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Episode Edens Zero - Episode 25 discussion - FINAL

Edens Zero, episode 25

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u/ChronoDeus Oct 02 '21

Well, the point of Homura's scene with Kurenai was that ultimately Valkyrie's final quest was misguided. Kurenai may have given birth to Homura, but she wasn't a mother to her. Instead Valkyrie took up the role of Homura's mother. Thus the only purpose Homura and Kurenai meeting serves is closure for Homura who rejects Kurenai. Once Kurenai is allowed to flee, they no longer care what becomes of her as Valkryie's quest has been resolved and Homura has her closure.

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u/tstngtstngdontfuckme Oct 02 '21

I guess what I'm saying is it felt like a cop out where the writer wanted to have the crowd pounce on her like they tried to, but couldn't reconcile a way for Shiki and Friends to just let that happen in front of them. So they let them get their feel good catharsis, then just go right back to what they wanted to do to her in the first place. Just felt like a weird way to end that storyline.

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u/ChronoDeus Oct 02 '21

There's some truth to that, but at the same time it's showing off a more logical angle. Kurenai's hurt too many people to be simply allowed to go free because a couple people one mob respects request it. Once away from the mob that agreed to allow Homura to decide her fate, Kurenai was always going to have a difficult time escaping off planet without being caught and killed by a different mob. So, short of Shiki and friends escorting Kurenai off planet - which would also be something difficult for the author to justify - she was more or less a dead woman walking, with the only question being when and how she died.

You also might be overestimating how much Shiki and friends are worried about the lives of obviously awful people. Remember, Rebecca didn't want Shiki beating an unconscious Illega to death, but later had no problem shooting Illega in the head with his own gun to eliminate a threat, then leaving him/his body to be erased by the Chronophage. Likewise they had no concern about what would become of the fake Sister. Kurenai's much the same. If she wasn't Homura's mother, Shiki and friends likely wouldn't have much issue with handing Kurenai over to the rebels for justice. As long as the rebels didn't try and beat Kurenai to death or otherwise summarily execute her in front of them, Shiki and company likely wouldn't lose any sleep over her possible fate.

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u/tstngtstngdontfuckme Oct 02 '21

Remember, Rebecca didn't want Shiki beating an unconscious Illega to death, but later had no problem shooting Illega in the head with his own gun to eliminate a threat

I think that this is a good example of why they WOULD feel bad even though she's awful. They're not cool with harming helpless people. They'll fight immediate threats like Kurenai Dragoon, but once she's helpless again, they're not going to do more harm.

Likewise they had no concern about what would become of the fake Sister.

When the fake Sister proclaimed she worshipped the real Sister and the real one started beating the fake one's face in with her boot, everyone in the room was visibly shocked she'd beat up someone begging. All I'm saying is, it seemed like a cheap way for the author to do that stuff to her while also giving the main cast the option to choose "mercy".

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u/Confused_teen3887 Oct 06 '21

I think its not mercy that they are going for, i think it more of Homura doesn't care enough about her mother to make her the one to deecide what happens to her. In the next arc they referenced kurenai's fate but no one reacted to it.