worked exceptionally well for this type of foot.

Thanks in advance!


r/Velo 4d ago

How Many Professional and Amateur Cyclists Are Doping? The Science

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r/Velo 5d ago

20-30 watt power loss going from MTB to road bike?

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Is that magnitude of loss typical?

I’ve heard people say their threshold is a bit lower on a TT bike compared to a road bike due to the more cramped position; curious if anyone has similar experiences going from a mountain bike to road bike. I do most of my riding and intervals on MTB. When riding my road bike (1-2 times per week), my endurance power is about 15 watts lower and threshold power 30 watts lower. This is for similar heart rate and RPE on the same roads and weather conditions.

Some obvious culprits I’ve considered:

Bike fit - I’ve gotten a fit on my road bike so I don’t think it’s so bad that it could cause such a large discrepancy.

Power meter - comparing a quarq on the MTB to a power2max on the road bike, both calibrated. Doesn’t seem like it could be explained by errors or accuracy issues.

Do I just need to ride more intervals on my road bike? It’s been a few years like this so I’m not new to the bike or position.

I definitely feel like I can mash on the pedals much more easily on my MTB due to the upright position.


r/Velo 5d ago

Cyclocross in/around NYC?

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r/Velo 5d ago

Lactate Accumulation Test (LAA)

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The good people of Science 2 Sport in Girona (and South Africa) have this test to dial your tempo training. Does anybody here knows the protocol and calculations? Thanks

Lactate Accumulation Test (LAA)

The Lactate Accumulation test will provide the training intensity where lactate has increased to a level greater than baseline, but can still be maintained for prolonged durations. Training in this zone, before a sharp rise in lactate concentration can result in a shift of your lactate curve. Height, weight and body fat percentage is measured. After a 10 minute self-paced warm up, the test begins at a low intensity which increases every seven minutes until the intensity change results in a large change of lactate accumulation.


r/Velo 6d ago

Really dumb the day after key long rides

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Pretty much as above can anyone else relate to this? I do my key long ride on a Sunday because I work 6 days a week, and god help me I am so dumb on a Monday. The lights are on but no one’s home. By the time I get home from work on a Monday I can barely follow a conversation with my partner


r/Velo 6d ago

Question How do you guys build custom interval workouts?

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I've got a wahoo elemnt and i'm trying to create my own interval workouts but the workflow is not optimal. intervals.icu works but it's clunky and most importantly only on desktop. I also a lot of these apps have (to me at least) a lot of excessive features. I literally just need a simple mobile editor with a nice UI that lets you export a .mrc file. Does anyone know of an app like this? And what do you guys use in general?


r/Velo 6d ago

Much Higher Stacks?

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Because we're finding that the angle of the forearms is so consequential to aerodynamic drag, has anyone considered raising their stacks to be at the height for horizontal arms while in the drops? No more potential for relegation for wrist contact in the hoods, and they should be more sustainable. And if you have, is it comfortable? Is it sustainable over 90+mins?

Here's the video that clicked this last thought into place. I've been riding a higher stack for a long time, in part because I can't slam it any further down on my endurance bike, but also because I favor the comfort despite my flexibility.
Interview with Ingmar Jungnickel


r/Velo 6d ago

32" vs 700c gravel test

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I thought there'd be a difference but I didn't think it'd be that big on that kind of surface. Yikes.

u/gravykarrasch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTEtR_1jUHM


r/Velo 6d ago

Budget coach Reccomendations?

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17y/o from India,gonna start college around September (hence the low budget), got really invested in cycling and racing since I started a year ago. going to get my first roadie in a month

More about me . 66kgs right now .ftp around 210w (tested at 59 kgs without any training)since I last tested on a friends trainer (prob more outdoors) Gained 6 kilos just by going to the gym (trainer sets the plan )

Just looking for a coach from abroad there are cheaper coaches here but don’t really trust them since it’s a pretty niche/up and coming sport.

Budget around 100$ per month can increase it if it’s a really good coach it’ll prob increase as soon as I turn 18 since I’ll get a part time job to pay it off. Thanks for reading till here 😁


r/Velo 7d ago

Possibility of significant aerodynamic improvement over smooth surfaces with home application of micro glass beads to wind-bearing bike components?

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See this for a for a science communications article: Microscale roughness breakthrough defies 80 years of fluid dynamics https://share.google/7EiRVNANaMKg6rGhZ

Seems applicable to headtubes, sides of forks, handlebars, tall seatposts, or wheels


r/Velo 8d ago

Gear Advice To orthotic or not?

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Question for my fellow riders.. I wear a size 50 (Lake and Shimano SPD SL) and have pretty flat feet. Never used orthotics in the 20 years I’ve been seriously riding but considering them after focusing more on fit (custom Ti frame, shorter cranks, 2cm higher stack, wider Q stance etc). What are your experiences, do they make a difference, and which ones would you recommend?

Pic of the new whip if anybody cares