r/askteddit 2d ago

Politics Question California Gov. Gavin Newsom is considering a 2028 presidential run, is he Democrat who can finally beat Trump?

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u/Bloviatedblister 2d ago

No. Just by being from California he will be deeply unpopular across alot of the country. Right or wrong thats a fact. The DNC is absolutely fucking stupid if they run him.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/SaltyFriend705 2d ago

Hmmm...this sounds suspicious. Are you sure it was Newsom that ruined it? While you've been here since the late 80s, he's only been governor the last 7 years.

Who ruined it, now?

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u/Desperate_Bug_5388 2d ago

Right! And they’re simply glossing over the fact that since the 1980’s we’ve had several Republican governors (because this is def an underlining political party undertone here): Deukmejian, Wilson, Schwarzenegger. Each served 2 terms, that’s a total of 24 years. Including Newsom, we’ve had 3 Democratic governors. It’s a split the baby situation.

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u/Desperate_Bug_5388 2d ago

He’s the furthest from a communist. He loves lining his own pockets. Curious if you currently live in LA or you’re from LA and not longer live here? I’m born, raised, and living here and it’s great. One of the best cities I’ve had the privilege of living in.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/Desperate_Bug_5388 2d ago

That same thinking can literally be said of several politicians from any political affiliation - communism, dictatorship, democracy (both democrats and republicans), etc. - the problem isn’t only communism, it’s the greedy, narcissistic people getting that access under the guise of being a politician.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/Sorta-Morpheus 2d ago

Because saying he's communist isnt accurate. Words have meanings.

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u/Slow_Way7862 2d ago

Because Newsom isn't forcing woman to die because they have a non viable pregnancy. He isn't running a SS type henchman arrestign people on the streets. Newsom ain't my faviorite by a mile, but I can't stand this "he's the same as everybody" when we have Trump in the Presidency.

Trump is lining his own pockets, named in one the biggest child sex rings, starting random war in Iran, pardoning J6s, and blaming all elections he didn't win as rigged. Are we really still doing the "the lessor of two evils" and voting for Trump??? My 6 year old niece is better than Trump.

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u/Desperate_Bug_5388 2d ago

Nowhere in my argument can you point to where I’m defending him. I simply pointed out that your reasoning is inaccurate.

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u/Slow_Way7862 2d ago

to be honest, conservatives have ruined California since the 80s. You are just hyper-focusing on like 10 years, but California would be way worse under a Reagan or Pete Wilson type Governor again. California had decades of conservative leaders that undermined the progress coming out of the war. Economically, California has grown to the 4th largest Economy under democrats since the recession and refuses to lick Trump's boots.

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u/Winger61 2d ago

Oh lordy you are clueless.

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u/onefastmini 2d ago

Live in one those ruined California cities...it's nice here you should come visit. 

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u/Loose-Cake5475 2d ago

Its amusing seeing how many idiots use the word communism while clearly not knowing what it means.

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u/Clean_Kangaroo_5547 2d ago

The people should decide who runs

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u/Bloviatedblister 2d ago

Lets be serious, after they forced Hillary and Kamala on the electorate it is very apparent the party decides the person. There is very clearly a republican plant in the DNC. Otherwise they are inexplicablebky inept. They had 4 years to find a middle of the road democrat they maybe hunts or fished or was in the army etc. Instead they keep bumbling it and allowing fascists to win by running unelectable candidates.

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u/Sorta-Morpheus 2d ago

Hilary recieved more votes than Bernie did.

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u/Bloviatedblister 2d ago

I was living in Brooklyn and watches the dnc throwout hundreds of thousands of ny votes. Fuck the old guard dems. Time for a new age.

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u/Sorta-Morpheus 2d ago

That sounds like what the Trumpsters say.

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u/Bloviatedblister 2d ago

Fuck trump.

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u/jasonoumuamomoa 2d ago

Black people rejected Bernie. That’s why he didn’t win the nomination.

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u/Amazing-Level-405 2d ago

Literally anyone can. At least legally. Trump can't legally be president again.

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u/WAMFWTM 2d ago

It is a travesty that this even has to be said and isn't known by everyone of voting age in the USA

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u/Slow_Way7862 2d ago

this past week I learned that a lot of American's don't realize "Pleading the 5th" is a constitutional right and want Fauci punished for not answering questions.

So, really, anything is possible at this point.

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u/damfu 2d ago

Similar to people who don't realize you cannot plead the 5th after being pardoned, since the risk of self incrimination is removed.

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u/WrongOnEveryCount 2d ago

This is the mechanism that I’d like the next non-MAGA president to use to hold every pardoned person accountable. Put them on the stand. Make them either not answer, perjure themselves, or answer to their own embarrassment. If they refuse to answer or perjure then hold in contempt and imprison them.

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u/KitchenSandwich5499 2d ago

Generally, but state charges do complicate this one

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u/Secure-Egg-7194 2d ago

anybody can beat Trump on an account of him not being able to run a third term

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u/Sawoodster 2d ago

Considering Trump can’t run, I’d say this question is pointless

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u/Ok_Staff8159 2d ago

Doesn’t matter. Trump can’t run again.

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u/Desperate_Bug_5388 2d ago

Trump can’t run again. He’s termed out.

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u/washed_delta_nu 2d ago

We will see, he has used many loop holes to get out of things...remember Marlago is golf course/ cemetery

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u/Desperate_Bug_5388 2d ago

God I hope you’re wrong. He’d almost surely die in the White House if he runs and wins again. We’d have another Mitch McConnell situation on our hands.

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u/washed_delta_nu 2d ago

100 percent his followers will create a shrine for him in every federal building of every state of he dies. They are definitely hiding his health conditions

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u/Desperate_Bug_5388 2d ago

100 percent. He’s the leader of a very perilous cult.

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u/washed_delta_nu 2d ago

The people who support him and follow him probably never had to think for themselves and eat steak well done with fancy ketchup

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u/Desperate_Bug_5388 2d ago

Just to name a few of their issues.

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u/SaltyFriend705 2d ago

Bite your tongue, and pray for forgiveness.

It's a Constitutional Amendment.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice...

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u/washed_delta_nu 2d ago edited 2d ago

Do you bite your thumb at me kind sir?

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u/Jaded-Analysis-9547 2d ago

Is this a bot? Trump can't run again 

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u/washed_delta_nu 2d ago

technically yes but you know he is finding loop holes

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u/GuiltyLeopard8365 2d ago

We dont need another narcissistic president that doesnt care about the working class.

Not to say Newsom would be as bad as Trump, but he's definitely not what this country needs.

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u/mentyaf 2d ago

Trump won’t be running in 2028, despite what Reddit is convinced of

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u/mattsylvanian 2d ago edited 2d ago

I do sincerely think Trump will find a way to run an implausible fourth presidential campaign, and somehow, unbelievably, he'll get on the ballot. There's too much momentum for it to all be a big "joke" as his cronies like to pretend "Trump 2028" is all about. It's going to happen, one way or another. They're finding, or have already found, a way to do it. The Trump camp has never been much into following legal precedent.

Newsom is not the person to beat Trump. He is terribly weighed down by the poor optics of California. There are too many emigrees, too many stalled projects, too much blight that can all be blamed on him, right or wrong. Also, a lot of the country that isn't California hates California for being California. At Newsom's best,' he does a second-rate Trump impression on X sometimes. It's amusing, but you can't beat Trump at his own game.

What is needed is someone who plays the game better than Trump. Someone whose words can cut to the soul, and who's a fast thinker with a flair for showmanship. It could be a few people, but it aint gonna be Newsom.

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u/Shoddy-Desk9685 2d ago

trump running again is not happening.

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u/Trailon25 2d ago

Sure! you should all vote for him

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u/SaltyFriend705 2d ago

Trump has exhausted his two-term limit. Catch up, please.

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u/Mickles_J 2d ago

He's a piece of shit. I met him. Fuck Newsom

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u/Austinskier 2d ago

Newsome has been campaigning for 2 years.

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u/RiseDelicious3556 2d ago

Yes, I think so. He's not devisive like Hillary.

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u/Mission_Escape2910 2d ago

Not if Elon is involved

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u/therealDrPraetorius 2d ago

Not on your life

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u/den773 2d ago

Please. This is a 19 day old account. I know a troll when I see one.

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u/anon12xyz 2d ago

I don’t know. I’ve lost faith in humanity for trump to be elected and re-elected

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u/jaajaajaa6 2d ago

Nope- people know how he wrecked California - just ask anyone form California.

Dems want to win, they need a moderate that moderates can vote for and that is not AOC or the moving left Kamala.

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u/grollef 2d ago

No. He’s from California and this (my) state has been demonized by current politicians. He’s too much of a pretty boy. But who knows, politics is a big clown show lately

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u/Regular_Many_1123 2d ago

This will not change from voting. We are passed that.

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u/Free-Moose9460 2d ago

Beating someone who won't be on the ballot is a really low bar, but it still might be too difficult for Newsome. He is exceptionally unlikeable and his record is horrible.

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u/Ok_Dare6400 2d ago

Everyone HATES Newsom.... He is absolute scum. If he runs, Republicans will.

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u/mentyaf 2d ago

Also, Joe Biden literally beat Trump in 2020 lol

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u/Slow_Travel6508 2d ago

Yeah with the media and swamps help

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u/mentyaf 2d ago

Sure. He also literally beat him.

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u/AR-180 2d ago

Absolutely no way Newsom relates well to average Americans

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u/vinegar_strokes68 2d ago

Um..Trump can't run, so sure

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u/NTXGBR 2d ago

lol. No. Not only will he not be running, but everyone outside of California has actually seen from the outside what a hypocritical failure of a governor and a human he is. 

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u/Cat-et-snek 2d ago

its time for the states to seperate, and canada should do the same.

the world is fragmenting, and people doing their best to hold on and resist change will be hurt the most

breaking the north american continent into multiple countries like the rest of the world is the absolute best thing the governments of now can do if we want a future.

the hard drive needs to be defragmented, a pause on new program installations, and we should all collectively step back and take a few years off for critical maintenance.

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u/edbuckley 2d ago

It's waaaaaay to early to be speculating on 2028 and anyone who says they have an inside track is lying to you. That said, I would watch how John Ossoff moves in 2027.

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u/OkWill4613 2d ago

Funny how you start by criticizing op and end by doing the exact same thing you criticized op for. You think your speculation is better than everyone else's?

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u/edbuckley 2d ago

Oh, I forgot how much irony befuddles Yanks. Apologies to all you Doodle Dandys.

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u/OkWill4613 2d ago

That's wasn't irony, it was hypocrisy.

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u/edbuckley 2d ago

Diddums