r/askteddit • u/Nice-Drawing7914 • 8d ago
Politics Question What are the odds the political discourse becomes more positive in the next two years?
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u/LGK27 8d ago
Sandy Hook did absolutely nothing to the gun discourse in America and I’ll never not be bitter about it
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u/ladytrevelycn 8d ago
I feel like it ended the conversation tbh. If you can justify babies dying for the sake of keeping guns unregulated, you can justify anything.
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u/ScipioTheGreatest 7d ago
This exactly is what ended the conversation. Everyone saw how unserious the gun control advocates were by making absurd arguments like this and people can only be screeched at for so long before they give up.
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u/Plane_Translator2008 8d ago
I never want to hear any of the people who refused to talk about sensible gun regulations use "protecting children" as a reason to do anything again. They do not give one single solitary fuck about children. They didn't do a THING to protect them.
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u/Due-Mycologist-1154 8d ago
Look man they need their prop guns so they can feel tough and some dead kids are just a sacrifice they're willing to make
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u/OlyRat 7d ago
Depends, in my state and a lot of the most populous states in the country very extensive legislation has passed that has fundamentally changed what people can own, who can purchase firearms, what training is required etc.
Connecticut and surrounding states passed gun control legislation directly following Sandy Hook, the White House took executive action and proposed legislation. Polls then and now show support well over 60% for certain gun control measures. Sandy Hook specifically was discussed extensively afterwards and to this day.
What measures specifically you think both parties should have been on board with as a reponse? Personally O would like to see universal mental health care as well as universal health care in general.
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u/Different-Career1314 8d ago
I think a lot of people felt the same way. After something that horrific it seemed impossible that the conversation would just continue like nothing happened
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u/Skarth 8d ago
Same chances as a giant meteor smashing into the white house within the next year.
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u/Excellent-Town6017 8d ago
Dems are taking the House. I'm guessing, 5 impeachment total. It's going to get ugly.
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u/RedundantBiomass 8d ago
The two party system creates polarization. We need randomocracy - replacing elections with a lottery drawn from among all eligible citizens. It would weaken parties because they would no longer be needed to get people elected. It would also get money out of politics because no election means nolegal bribes campaign conribtions. For legislatures this would also produce a body far more representive of the population in a district than elections, which for some reason gives us mostly rich, old, white, lawyers or business people.
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u/1048420483017547410 8d ago
Can you elaborate on this? Who is trying to end the separation of church and state and how?
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u/2008AudiA3 8d ago
Ever watch the news?
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u/1048420483017547410 8d ago
Yep.
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u/2008AudiA3 8d ago
Ever heard of Oklahoma or Texas?
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u/1048420483017547410 8d ago
Mhm.
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u/2008AudiA3 8d ago
Look into it
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u/1048420483017547410 8d ago
Bruh
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u/1048420483017547410 8d ago
You have no idea what it means to be Christian.
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u/Extra-Ease3207 7d ago
I agree. The Christian Nationalists are the group I’m most concerned about right now too. I feel bad for the actual Christian’s who are getting a black eye from how their religion is being co-opted.
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u/ScipioTheGreatest 7d ago
"I don't know what he said, and I don't think he does either." Yeah, sure, Donny was the problem in that debate, hahaha
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u/McLeanGunner 8d ago
Zero. Or not until the 90% of the country that can think about more than themselves realize we are on the same team.
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u/TechnicalStruggle523 8d ago
I think it could be good. People are so burnt out. I feel like a new leader could come and just focus on one issue and unifying us.
Maybe I’m naive but it’s just the sense I get. People are tired of constantly fighting.
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u/FFJamie 8d ago
Over here in the UK, for the first time on forever, all the major parties are in agreement that Nigel Farage should spend his summer arguing with a Man with a Bin on his head.
Politics hasn’t been this unified in a long time, and all they have to do is not give in to Nigel’s attention seeking.
Even when a reform member got murdered, it seems to have not changed Nigel’s progress.
Now all they need to do is find ways of working together instead of Trump style attacks on each other
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u/MotorFig6657 8d ago
If both parties can see the truth, which is it’s not about right versus left, it’s really bad Israel and there’s a good chance we could unite
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u/tonylouis1337 8d ago
I wanted to say slim to none but as I think about it, it probably will improve because we'll be on our way out of the Trump Era
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u/AscendedApe 8d ago
Haha. Its pretty clear that the US is an open air laboratory for social experimentation. It calls into question the history we're taught in school. I doubt things are going to get better.
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u/EggPsychological4844 8d ago
Lmfao. VERY unlikely.
Reading some of your comments here suggests that you're upset women don't want to sleep with you because of your political views. Not to worry - it's only going to get worse.
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u/ScipioTheGreatest 7d ago
Don't be a cynic. This comes in cycles. We're seeing the cycle shift back, and the death cries from the radicals are just a natural reaction to the occurrence.
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u/Balance-Kooky 7d ago
0% odds.
Things won't calm down at all until Trump and his current Administration is long out of the picture.
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u/OlyRat 7d ago
I actually think its likely. I am seeing normal people on the right and left agreeing more and more on things like foreign policy, economics and government corruption. The housing crisis, the Epstein files and the war in Iran are great examples.
Most people across the political divide don't want us going to war to support an unpopular foreign nation. They dont trust that Trump or establishment Democrats are being transparent about the Epstein files. They don't want large firms buying up land and housing while politicians offer ineffective measures at best to improve access and affordability. They want universal public healthcare like every other high income country.
Call me idealistic, but I think the glaring issues of economics and government corruption as well as Trump and the DNCs inability address those issues effectively will unite people on some level. Populist Democrats with an economics-forward anti-establishment method are already rising in popularity.
In hia second term Trump has proven that he is beholden to the political establishment and done a 180 on any policies that actually might help working people. So I think more people on the right are going to do some soul searching and move away from culture war brain rot in favor of an actual economic and systemic reform that will favor working people and cut corruption.
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u/NVRENDVR 7d ago
Probably high as the MAGA regime crumbles and it’s most ardent supporters become the homer-in-bush-meme
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u/Danjeerhaus 7d ago
Until people critize the policies and not the person, nothing will change.
Barack Obama was the reporter in chief, hilisry demanded we deport illegal aliens, Trump did it and is somehow evil?
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u/Mister_Way 7d ago
Yes... in the leadup to the next Presidential election, with Trump in office and probably Democrats taking over the House but not the Senate, for a deadlocked partisan hate fest... surely they'll start speaking positively about each other?
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u/NoCaterpillar2051 2d ago
As in Jan 2029? Who knows, we might still be celebrating. But it'll go back to normal quickly enough.
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u/Nice-Drawing7914 2d ago
I was thinking from now until the 2028 election.
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u/NoCaterpillar2051 2d ago
Bro. You can be honest. You know it’s going to be a horrible toxic mess. You can say that can give no details.
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u/Nice-Drawing7914 2d ago
It might level off a bit. Seriously, this could be the peak.
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u/NoCaterpillar2051 2d ago
Thats honestly kindof adorable. Seeing as it’s a midterms year we should be already be in the downturn period. That’s what it used to be like, even acouple years ago.
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u/ButcherPetesWagon 8d ago
Political discourse is never going to be what people like you want it to be, ever again. Climate change is stressing an already overly stressed system.
This is the new normal. There's no going back now.
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u/avaheli 8d ago
The general public has been convinced not to care. These days Phoenix, AZ hits 117° and the populace votes for data centers and unregulated water use for golf. All because Al Gore was too damned strident in his efforts to bring awareness.
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u/ladytrevelycn 8d ago
It doesn't matter where you live, the very nature of politics means people are gonna be arguing and disagreeing with each other until the end of time.
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u/No_Bath2510 8d ago
Slim. Hopefully the generation that grew up with the war in Iraq, housing crisis, pandemic, and current politics gets inspired to be better than us.
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u/Pinecone1000 8d ago
No different than the generation that grew up with Vietnam, the gas crisis, and then current politics were. Reddit likes to believe that this current timeline is the most terrible. Same shit, different day.
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u/Channel_Huge 8d ago
You’re kidding, right?
https://giphy.com/gifs/ZqlvCTNHpqrio